<p>so i maybe attend a csu school next fall 2014 and then i want to transfer in spring 2015 to cc to take my requirement to transfer to UC !! so it's a good idea or better attend one year CSU as a freshman and at my sophomore year transfer to cc and then go to UC ?? or even go to cc now but i will almost stay 3 year and half to transfer to UC because my English is bad!!</p>
<p>This sounds complicated. Why not go to a CC for all the years prior to transfer? It’s cheaper and less nerve racking than hopping from a csu to a cc. </p>
<p>Also, you mentioned your English is bad. Do you want to chance flunking out of a CSU because of that? Flunking at a CC is far less worse in my eyes. </p>
<p>If you do go to a CSU first and then a CC, you’ll probably lose some classes for credit so I’d consult a community college AND csu counselor to ensure all your classes transfer over. Also, you’ll have to be on the look out for taking the same class twice. For example, if you take an anthro class at a csu and another at a cc, you may end up taking the same class without even knowing about it, which is why I’m recommending you contact counselors at both institutions. </p>
<p>Sounds nerve racking, right? Go to a CC for all the years. You’ll save both money and your sanity.</p>
<p>i know but my english is second language so i will not take any science class until i pass it almost i will spend 2 semester taking English second language and math only !! then my third semester i will began taking science class like biology, chemistry and physics so i will almost spend three years or 3 years and half to transfer !! but if i go to CSU i will began to take science class even my english isn’t my first language !!</p>
<p>I understand. You’ll be able to take a wide variety of classes at a CSU, which would save you time, but at a CC, you’d be forced to take ESL and math classes only.</p>
<p>I don’t know who’s telling you what classes you can and can’t take. Community colleges are open enrollment, which means you can take any class you want except classes that have prepreqs (Math and English for example), so surely you can take science, humanities, and social science courses at a CC as well? </p>
<p>Also, if you don’t think your English isn’t that good, wouldn’t it be wise to take only English and Math classes? If you took science and all those other classes, do you think you’ll be able to communicate effectively to succeed? Many classes require college level writing, so perhaps going to a CC and sticking with just Math and English would be in your best interest? </p>
<p>i meet with a counselor to make my education plan and she told me that i consider an ESL student so i can’ take any science class until i finish my ESL program after two semesters and then started taking English first language and chemistry biology physique but CSU doesn’t have this system !!! so i’m confused where to go and i want to transfer to UC so much</p>
<p>There’s a reason why this is the case. The counselor, and whoever created this rule, believes ESL students don’t have what it takes to succeed in other courses. This isn’t anything personal even though it sounds like it. </p>
<p>I can understand why you’d want to go around this arbitrary rule and go to a CSU without hindrance, but ask yourself if you believe you can take CSU level courses with your English skills.</p>
<p>I’ve seen ESL students struggle in my GE courses. They couldn’t understand the professor and struggled with any writing assignments, which unfortunately, is a key part of a lot of classes in college.</p>
<p>Don’t let what I have said deter you from doing what you want to do. If you want to go to a CSU, then go for it! They have excellent resources to help you succeed such as the writing centers, math centers, etc. </p>
<p>Also remember that once you attend a 4 year university (CSU), you will be subject to the new unit cap rules. If you go to a CCC only and then transfer you have a lot more leeway with units, but if you go over the unit cap and have attended both a CCC and a 4 year, you will not be allowed to transfer to a UC. </p>
<p>can you explain more about the unit cap rules ??</p>