<p>Our DD attended CTY for seven summers, from non-residential, to baby CTY, to a full four years of "big" CTY and loved just about every minute of it. To the extent CTY represents a Hopkins approach to learning, I think JHU would be a fine match. Would her time at CTY also help her with admissions (note, she has about 2200 SATs on first taking, and a 3.3/3.4 UW GPA (but she attends one of the most competitive schools in the nation, and her GPA has trended up) ?</p>
<p>As a former CTY kid at Hopkins, I must say that Hopkins undergrad is a completely different experience from CTY, and not necessarily a good match for most CTYers. Your daughter should visit and see if she likes it here. I’ve enjoyed Hopkins, but much as I loved CTY I wasn’t really looking for a CTY replica for college. Probably the closest match to CTY in a college would be a smallish, quirky, intellectual LAC along the lines of Carleton or Wesleyan.</p>
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<p>This question has been asked many many times and the simple answer is: No. It will not help because it’s a Hopkins program. It does however show that one is productive during the summer. Admissions Daniel (JHU’s Admission’s Counselors) said:
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<p>Also read this thread:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/johns-hopkins-university/738734-does-attending-summer-program-have-advantage-admissions.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/johns-hopkins-university/738734-does-attending-summer-program-have-advantage-admissions.html</a></p>
<p>To clarify </p>
<p>I didnt expect that its automatically “went to CTY, add points” Its more that my daughter was (and is) really passionate about CTY. And I would think at JHU they would be more familiar with the program and what it means, then elsewhere. </p>
<p>If she had taken summer school it would have been easier to fit in more AP classes. Instead she went to CTY, where she took essentially college level courses. Shouldn’t that count for something?</p>
<p>Ljbw</p>
<p>Problem with LAC’s is she is interested in engineering. Hopkins undergrad is NOT “smallish, quirky, and intellectual”???</p>
<p>Ah, I see. Hopkins probably is one of the more CTYish places with top-notch engineering. </p>
<p>I didn’t mean to say Hopkins wasn’t smallish, quirky, and intellectual - I just meant that the closest match to CTY would be a LAC, more specifically a quirky/intellectual one. There are many LACs that are not particularly quirky or intellectual. Such LACs wouldn’t be very CTYish at all.</p>
<p>I’d definitely call Hopkins intellectual. Most of the students here are really passionate about their field of study and genuinely enjoy learning - although there are a few narrow-minded, med school or bust types. The jury is out on small/quirky though, especially in relation to the small size/quirkiness of CTY. I think most people would consider it a medium-sized school. Intro classes, especially in the sciences, tend to be large lectures with weekly section/lab meetings, which is pretty different from the CTY class experience. There’s also not really much in the way of big shared events/unusual traditions/distinct campus culture that you’d find at CTY because the student body is less cohesive. There are interesting/quirky people, but there are also some kids who just study/complain all the time, and some fratty types who are kind of boring/obnoxious in my opinion. If you learn to avoid these people (or if you actually enjoy the Greek scene and go Greek) you can have a pretty fulfilling social life though.</p>
<p>In a lot of ways though I think it’s been an improvement over CTY for me. There are a ton of opportunities to explore different academic areas, because JHU is strong in just about everything and has minimal distribution requirements. Large intro lectures don’t bother me, and in the humanities at least there are tons of opportunities for smaller, seminar-type classes. It’s also much more diverse than CTY (a plus for me at least), and in contrast to the confined social scene at any camp it’s nice to have the freedom to explore Baltimore, which is truly among the best places to be a college student. You just won’t have the same kind of unique, close-knit culture as you would at CTY, and might find at a LAC.</p>
<p>Don’t take my word for it though - you should definitely have your daughter visit and see if she likes it.</p>
<p>I thought CTY was high school level course. My friend (who went there since middle school) who went took classes and said they are high school level (and he is the top student in my grade).</p>
<p>cdz, it depends on what classes you take. IIRC, there were some science courses that were the equivalent of a year of high school bio/physics/chemistry compressed into three weeks. Others were more similar to a college seminar-style class. They weren’t really designed to be college classes for high schoolers, just interesting classes geared towards intelligent 13-16-year-olds. For me at least it was more intellectually rigorous than any classes I took in high school. I don’t think CTY generally awards college credit though, like you’d find in an actual pre-college program.</p>
<p>Read this:
[Hopkins</a> Forums -> Summer Programs](<a href=“Leak nudes - The Home Of The Sexiest Thots, Nipple Slips, Bikini Pictures, Nude Streamers From Patreon, Onlyfans And Much More!”>Leak nudes - The Home Of The Sexiest Thots, Nipple Slips, Bikini Pictures, Nude Streamers From Patreon, Onlyfans And Much More!)</p>
<p>from that discussion</p>
<p>“If you do a program through Hopkins, or another school, or a Governor’s Program, or Community College courses,”</p>
<p>Do you seriously think of community college courses as equivalent to CTY? I know someone who teaches CC English here, and from what she says, those kids would NOT have made it through freshman English at my kid’s HS. </p>
<p>Now DD wanted to go to CTY every year cause she loved it - the learning, the kids, and the traditions.</p>
<p>But me, her dad, who was footing the bill, was always hoping it would help with college admissions. Naturally.</p>
<p>LJ - I realize JHU undergrad is bigger than a small LAC. But as I see you realize, there aren’t many small LACs that dont foreclose the engineering option (we HAVE looked at RPI, and will look at Lafayette) </p>
<p>Me and her mom used to live in Balt, and know the campus. We intend to take her for a visit, at least if she has a shot.</p>
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<p>It depends on the strength and the rigor of the program. Yes, I do know some community college courses that are as strong if not stronger than CTY programs. I also know of some that are weaker. The admissions review will always be based on the rigor of a program in addition to the fact that the student pursued some form of academic enrichment.</p>
<p>I know you cant “chance” people, but if you had a kid who had a 3.3/3.4 UW GPA at an EXTREMELY competitive high school (i can pvt you with it), SAT around 2200, lots CTY time, decent EC’s, challenging courses (BC calc junior year, going on to post AP math and several APs senior year) lots of creativity and passion, including passion for learning, and they were trying to decide on a couple of stretch schools beyond the UR/RPI/Lehigh/VTech/Lafayette that were the core match schools, and was thinking of Cornell, Penn, JHU, CMU, and say, Chicago as stretches, which stretch schools would you prioritize?</p>
<p>Sorry I can’t help you … I do not answer questions about a student’s chances nor do I comment about other schools. A conversation with your child’s guidance counselor is what I suggest.</p>
<p>This is a very competitive public school. Between lack of time, and lack of experience, the GC isn’t all that great a resource.</p>
<p>Okee dokee.</p>
<p>Forget chances. Forget admissions. Would a youngster with a 3.3/3.4 GPA from a school like TJ in Virginia, (assuming took the schedule I discussed in my post above) who then attended Hopkins (assuming they got based on the wisdom of the holistic gods) A. Find JHU academics a breeze? B. Find it invigoratingly challenging ? C. Find it a drowning or near drowning experience? Assume typical extracurriculars, no more than normal work study commitments, modest social life, ADD more or less under control. </p>
<p>Like that q better? :)</p>
<p>Brooklyn, you should come over to the Parents Forum. I got a lot of help there when my D was looking for safeties, good fits, etc. The parents are great at suggesting options for students and there are many who have children who have attended CTY. Come on over.</p>
<p>I think I know what school you’re talking about, and while your D wouldn’t be a shoe-in at a school like JHU, I think she’d have a good chance. However, the name of the HS won’t get her in alone - the low (only by elite college standards) GPA would have to be a result of taking a very challenging courseload. Extracurriculars would have to be very good. If she’s the kind of student who loves CTY (I personally went for five years, and I, too, am about to be an engineer), I think she would find JHU invigorating and challenging. Definitely go on a visit if you can - that’s what really helped me make up my mind about JHU.</p>
<p>Sorry but you have not hooked me into answering your question … take *sabaray’s *advice and use the Parents Forum. Every student is different, and just by knowing a student’s GPA and the school they attend does not enable me to answer such questions. In all my years of experience I have learned best to stay away from such discussions, because there are tons of factors that go into determining college success. Good luck.</p>