Current Stern Sophomore: Ask Me

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<p>Well, It seems to me the special initiative’s “mock interviews, recruiter in residence and corporate info seminars” would have information to help you know how interviewers are to be approached and what (well-informed) topics to address.</p>

<p>The only issue is that this intensive preparatory initiative is only made available to URM. Maybe there is something equivalent for the non-URM students. These activities seem like they provide good insider info with “campus recruiting reps, many NYU alums”) so you can be better informed and knowledgeable about how to present yourself and what topics to target during an interview (to show your more 'sophisticated insider knowledge than the average interviewee).</p>

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<p>@uncertified
You’re welcome, wow, good on you for plowing through 500 posts, haha.</p>

<p>Teaching here is mixed, some courses will be straight lecture + homework + exam, others have absolutely zero exams and are all group work. Some are a mix of the two. i.e. your freshman Micro course will have homework every week, two quizzes, a midterm, and a final. Nothing else. OrgComm will have three group assignments that are together about 85% of your grade along with a few very brief written prompts, MOA is all group work, there’s a lot of variety.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t go to UT because I’m fairly confident their claim is identical to ours. The undergrad program is ‘based’ off the MBA one but a bit different in nature. Besides, going to UT means you’ll place very well for Houston or energy banking/trading, but NYC isn’t as solid an option. Banks will recruit there for New York, but it’s focused on the South.</p>

<p>There are group projects here, both in classes you wouldn’t expect it in (Financial Accounting, randomly) and in ones where that’s all that happens (OrgComm, MOA, etc.). Presentations are all OrgComm is, you’ll have them in a lot of upper-level classes too. There are a lot of kids doing case competitions too, we get emails all the time about this team or that who won such and such a case comp and is going to nationals or out of the country to compete at the finals. You can walk into the Office of Undergrad Advising and see all the awards and trophies and plaques too.</p>

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<p>@fireman
Well, there’s two answers to your question. One is easy in that it’s very clear and straightforward, that’s the quantitative component. The other is more challenging, because it’s completely subjective or qualitative.</p>

<p>When you’re at a target, you enjoy the privilege of OCR, or On-Campus Recruiting. Banks come to you on a specific date and interview a selected number of applicants all on the same day. There’s typically a phone screen in advance to narrow down the field, then first rounds, and then second rounds. Those are all normally on different dates but never more than 7-10 days apart. You participate in this via resume submissions, where you log into your OCS (Office of Career Services) website and dump a resume and cover letter. If they like you, you get the phone screen. Get past that, you get the first round, etc. etc.</p>

<p>The screening mechanisms are pretty simple. GPA, leadership positions (extracurriculars), and any networking you’ve done. That last bit is the subjective part, because it’s what makes you stand out. There’s no recipe for this. If you’re a smart, intelligent person who’s easy enough to talk with, getting in front of recruiters or professionals in all the networking events will only help you because when they see your name at the top of your resume in all the submissions, they associate a face and a good vibe with the name, whereas everyone else is just a blank.</p>

<p>Banks’ recruiting process is too structured for you to be able to just get in front of a recruiter whenever you want. They’re on campus at specific dates and times. There’s no specific steps, you either prepare by knowing your stuff cold or you try to wing it. What you should do when facing them one-on-one is prove that you’re a human being. They know you want a job, everyone there does. Everyone. Prove that you’re not a twerp, be likable, it’s called ‘fit’ for a reason. If they do ask you industry-related questions, be prepared to give an informed answer.</p>

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<p>Here’s a PM I got from someone with a question I feel others might want to see the answer too, so I’ll post both here.

Setting myself up for success doesn’t mean I bury my nose researching stocks, not at all. It means I’m working smarter, not necessarily harder. I look around for the opportunities I know are at Stern and make sure I’m capitalizing on them.</p>

<p>Extracurriculars? Yes, leadership positions in both social and professional groups that indicate a breadth of interest and would point someone out as a well-rounded person. Alumni event at 8pm when I have a homework set due at 9am that I don’t even know how to start? I’m going to it, because the soft skills you’ll develop + the networking opportunities outweigh something that’s 1-5% of my grade. Corporate info session at 6pm that starts during my shift at a work-study position? I’m getting someone to cover me, wearing a suit from noon so I’m ready, and going to it, even though I didn’t sleep at all last night.</p>

<p>All of that is true and how I lived my life last semester. No hypotheticals, just a literal example. No one expects you to be some sort of legend who’s researching securities, building the most comprehensive portfolio, and executing market transactions all while studying full-time and maybe even working in school. The chances of you doing that well enough to stand out meaningfully is slim to none, so again, work smarter rather than harder.</p>

<p>Being shy can make it harder, but going to clubs with no real purpose won’t get you far. Try going up to one of the student leaders after one of the events during common hour, introduce yourself, and just say you’re a freshman really interested in learning as much as you can about x_topic and you’d love to help out however you can now so you can maybe hold a role in the future. If you have no idea what people were talking about, say so. Raise your hand in the middle if it’s the type of meeting you can interrupt. If not, literally write them down as you hear them and go up and ask the speakers afterward. If it’s a student, they’ll probably give an answer, even if they’re in a rush. If it’s a professional they brought in specially, I guarantee they’ll be impressed someone’s (a) brave and (b) determined enough to come up and ask for more information. That’s how you succeed, by being determined, humble, and thirsty. Be scrappy. That’s the best advice I could give anyone.</p>

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<p>How difficult is it to transfer to Stern if you are already an NYU student? What are they looking for, etc.</p>

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<p>Internal transfers are a different ballgame. Have a high GPA, be able to articulate an interest in a quantitative education, and write good essays. I have no experience with it personally so that’s about as much as I can safely say.</p>

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<p>hellodocks
Can you explain what made you choose Florence and what all factors should be considered before making a choice?
Thanks!! My son is doing much better now…</p>

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<p>I’m going to be a Stern prospective freshmen next year and because of my APs, I will be allowed to place out of:
18 credits in natural sciences
20 credits in electives</p>

<p>(I looked up how many credits I get on the stern pdf/site)</p>

<p>I want to do a double major in Stern over the next 4 years and do a decent amount of course work in comp sci (maybe a minor) out of self interest. How should I decide to use my APs for credits since 32 credits is the max. Is there a reason I shouldn’t use up all of my credits?</p>

<p>Also, do you know if I can place out of writing the essay if I have a 750+ on the writing section of the SAT?
Thanks</p>

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<p>SAT I writing with a score of 750 or higher places you into Commerce and Culture, which is a Stern WTE class, but only if space is available (i.e.: register ASAP and have sent that SAT writing test to NYU).</p>

<p>NYU will allow you to place in more advanced classes due to AP scores, but will not provide you with academic credit unless you took that at an University with the class not counting for your high school diploma (i.e.: you still have to pay to NYU the 128 credits that Stern requires).</p>

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<p>I’m confused as to what exactly the LSP program is. I know you study abroad for a year, and eventually you can join CAS right? People keep saying that including the LSP program the admission rates are higher, does that mean it is quite easy to get into the LSP program? Also is it just for people who didn’t quite make the cut to be accepted to CAS but they’ll give them a shot anyway?</p>

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<p>Hey Im really glad your doing this lol. I am a direct admit student to Stern and I just got back from visiting NYU yesterday. I have a couple of questions/concerns:</p>

<p>1) This is the first time I’m moving alway from home (maybe like most students) but i’ve never imagined coming to a HUGE city such as NYC. I come from Michigan so New York for me is quite the distance lol. How hard was it for you to adjust to college life and the big city in general?</p>

<p>2) How is the work load at Stern as a freshman? I hope is manageable and leaves time for other extra curricular activites</p>

<p>3) Living in new york city is REALLLLY expensive. What dorms do you prefer for first year Stern students</p>

<p>4) Since NYU doesnt really have a compus…is it difficult to meet new people from the school and how are the parties :P</p>

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<p>Hellodocks,</p>

<p>Would there be any point in taking Calc II or Calc III? Would it affect one’s ability to take more advanced finance classes in upperclassmen years? Or is it just a Stern MAP requirement that Sternies have to fulfill?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>Hi hellodcks</p>

<p>It seems there is June orientation and placement exams as well as course registration takes place then. I was wondering what happens to those who cannot attend orientation earlier than August 29- 1Sep, do they lose out on their pick of the classes that they would like?</p>

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<p>My son attended the June orientation last year. It was only about an introduction to Stern, and creating a video to pump the students that did not attend. There were only about 50 kids out of the 525 in his class. No early registration or anything was missed. All of the placement exams are available during the welcome week. If Stern does not have your AP scores, you will register for the lower courses, but during welcome week (if you pass the placement test or provide the AP scores), an advisor might be able to bump you into a more advanced class.</p>

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<p>Thanks a ton for this info Abraxas63</p>

<p>Also I have the following query which i posted on the other thread of moving -in and welcome week, I am posting it here since hellodocks and others who read his informative posts will be able to give their views too.</p>

<p>Since my daughter is looking out for one and was wondering if one should look for somebody with the same progam or a different one.</p>

<p>With a different program roommate for eg. CAS and Stern, might be scenario can be</p>

<p>-study patterns clash

  • the exam timing
    -outings as COHORTs
    -outside the class academics related activities
  • study abroad esp. BPE,Stern</p>

<p>I am sure there might a whole lot of other things that she might not be able to think of till she gets started with her classes. </p>

<p>Rooming with somebody from another school is great and that is the idea of going to such a big school. It is wonderful opportunity to have cultural as well as academic interaction different from you own. But the clash in terms of free time vs.group assignments and test days are issues that are bound to crop up. So D is just looking for some more experiences that can be shared on this forum. </p>

<p>Would appreciate any input.</p>

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<p>@niceparent
I chose it because I wanted a break from all things finance, it was as simple as that. Recruiting was exhausting, in the fall I had 5 classes and 4 were Stern. I just wanted to get as far away from that as I could and experience something completely new, so going to one of the study abroad sites popular or common with Stern kids made no sense to me. That meant London, Prague, and Shanghai were out. I wanted to do either Paris or Florence, and I used an elective on Italian my freshman year and find French incredibly challenging, so it was here or nothing for me.</p>

<p>For someone else making the choice, I think some important factors to consider would be:

  • cost of living in that country
  • availability of courses toward your major/minor requirements
  • fluency in language/ease of picking it up (i.e. Czech is hard to learn)</p>

<p>@2015
You won’t be able to place out of all that. As the other guy said, APs at Stern only allow you to move past the entry-level courses and place into higher-level classes, they don’t count toward credit requirements for your degree. You’ll still have to reach the 128-credit requirement for graduation.</p>

<p>As a side note, you can’t minor in comp sci (we call it Information Systems here). Unlike a lot of schools, our majors are different from our minors. We have something like 9-12 majors and only 3-5 minors.<a href=“http://www.stern.nyu.edu/UC/CurrentStudents/Academics/MajorsAndMinors/index.htm[/url]”>http://www.stern.nyu.edu/UC/CurrentStudents/Academics/MajorsAndMinors/index.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>With your 750, you can place out of WTE and into Commerce and Culture. It’s a Stern writing course that follows the WTE model of three cycles with multiple revisions, but the topics are centered around issues and themes of modern business rather than the hypersubjective, liberal works that WTE has. You’ll get the same grounding in college writing, but it won’t be as miserable a course.</p>

<p>@giants
LSP does not mean you automatically study abroad for a year. Some LSP kids spend the first two years in New York and place into the school they were deferred from. Others get sent abroad for their first year, do a year in New York, and then place. It isn’t only for CAS; CAS, Tisch, Steinhardt, and Gallatin all defer to LSP. Stern does not, you either get in or are rejected.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t say it’s easier to get into LSP per se, but there’s a huge stigma on campus where the LSP kids are the ‘dumb kids’ because they couldn’t get into ‘real NYU.’ It’s kinda funny to me and I don’t think much of it, but a lot of kids outside LSP feel a real need to abuse the LSP kids and a lot of LSP kids do nothing to help their cause because they respond just as immaturely. I feel like many of them have a lot of hidden resentment because they were deferred, so it’s a pretty sensitive subject for some students.</p>

<p>Getting deferred doesn’t mean you can’t make the grade, but if NYU feels like there’s one or more aspects of your application that give them concern about your ability to perform here, they’ll defer you. Typically it’s something like your writing ability (essays), GPA, SAT scores, or even counselor recs. Be weak in one or two of those and strong in the others and you may get LSP’d. Basically, NYU wants your money for two years, so they’ll still accept you without letting you into the program you really want. Much of the stigma comes because other kids feel like the LSP stats and policy are holding back NYU’s prestige, ranking, and appeal.</p>

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<p>@Letsgo

  1. Answered this numerous times in great detail in earlier pages.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Yep. If you manage your time effectively, there’s plenty of time to get involved in extracurricular societies, explore the city, and pursue your own interests outside of school.</p></li>
<li><p>I’m not sure how those two sentences correlate, but our dorms don’t vary that much in cost for freshmen. I lived in Goddard and absolutely loved it. Founders is always popular, as is Hayden. Third North probably comes after that, then Brittany. Rubin and Weinstein should be on the bottom of your list.</p></li>
<li><p>No, it isn’t. It can be if you’re a recluse, but there’s always people doing something, so between your cohort, your friends from your floor and building, and the kids you meet in classes, everyone’s getting to know people and friend-circles aren’t really set so it’s not hard to do things with new people.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>@nimrodius
No, Calc I is the only math pre-req for any class in Stern that I know of. Calc II or III would look good on a resume, but there’s no point in doing it unless you (a) want a more quantitatively rigorous experience early-on, (b) want a quanty minor, or (c) have a specific class you want to take as an elective that requires it. Every single kid at NYU has to take calculus though, so it’s a university-wide requirement.</p>

<p>@anial
Registration takes place online, so you don’t miss out by skipping the June orientation. It’s called ‘optional’ for a reason. If you go, you get to meet some of the student leaders, people in your cohort, and staff at the university. You’ll get some advice on course selection, but it’s nothing that isn’t posted online or generally available information.</p>

<p>Like Abraxas said, it’s typically pretty small. Two years ago when I went, it was about 90 kids.</p>

<p>For your daughter, a roommate in another school shouldn’t be too much of an issue. She’ll probably do most of her work in Stern anyway, we have the nicest buildings, there’s multiple computer labs, student lounges, quiet study rooms, group rooms, and you can use empty classrooms when classes have closed for the day. Most kids don’t like to do their work in their room anyway. I always joke that I shouldn’t have to pay $15,000 to NYU for housing when I spend so little time in my room, I basically live in Stern and the office and only use my room to shower and sleep a few hours a night.</p>

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<p>Hey thanks a ton hellodocks</p>

<p>That is the perspective i was looking for. As other parents had pointed out the benefits of the cultural and EC aspect, whom i totally agree with, you have been able to address the academic part which was the topic of debate at home. </p>

<p>So yup thank you for that insight, makes the decision much more justified and sensible to room with the person you share you habits as well as interests with and academics get taken care of anyway.</p>

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<p>Committed last night!</p>

<p>Are you allowed to import your NYU email to Gmail?</p>

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<p>lullinatalk, Congrats!</p>

<p>You went through a tough process to get to this point! Are your parents OK with your decision? Did your mom help to persuade your dad? I think you made a good decision, especially if you have any interest in business.</p>

<p>The Stern program as hellodocks has described it sounds so challenging and stimulating. I am sure you will see much growth and development for the money and time spent!
So happy for you. :)</p>