<p>Hey Docks, </p>
<p>I’m a freshman. Just wondering what your thoughts are on how junior year recruiting went. Was it much more hectic than the sophomore year experience? Were there any surprises? And when do offers typically get made? Thanks</p>
<p>Hi! I am a junior and considering business school for college. Specifically, I’m thinking about NYU Stern. I was wondering what are some good extracurricular to pursue this summer. I’m thinking about interning for a day trader. Any other ideas?</p>
<p>Does anyone know what it’s like being a Language and Mind major at NYU?</p>
<p>Hey bro. I’m just wonder what the student body make-up is like at Stern. What % Asian, White, Gay, etc. It doesn’t have to be exact, like just an estimate from what you’ve seen so far.</p>
<p>Hey hellodocks, thanks so much for doing this thread and keeping it up! I’ve been accepted to NYU’s Stern business school (no scholarship), International Business comajor. I’ve also been accepted to USC with a merit scholarship, International Relations Global Business major. I’m having so much trouble deciding between the two! They’re both great schools in great cities with strong international relations/business programs. As far as you know, how is the international studies programs at Stern? Anything to really make it stand out?</p>
<p>Also: is Stern really as demanding, stressful, and hard as I’ve heard it is? I’m not afraid of working hard, but how’s the environment at Stern between students? i.e., any sabotaging or grade-grubbing that happens at some other schools?</p>
<p>@tmdehf
You cannot transfer internally to Stern after transferring from another university to NYU.</p>
<p>@I’m not sure I understand your question exactly. I don’t think you need to overstress this to the extent you are. You have at least four semesters before you need to declare a major. Your first three will be full of purely MAP and Stern core requirements. Take the required introductory marketing course in your third semester (earliest you can) and see how you like it. If yes, proceed. If no, abort. Much simpler than fretting now.</p>
<p>@Raviel
ISP is a single 4-credit course. It builds off our Economics of Global Business course. I’m not familiar with Baruch’s programs, but I’m simply going to say that a top-5 undergrad b-school is going to give better opportunities than Baruch hands down. The rankings are there for a reason. I don’t study international business so I can’t help you out much in terms of specific classes.</p>
<p>@AJB
I can’t stress that point enough; it absolutely dominates your chances in recruiting. BPE seems to me to be the perfect program for the few students who are interested in politics or finding an actual ‘pre-law’ program at NYU. Since there is no official pre-law track at NYU (any undergrad program can be considered ‘pre-law’ here), I feel like BPE is the closest you’ll get. It’s three semesters abroad, vastly different coursework from the normal Stern curriculum, and removes you from the field completely for networking.</p>
<p>You can’t intern during your semesters abroad because you don’t have a work permit in either place, only a student visa. I say it does hurt recruiting.</p>
<p>@jackhammer
There is no sophomore year experience. Sophomores cannot participate in OCR. You only qualify for OCR as a junior or senior. My experience stemmed solely from my personal initiative and the fact that I chose to hustle and get something on my own. Yes, junior year was hectic … I dabbled, but knowing I had a very attractive return offer, didn’t go all out. Offers typically get made between the last week of January and the first week of March; there are guidelines the career center imposes on firms in terms of what deadlines they can force on students.</p>
<p>@nyustern13
Don’t have any experience interning in a relevant field during high school, can’t offer much. If you’re doing something you find more interesting than sitting on your couch playing Xbox, go for it. Otherwise, do whatever you’ll have most fun with.</p>
<p>@Shinee
That’s a really random question to ask in a Stern thread.</p>
<p>@Noldi
Asian is 69% in Stern (counting Indian/etc.). White is approximately 20%, Hispanic is around 7%, and black hovers just over 3%. Diversity is laughable. Gay I don’t know in Stern, but I <strong>heard</strong> it was 31% of all males at NYU but that number seems a little high to me.</p>
<p>@Misteora
Stern is competitive, yes, it’s cutthroat and people won’t always help you. Matter of fact they rarely will.</p>
<p>Stern > USC.</p>
<p>Intl. business isn’t something I study very much, but I will say that NYU offers probably one of the most premier global platforms today. Literally, the opportunities that are available here blow my mind sometimes. There’s more than you could ever hope to take advantage of. World Studies Track (2 semesters abroad), a single semester abroad wherever you feel like going, IBEX if you want it, international volunteering trips, macroecon classes with a travel component, you name it.</p>
<p>I’ve never heard of USC being a big name in international business, but that may be simply because it isn’t my focal area. I am confident Stern is stronger, however, so unless someone can prove me wrong, I’d very confidently recommend it over Marshall.</p>
<p>The game-changer is your financial situation. If you parents are comfortable helping defray the cost of your education with no scholarship at Stern, go for it. If money is a big factor, you need to weigh that in your decision.</p>
<p>How is the networking at Stern? I’m trying to decide between Stern and Cornell AEM.</p>
<p>I know that it is virtually unheard of for undergrads to break into the HF industry, but I would like to get a feel for the buy-side as it appeals more to me than the sell-side. I do realize that I will most likely have to do a two-year stint as an IBD analyst before moving to the buy-side. With that said, are there any HF interning opportunities or would I have to take the traditional method?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, another quick question. I’m taking the AP Calc AB and AP Stat tests in May. Provided I get a 5 (or 4) on both of them, would you recommend I retake Calc I and Statistics my freshman year to boost my GPA with two easy 4.0’s?</p>
<p>hey, hellodocks! thanks for all this info, it’s amazing. I do, however, have a few questions:</p>
<p>i’m currently a junior in a southern california high school. in previous years, my high school wasn’t extremely competitive but we’re definitely moving up in the world. 12-15 students from my school’s 2012 class were accepted into at least one ivy league university. 5 or 6 were accepted into several.</p>
<p>as for me, 2300 sat (800 math, 740 cr, 760 writing)
3.9 unweighted and 4.2 weighted gpa. i have classes left to finish but these two are unlikely to change much.</p>
<p>next year i’m almost positively going to be president or co-president of two clubs and editor in chief of my school newspaper</p>
<p>i have one business internship secured this fall and i’m taking a program over the summer where i study field research/marketing under a ucsd professor (the Academic Connections program). I also have a opportunity to do another economics internship over the summer but that’s up in the air right now because of a different circumstance</p>
<p>what do you think my chances are at stern? (be as conservative as possible, I can take it). I know there are students that have better stats than me but if my supplement prompt allows it i really want to focus on how deeply involved i am in my community. i know a lot of community service prompts are b.s.-ed but I’m actually genuinely passionate about that stuff.</p>
<p>also, my grammar is better than it is in this post, I promise. It’s late. Not to sound cocky but i’m one of the strongest writers (essay, creative, journalism, etc.) in my grade and probably even school. i blog, write movie reviews, and lately i’ve been looking into screenwriting for fun.</p>
<p>also i plan on applying ed, although i probably won’t get financial aid</p>
<p>ALSO:</p>
<p>What’s the grading curve like? (I’m sure someone touched upon this previously, but I after reading the first 15 pages I just skipped to the end)</p>
<p>I’m naturally ambitious and planning to try my best in whatever classes I end up having to take, but i also like having some time to watch some movies, hit the gym, and do some writing. </p>
<p>therefore i’m wondering if i can get a good gpa if i do maybe 2-3 hours of studying a day. i know you mentioned there are hell weeks (i’m used to these because of my school newspaper commitments).</p>
<p>is this possible or does the curve just filter people like me out of ‘A’ territory? i’ve been getting mixed messages. some people say the top 25% of the class gets an A while others say it’s the top 10%. so if you can clarify based on your experience, that’d be great.</p>
<p>EDIT: i’m also primarily trying to get into stern finance. I know how reputable this program is, so if I specify it in the application (if this is possible), does it hurt my chances? thanks again</p>
<p>@EmWinter
That’s a tough decision because I think the two are comparable in terms of placement, perhaps with the edge even going to Stern because of a) its reputation as a finance factory, and b) the location advantage. That being said, I would be leaning towards Cornell. This is all completely dependent on your personal preferences and what you’re looking for during undergrad, but I consider Cornell a more well-rounded undergraduate experience. Look, you get all your life to live in the city and you’ll probably pursue a career here immediately out of school so it’s not like you’ll miss out on being young in the city. Cornell has a campus (yeah the winters are brutal), but you have Greeklife, grass, scenery, and all the intangibles that will make you look back fondly on undergrad in distant years to come. In short, it’s that golden ‘campus’ aura, and NYU can’t ever give you that. If you can’t figure it out by now, I hugely regret not putting more effort into my college application process because I feel I could’ve found what was important to me if I’d applied to more than the five schools I did.</p>
<p>NYU will give you the more ‘glamorous’ experience if that’s what you’re looking for, but as a student the harsh reality is that if you don’t have a solid ID and your parents’ money behind you, you aren’t getting in to many places at night nor can you afford to until your later years.</p>
<p>The other huge thing is that the Cornell name, despite other Ivies considering it “lower tier,” is an Ivy school. That in and of itself will be monumental in your career progression: Ivy alumni tend to be fiercely loyal to their alma mater, graduate school admissions (of any kind) view it quite favorably, and it almost puts you in a different social stratum by default, even today.</p>
<p>@bsu
There are off-cycle opportunities, a lot of smaller funds offer positions through the school year. I know quite a few kids who have interned at funds during the semester. Some use it as a tool for banking recruiting, others want to pursue it straight out of school (fewer).</p>
<p>For the classes, skip the 4-credit stats for sure and take only the 2-credit regression component. Calc depends on what you want to study, if you want a math major/minor, take the higher math. If you have zero interest in that and are just fulfilling the math requirement, take Calc I and bust out that 4.0.</p>
<p>@sidp
First of all, chill out.</p>
<p>Your profile is competitive for Stern. I would view Stern as almost a lock for you, you should be applying to Ivies, just make sure your writing doesn’t sound as clunky as it does here.</p>
<p>Grading is competitive. A’s can be top-10% in one class and top-30% in another, there’s no standardization really, it depends on the professor and the department. There are departmental guidelines with some flexibility depending on the prof’s tenure and personality. </p>
<p>Your intended major is irrelevant in the application, I doubt you can specify it and I do not believe it is material in your admission decision.</p>
<p>Thank you very much!</p>
<p>Hey, do you know of any CAS econ kids who have gotten jobs at the top tier BB firms such as goldman or jp morgan, ms, ect. I know you mentioned that you know some cas kids doing well in recruiting, but it was kind of ambigious and was wondering if it was possible to do really well such as the firms I mentioned above; just wondering if its possible. Thanks</p>
<p>I’m a freshman looking at my sophomore fall schedule. I’m going to take FA, EGB, and a non-stern class. I was wondering if you would recommend another stern class (and which one) or a non-stern class?</p>
<p>hey hellodocks
Thank you so much for keeping this thread up and your patience and help!
I read in another post that you had no AP credits but still managed to double major and minor in addition to studying abroad and graduating on time. My question is, while being able to manage all this workload, are you able to get adequate sleep? On average, how many hours a day? And does the sheer amount of work you have end up affecting your GPA? Do you think you could do better if you had the chance to divide up the workload?</p>
<p>Oh, ok thanks! </p>
<p>Did you have trouble getting the classes that are required for your major(s)? I’m not sure about the situation in nyc but from socal where i’m from, this situation is a big cluster across the UC system</p>
<p>First of all, thank you for taking your time to answer all this load of questions. If you don’t mind, I would like to add one more :)</p>
<p>Which program do you think is more worthwhile pursuing if I’m interested in IB, Stern BPE or the regular Business Core(with concentration in finance)?</p>
<p>Also, is BPE easier to get in than the regular Business Core?</p>
<p>BTW, is high school GPA relevant once you get into college? I’m slacking 2nd semester senior year because of senioritis and was wondering if it matters for things such as job recruitment if they’ve ever asked for your GPA or even transfering colleges, or grad school.</p>
<p>^ to add on to that question; is 2nd term high school gpa necessary for applying to scholarships and stuff?</p>
<p>oh and i read in a previous post that you said white were about 20% i think? what is the breakdown of those white in terms of ethnicity (jews, europeans, etc lol)</p>
<p>Since you said that you are black, do you get questions about what it feels like to be one of the only black people in Stern? How well do you “fit in”? And, do people attempt to challenge your intellectual prowess? The lack of African-Americans at NYU doesn’t bother me as most of my friends are white since that is usually who I hang out with because of my AP and honors classes. So for me, the racial transition from high school to college won’t be that big of a culture shock. I am just wondering if you get those random stares of “Whoa! There’s a black guy at Stern!?” because I noticed at Weekend on the Square that there were only about five black kids including me.</p>