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<p>Off hand in my experience, hellodocks’s may vary: I’d say a quarter are Jewish, half are American, 1/8th are Europeans that grew up in the US, and the remainder are internationals.</p>
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<p>Off hand in my experience, hellodocks’s may vary: I’d say a quarter are Jewish, half are American, 1/8th are Europeans that grew up in the US, and the remainder are internationals.</p>
<p>@vigilant
Yes, I have seen CAS graduates at MS, JPM, GS, and CS so far. I’m sure they must be at other banks too, it’s just that you know 5 or 10 kids from Stern at each bank and you meet the odd one out from CAS every know and then. High school GPA is irrelevant once you leave it (unless you intend to transfer as a frosh, in which case it would be marginally considered but your college GPA would far, far outweigh it). If anything, retake the SAT. It can improve your scholarship, and a lot of kids also keep it on their resume when recruiting.</p>
<p>@magic
Take either MO (used to be called MOA) or OrgComm. You need to bang one of those out sophomore fall, especially if you’re studying abroad in the spring. Keep in mind that if you’re going to London or Shanghai, you might be able to take one of those abroad, so take the one that isn’t offered at your site. A 2015 kid was telling me how their class doesn’t have to take all 5 of the core anymore, they can pick which ones to take … that may be a factor as you can ignore the annoying core courses like Operations Management.</p>
<p>@Scarlett
No, I didn’t sleep enough, especially sophomore year. I pulled 4-6 a night and a few more on weekends to catch up typically. I didn’t go out at all really, at least until I went abroad. There was an interesting quote I read awhile ago that said, “No one ever wishes they slept more in college.” I thought that was really true actually … in 10 years you’re going to look back fondly on the nights you went out and raged face after you pulled an allnighter. The next day or two probably sucked but you made memories and that’s what counts.</p>
<p>@sidp
I am not sure what you’re talking about. If you’re asking about course selection, you will not have trouble graduating with your majors. Some classes are only offered in the fall (or others only in the spring) but if you just plan from the start, you can map out how you want to do things. Information Systems is the only major where you’ll have trouble getting every course you want, and that’s only because they’re reshuffling faculty and only ~25% of courses in the department are being taught right now.</p>
<p>@chunws
I don’t think one is easier than the other for admission. Majoring in finance will help you for banking, that simple. Double major in accounting if you really want to be boring. </p>
<p>@Noldi
No idea … ask white people here.</p>
<p>@bsumone
Occasionally get those questions. If it’s a close friend: discuss. If random friend: laugh. If stranger: eyeball.</p>
<p>Honestly, race is too politicized here. Put your head down, do your work, and let your grades/leadership/internships speak for their own merits. It’s only a millstone hanging around your neck if you allow it to be.</p>
<p>842 posts, I finally did it! I kept bookmarking the page I had reached and continued the next day.
Great thread docks, it answered a lot of my questions, but non-surprisingly enough, it produced more!</p>
<p>1) I’m a prospective freshman and to capitalize on this huge expense, I intend to get heavily involved into all sorts of activities and keep my schedule packed,as you have successfully done. I’m currently on the process of choosing dorms. My question to you is, will the extra mandatory activities of Goddard be a fun( and maybe productive) way to spend my time or will it be a burden since my free-time will be limited anyway. Should I instead apply to founders (its new!) and devote my time into something else instead, (more career oriented/socializing/or at least working out)? How much time is needed anyway ?</p>
<p>2) How many months is a summer internship approximately? (1-2?)</p>
<p>3) After reading a lot of stuff about recruiting,including your thread, and with the help of common sense, I’ve adequately understood what combinations of traits, recruiters look into candidates. However, I’m wondering specifically which one of your characteristics helped you successfully receive all those internship offers. As you said, it wasn’t your GPA. Decent networking helped get your name on the desk of all those firms, but what made most of them want you in their company?</p>
<p>4)Is there any course about shipping I could attend? Before I start cold-searching on Stern’s/nyu website I’d like your input if you have heard anything about it</p>
<p>5) Why MacBook pro? I’ve had a pc all my life, I’ll definitely work on Microsoft Office on the laptop I’m planning to get. I like apple products, and investing on something I’ll be using for more than four years is definitely a good investment so briefly, why do you advise a MacBook pro?</p>
<p>6) Do you have some advice on any topic, for an international student ? They have some difficulties on numerous issues (internships for one thing). From your experience of interacting with int students (and their issues), do you have any sort of tip?</p>
<p>These are for now! Sorry for the amount of questions (I have more!). I wanted to read everything on your thread before I asked something and they gathered to be a considerable amount of inquiries! Fortunately no-one has asked anything these days.</p>
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<li><p>Any dorm besides Goddard.</p></li>
<li><p>10 weeks at a bulge bracket. Can be 8, 9, 10, or 11 if at a boutique, investment manager, other firm.</p></li>
<li><p>That’s the definition of an “intangible,” if I knew how to communicate that to you in words more than I have so far, I’d be bottling it and selling it.</p></li>
<li><p>Shipping? What do you mean.</p></li>
<li><p>I feel like I’ve explained this before, and there are enough other websites out there to help you make this decision.</p></li>
<li><p>No.</p></li>
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<p>I’m currently a freshman at Stern, and as much as I respect docks, I’d like to offer some differing opinions.</p>
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<li><p>Goddard is fine. Arguably the nicest rooms. Location is the best…it’s the closest to classes. Nothing beats rolling out of bed 5 minutes before class and actually making it on time…if you’re into making it to class on time. The extra events can be a bother if you save them until the last month, but you only need 10 per semester, so its no prob if you space it out. Can even be advantageous when they let you do things that would have cost you extra otherwise. Example, $5 for all you can eat dimsum in chinatown or free tickets to some shows. Also, it’s probably the worst for parties (make friends in other dorms for that) but it’s really chill because the emphasis on community means it’s the one dorm where you can actually become good friends with the majority of your floormates.</p></li>
<li><p>Usually around 2 months.</p></li>
<li><p>Can’t really help you hear. Leadership is good. Good grades are good. Networking is good. All that standard attributes.</p></li>
<li><p>No idea what this question is.</p></li>
<li><p>Macbook is more reliable. PC is for more technological people…imo. If you game, you’ll obviously want PC. I think the program for Stats (Minitab) run better on PCs too. One other benefit for Macs is that it seems a lot easier to connect to wi-fi on Macs (maybe i’m just doing something wrong on my PC laptop, idk).</p></li>
<li><p>Obviously, it’ll be difficult to get an internship around here if you’re living in a different country. As far as socializing, I have plenty of international friends who are just fine. As long as your English is good, you’ll be fine.</p></li>
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<p>Thank you for both replies</p>
<p>Shipping:the act or business of a person or thing that ships. From Dictionary.com</p>
<p>I mean are there any courses on shipping management,shipping finance etc.
In UK there are degrees entirely on shipping,for instance BSc/MSc on shipping management. </p>
<p>@Generalgao93 About recruiting preferred attributes, yeah good grades,networking and stuff is what recruiters look at,I am aware of that.I was just asking personally which dock’s best quality was.
Your “Goddard reply” was exactly what my question was about! Thank you for your spot-on answer.However, would you prefer Hayden since it is also near? And has a dining room of its own! </p>
<p>@hellodocks about recruiting I was more or less expecting you to say that you give killer interviews. 1)Anyway, you’ve said that you’d probable choose Cornell over Stern because the job prospects are somewhat similar (Cornell=ivy Stern=NYC) but Cornell offers better college life, fin aid etc. On a Brown vs Stern situation would you state the same? 2) So, is there anything that can help you get experience on shipping professions on NYU ?</p>
<p>@Theo24
Don’t be snide, Dooks is trying to answer your questions. I think you proved to yourself that you were not being specific enough when you added the clarifier “I mean are there any courses on shipping management,shipping finance etc. In UK there are degrees entirely on shipping,for instance BSc/MSc on shipping management.”</p>
<p>If you want an answer to a specific question, you need to word it as such, don’t blame others for your failure to communicate as you’re only making that individual less likely to help you.
In answering your question: I have no idea what a shipping magnate would do. That seems like a highly specific field of study that I’m not sure you can get outside of graduate level business/management schools. Should you go to Stern you’re going to notice that the majority of your peers are doing finance or accounting. I doubt that any of the schools you listed have a definite major for shipping. If you want to study shipping, you’re going to have to build your course selection on your own. </p>
<p>Also Brown, Cornell, and Stern are very different universities.
Brown is extremely liberal and offers a very unique college experience in that it is very flexible. People always talk about how Brown students have the option of taking every class pass/fail. That being said, I think Brown has pretty terrible prospects in comparison to Stern and Cornell in terms of finance jobs. Brown is better known for its top-notch humanities/premed/sciences.</p>
<p>NYU offers another unique college experience. You’re in the city and you live and are treated more like an adult. Some kids don’t like that, while others do. Stern is slightly better than the other colleges in terms of fitting in because classes are smaller and there’s a greater sense of exclusivity amongst a university that is placed in a city with absolutely no campus.</p>
<p>Cornell offers a very traditional collegiate experience, complete with a very active Greek life. Though some students complain about its isolation, others see that as a benefit, as they are able to network better with other students. Cornell is heavily dominated by greek life and as a male, it will be difficult for you to party if you aren’t in a fraternity.</p>
<p>NYU and Cornell definitely edge out Brown in terms of the party scene. In terms of the ivies that actually party, it is Penn>Cornell>>>>>>Everyone else>Dartmouth. At NYU if you don’t have a fake, you’re probably not going to party. All of the drinking tends to happen in dorm rooms (boring) or at bars (need a fake). While there are a decent number of club events targeted towards college aged individuals, by and large, they suck. As a guy, you need to pay a cover to get in, and as a girl, you’re going to get fingerblasted by random drunk *******s. </p>
<p>Pick your poison. (Though that is assuming you can afford it, because you’re not going to get any finaid from NYU, while at cornell/brown, you can expect a very generous aid package.</p>
<p><em>Though you win some you lose some in terms of having to pay more for stuff as a guy, I should add that there are significantly more girls than boys, and that if you are socially competent and able to navigate potential notoriety, your loins will never be the same.</em></p>
<p>Hi, I will be starting as a freshman this fall. I posted this on a similar thread, but would appreciate more opinions. I’m an international student, trying to figure out my schedule for next year… It would be much appreciated if you can tell me what you think of my plans in terms of work load and any other advice in terms of scheduling for freshman year. Thanks!</p>
<p>4 credits: Calc II (I took BC junior year…so I might be a little rusty)
4 credits: Microecon (I heard the teacher for the fall semester is great)
4 credits: Texts & Ideas (could you describe the courses a little for me?)
4 credits: Commerce & Culture (in place of WTE / my SAT W is 800)
2 credits: Stats (I’m hoping to pass the placement exam…taking AP Stats right now)</p>
<p>Natural Science requirement is waived with a 4 or 5 on AP Chem right? Thanks for the help!</p>
<p>@MT8989 I never intended to be snide nor blame anyone! And I’m actually surprised how I gave you that impression. I started by thanking my repliers for their time and tried to make as many clarifications I could think of at the moment to help them get a better sense of what I’m asking! Hell, I’m the one asking for advice. It would be, apart from extremely rude, idiotic to blame people who are helping you!</p>
<p>Now back on topic ( and thank you as well for your extensive post).
I understand that not many people from brown want finance jobs. However, for those who do, won’t they receive the same respect when considered for a financial job, as would a Cornell/Stern student would? The opportunities might be less than Stern due to location, but most competitive universities don’t have the advantage of being in the center of NYC anyway.</p>
<p>hi i am wondering if anyone knows the admission the stats for previous year’s stern transfer and the transfer rate?</p>
<p>Thank you for helping</p>
<p>@sjsung</p>
<p>There’s no reason to take Calc II unless you plan on minoring in Math or something. Just take Calc I and breeze through it with an A. That’s what I did freshman year (also took BC in high school) and I barely had to go to most classes. On the other hand, my buddy, who’s better at math than I am, decided to take Calc II and struggled to get a B or B+ (don’t really remember). Nobody (recruiters) is going to know/care that you took Calc I instead of II. </p>
<p>However, if you do plan on double-majoring or minoring in Math, go right ahead.</p>
<p>How competitive is it to receive an internship amongst your classmates (for stern students)? Is it best for an average student to attend a school like Baruch to land an internship, rather than compete with students at Stern?</p>
<p>@danw316 My top 3 prospects right now are accounting, econ, and stats. I definitely don’t intend to major in pure math. So do you think Calc II would be a waste? Should I just not take Calc at all since starting this year BC 4/5 exempts me from the math requirement altogether?</p>
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<p>Hi, I will be starting as a freshman this fall. I posted this on a similar thread, but would appreciate more opinions. I’m an international student, trying to figure out my schedule for next year… It would be much appreciated if you can tell me what you think of my plans in terms of work load and any other advice in terms of scheduling for freshman year. Thanks!</p>
<p>4 credits: Calc II (I took BC junior year…so I might be a little rusty)
4 credits: Microecon (I heard the teacher for the fall semester (Bowmaker) is great)
4 credits: Texts & Ideas (could you describe the courses a little for me?)
4 credits: Commerce & Culture (in place of WTE / my SAT W is 800)
2 credits: Stats (I’m hoping to pass the placement exam…taking AP Stats right now)</p>
<p>Thanks for the help!</p>
<p>Let me clarify my last post. In my mind, there are three types of people who’ve gone through Goddard: the ones who are absolutely gung-ho about all things ResCollege to some extent, the ones who grow to dislike it and don’t go to Broome, and the ones whose eyes are open to its drawbacks but who go to Broome for some specific reason (spacious housing, guaranteed room selection, Soho location, whatever it is).</p>
<p>Goddard is a strange beast. If you’re in it, you’re probably going to love it because you’re a freshman and you don’t know any better. Your eyes are wide and you’re drinking the proverbial Kool-Aid of college because it’s college and it’s all you’ve ever wanted. At some point, disillusionment will set in. </p>
<p>(Trust me, it’s NYU, it happens to everyone at some point. Whether that’s freshman year, the summer after, or even way later as an upperclassman, at some point you will tire of the **** that this school brings and want to transfer, go home, or leave in some fashion.) If that feeling comes during frosh year, you’ll realize that a lot of the people in Goddard are really, really weird. You may not want to hang out with any of them anymore, and you’ll find friends outside the building.</p>
<p>I will say that it is infinitely nicer after the renovations. My frosh year the rooms were just not that nice. The location is a huge plus as well. These are the very widely known advantages of the building. I, as I have done through all 60 pages of this thread so far, attempt to give a very candid depiction of the situation so you, the asker, get more than the informational brochure or tour guide answer. Sorry if mine doesn’t always align with that one.</p>
<p>As for your shipping question, if you’re asking if there are specific classes about it, the answer is no, not at Stern. A school like Gallatin or SCPS might have a class that specific, but Stern doesn’t.</p>
<p>@sjsung
Absolutely agree with danw’s point about math classes. Unless you want to major in math, take Calc I and make your life easier. One thing you’ll learn about college is that it’s not like high school anymore. Pick your battles. You will have infinitely more options to fill your time with, all of which are more entertaining/pleasurable/amusing/meaningful than slogging your way through a harder class. </p>
<p>As always, recognize that these are the insights of a relatively jaded rising senior trying to help people avoid making any of the same mistakes he did. Take them with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>@sjsung,</p>
<p>I just graduated from stern yesterday, and have a bit of advice on your class choices. I agree with the above posters about not taking Calc II as it offers you little advantage. Especially at Stern, you want to be able to build a strong GPA freshman year.</p>
<p>In terms of your questions:
Texts and Ideas- This class is offered in CAS and consists of a lot of reading and about 3 essays. You can get away with not reading depending on your professor. I do recommend Professor Goldwyn if you can, relatively easy, just hope your TA isn’t a *****. </p>
<p>For microecon, Bowmaker is a great choice, he’s very young and classes are interesting.
Otherwise, your schedule seems quite solid. It is not going to be easy, but definitely doable.</p>
<p>@marylou1, are you referring to junior internship, which may turn into a FT offer? or an internship during the summer?</p>
<p>Either way, internships are competitive, but it is dependent on a variety of factors, perhaps more importantly GPA work experience, and networking. I would say that it is very competitive, especially if you are interested in working for banks. But in order for me to give you advice on stern or baruch, i need to know what field are you interested in?</p>
<p>Thank you for the help!</p>
<p>I want to get into Accounting. I was referring to any type of internships, so thanks for answering my question grad052012</p>
<p>@marylou1,</p>
<p>That’s great! I studied accounting in undergrad double majoring in economics. Though it is competitive, I think that accounting internships are very well within your reach as it consists of just behavioral interviews (i.e. talk about a teamwork experience), and nothing technical. As long as you have a decent GPA, it should be fine to get an interview. Also big 4 accounting firms recruit quite heavily at NYU, and I interviewed successfully for 3 out of 4 of them.</p>
<p>With that said, during my internship I met a lot of students from Baruch, Fordham, St.John’s. If you want to study accounting, and money is an issue, I don’t think that being at Baruch is any worse off than NYU, as Baruch is also heavily recruited by Big 4 accounting firms. Sure, you may not have the name of Stern, but frankly in accounting it does not matter. </p>
<p>If being scared of internships is the only thing tipping your decision, don’t worry as you will meet a lot of alumni that can help you prepare for interviews! Stern has really great professors in accounting, and I can say that I honestly learned a lot my time there. The courses are very challenging, but very worth it, at least for me. Feel free to reach out to me if you have anymore questions. It is natural for you to feel this way and I hope I helped you somewhat in reaching your decision!</p>
<p>are those internships generally paid? If so, how much?</p>