<p>So my dad makes 400k as a pilot flying for Qatar Airways.. which is VERY far outside of the US. I live with my mother and we are considered almost poor (30,000 for a family of 5). My dad contributes about 5-10k every year that he sends over from Qatar... which isn't that much given his salary, and therefore I don't want to include him as a contributor. IDOC after filling out CSS profile says that I have to include my noncustodial parent's tax return too. What can I do? He doesn't have a social security number, and if I include him.. I might not get any scholarships because of his salary.. and I won't be able to afford college just on my mother's 30k salary.
Please Help!!!</p>
<p>FAFSA only schools wont require NCP information.
How do you know how much money he earns if you have little contact?
Did you apply for the Gates scholarship?</p>
<p>You have to include his information if you are applying to schools that request the CSS Profile. You don’t have a choice. Lots of students have this problem that their parents are split up, but the CSS Profile colleges (which are most top US colleges) expect you to provide income and asset information from both parents and their current spouses if they have remarried. That is just the way it is. You can write a letter to your colleges explaining the situation, and you can ask your dad to pay more toward your college. Those are pretty much the only options you have.</p>
<p>It really doesn’t matter how FAR out of the I.S. your dad lives. If the school requires non-custodial parent information,my our dad will need to complete the non-custodial parent Profile. Period. That you receive support from him indicates you know his whereabouts, and can contact him. </p>
<p>If the schools require your dad’s information, they will not process your application for need based aid until it is received. Also, keep in mind that the schools calculate what a parent CAN pay, not what they WILL pay.</p>
<p>I hope you have a financial safety school in your application list. If you are a competitive applicant for Rice and MIT (two schools you have mentioned on other threads), you would be a competitive person of some merit awards elsewhere. Hopefully you sought those out when making your lists. </p>
<p>Also, some Profile schools do NOT require the NCP Profile. Are any of those on your application list?</p>
<p>Thank you all for the responses… you’re slowly but surely confirming my worst fears. The basic story is that he is married to another woman and that he sends 5-10k out of guilt or something. All that included our family salary would be 40k, which by Rice’s standards would qualify me for substantial need based aid. Would it change anything though if I said that he will not pay for my college? Or that he has never filed taxes in the United States? I just find it unbearable that my dad whom I almost never have contact with, basically out of my life… to ruin any chance of me going to my top schools known to give generous needbased aid because I will “seem” wealthy with his salary included. :(</p>
<p>By the way my mom and him were never married.</p>
<p>I’m sorry if I misled you… I have had contact with my father before… very little contact but contact. He explained his financial situation to me before as a younger teen. But basically if it comes to him paying for my college… it’ll instead be “tough luck, kid.”</p>
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<p>Keep in mind that your parents are first in line when it comes to paying for your education. The generous need based aid that you are is provided through the generosity of other people’s parents.</p>
<p>As others have stated, you will have an EFC based on what the school believes that your parents can pay based on their income and assets, not what they want to pay.</p>
<p>Your father will most likely have to fill out the non custodial profile where he will have to include his income and assets along with the income and assets of his current wife.</p>
<p>the fact that they were never married does not matter. There is contact because he pays and you know where he is and how to reach him.</p>
<p>the 5-10k that he send in support/guilt $ will have to be included on the FAFSA and the profile</p>
<p>Alright, I suppose there is nothing I can do. Thanks for your well-thought out responses. I’ll have to accept my situation the way it really is and go to public school.</p>
<p>Is your Dad US citizen ? Does he ever worked in US before ? </p>
<p>Dadfor…the citizenship of the father does not matter for financial aid purposes.</p>
<p>(1) You have to be honest.</p>
<p>(2) You can ask the colleges you’re applying to if they’ll waive the requirement that you submit your dad’s financial info. Explain the situation - where he is, when you last saw him, how often you have contact, etc. - and ask if they’ll waive their usual requirement for a noncustodial parent profile. The worst that can happen is that they’ll say no . . . but if even one of them says yes, then you’ve got a chance at a school you can afford. It can’t hurt to ask.</p>
<p>And I’m sure there are people on this forum who’ll say no chance - the dad’s paid support so you’ll never get a waiver. But they’re not the ones making the decision . . . so why not try?</p>
<p>I agree, ask. But be honest that your dad contributes financially to you.</p>
<p>I do think it is ridiculous that he has to be considered in this financial aid thing, but you have to tell the truth, the consequences can be too much if you do not do so.</p>
<p>I like to see how this kid can prove without a reasonable doubt that his biological Father do make 400K.
Colleges might think his Father makes 4000K not 400K, or infact he only make 4K, how he is going to prove that, those countries dont have Tax filling like we have in USA, I live their (Dubai) for 3 Years on an Expat Contract and their is no Money Trail to track… Good luck explaining to FAFSA and CSS the exact money his biological Father makes. If you do put 400K on the application and cant prove it then thats a Big Lie too</p>
<p>^^
The dad is the one who fills out the form, not the student.</p>
<p>There are plenty of ways to track income besides tax forms. </p>
<p>The point, dadfor, you are encouraging dishonesty. And as mom2 points out, the DAD completes,the non-custodial parent form. The student does not complete it, and actually has no access to view it.</p>
<p>^^ The mom can fill out the form too, and put all her income including child support.
I dont believe his Dad will fill out the form the way it sounds from OP posts.
Mom is even lucky she even getting some child support since their is no court Order and the Dad is doing just for the Guilt as mention by OP.</p>
<p>The mom can NOT fill out the non-custodial parent Profile. </p>
<p>Looks to me his Dad will never fill the non-custodial parent Profile since he already told the kid he wont support his college education. So someone has to explain this to CSS or colleges, who else its going to be then mom or student.</p>