<p>Although both are certainly reach schools for me, I would love to hear some pros and cons of both, because I expect to apply ED to one of these schools.</p>
<p>The search feature is your friend. There are countless threads talking about these two schools (along with others). Here’s two of them.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/dartmouth-college/960602-dartmouth-v-cornell.html?highlight=dartmouth+cornell[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/dartmouth-college/960602-dartmouth-v-cornell.html?highlight=dartmouth+cornell</a></p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/dartmouth-college/898372-dartmouth-cornell.html?highlight=dartmouth+cornell[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/dartmouth-college/898372-dartmouth-cornell.html?highlight=dartmouth+cornell</a></p>
<p>ahh my bad man…i apologize</p>
<p>@spunaugle: Lol, one of those threads I started. xD</p>
<p>@zier9993: You should probably list your stats and activities as it takes a bit more to get into Dartmouth than Cornell.</p>
<p>I ended up choosing Dartmouth and here are a few reasons why:
-The atmospheres are different because of their size. I visited both and Dartmouth felt much more open, receptive, welcoming. Students at Dartmouth overall seem happy and cheerful. Cornell, because of its size, is not nearly as intimate.
-I sat in on Macroeconomics, which is sort of an intro course, at Dartmouth. The class had only about 40 students. If I attend the same class at Cornell, I could probably expect to see at least 200 students (I didn’t sit in on a class at Cornell, but I think it’s an accurate speculation.)
-In general, Dartmouth’s dorms are bigger, cleaner, and newer than Cornell’s. Cornell has a lot of one-room doubles, whereas some of Dartmouth’s newer dorms have 2 rooms for doubles, almost twice the size of a Cornell double.
-Dartmouth is more unique than Cornell. Cornell is sort of like the last-resort Ivy, the one that accepts them all, no offense to them. At least 65 students from my high school got admitted to Cornell whereas Dartmouth admitted about 15 from my school. No doubt Cornell’s size has something to do with it, but still Cornell kind of feels like a safety Ivy when so many students get admitted.
-Last but not least, you only attend undergraduate school once. Why not attend the institution that is focused on undergrads and ranks #1 in undergrad teaching?</p>
<p>thank you very much man…and im going to be a junior this coming year so i have no AP scores (school doesnt offer till junior year), SAT 1 scores (taking in october), or sat 2 scores (taking in june)…so theres really not much to go by yet haha</p>
<p>Dartmouth is harder to get into. I agree that Cornell may seem like the resort ivy.</p>
<p>What’s the average number of incoming freshmen for Dartmouth? I like small schools.</p>
<p>Around 1100. It’s the smallest Ivy League school.</p>
<p>why do people always say cornell is the “last resort ivy”…i mean its still crazy hard to get into, and they also say its the hardest to get out of.i think that should factor in a bit</p>
<p>zier9993, Cornell is a very prestigious college and you’ll do well coming out there, but compared to the rest of its Ivy peers, it is usually the least desirable, i.e. last resort. </p>
<p>Also, as per the myth of hardest to get out of, I think every top-tier college is about on par in terms of difficulty. The myth that Cornell is difficult is most likely fueled by the students who did not do well at Cornell. In this case, there are more students (quantitatively) who do not do well at Cornell than at any other Ivy, but the percentage of students struggling is probably about the same as you would find at any other Ivy. The students who do well (probably the majority of students) aren’t going to go around telling people that Cornell is easy, cause it isn’t. It still takes a lot of effort to succeed. Same with the other Ivies; they’re all difficult. You just don’t have as many students complaining about the workload due to their smaller sizes.</p>
<p>And Cornell is crazy hard to get into, but from our perspective (Dartmouth students), it’s easy to get into Cornell. ;)</p>
<p>“And Cornell is crazy hard to get into, but from our perspective (Dartmouth students), it’s easy to get into Cornell.”</p>
<p>I wouldn’t take this as the view of the majority of Dartmouth. I’ll chock this view up to immortalix being a '14. I would say there’s a fair amount of mutual respect for all top schools among students. You go with where the fit and focus of the school most suits you, not because a school has a few percentages lower acceptance rate. As for difficulty, I believe there is a definite variance between top schools and programs within schools. ie cornell known for fierce competition and princeton known for grade deflation are probably harder to get an A in than brown known for its more liberal grading.</p>
<p>I just dont see the Cornell experience to be as unique as Dartmouth’s, or even Brown’s for that matter. Its the big research university of the Ivy league schools.</p>
<p>@spunagule
I started one of those threads, too. lol</p>
<p>I hate to say this but dartmouth, cornell, and brown are universily known as the doormat of the ivies… If you wanna feel good about getting into an ivy league school, apply to cornell, dartmouth, or brown because theyre the easiest of the ivies to get accepted to, so congrats haha. Just so there’s no hard feelings, ive been accepted to 16 of the top 20 schools (according to the us news and world report, so I am not just another bitter applicant…</p>
<p>I have the feeling that you are “just another bitter applicant,” collegekid4. You have a 2130 SAT, and were rejected by UVA – yet you want me to believe that you were accepted to 16 of the USNWR top 20 schools?</p>
<p>A 2130 is a good score, and UVA is a fine school, but given your record, it seems extremely unlikely to me that you would get into the majority of the Ivies. I also find it unlikely that you chose to attend Hopkins over the Ivy League schools to which you were admitted. Hopkins is a great place, but relatively few students take it over the Ivies.</p>
<p>Please stop ■■■■■■■■.</p>
<p>Brown = 9% (8% RD)
Columbia = 9%
Cornell = 18%
Dartmouth = 12%
Harvard = 7%
Penn = 14%
Princeton = 8%
Yale = 7.5%</p>
<p>Brown’s RD admit rate is equal to that of Princeton. And Brown’s a “doormat Ivy”?</p>
<p>About 15-25% of the students at these schools are athletes, making the median or 75th percentile of the SAT a better measure than the 25th percentile on how hard it is to gain admissions from an academic perspective.</p>
<p>SAT 75th percentile
Yale:
CR: 800
MA: 780
WR: 790</p>
<p>Princeton:
CR: 790
MA: 790
WR: 780</p>
<p>Harvard:
CR: 780
MA: 790
WR: 780</p>
<p>Dartmouth:
CR: 770
MA: 780
WR: 780</p>
<p>Columbia:
CR: 770
MA: 780
WR: 770</p>
<p>Brown:
CR: 760
MA: 780
WR: 770</p>
<p>UPenn:
CR: 750
MA: 780
WR: 760</p>
<p>Cornell:
CR: 730
MA: 770
WR: -</p>
<p>As you can see, all these are very respectable numbers. Of course collegekid4 didn’t get into any top schools, or else he would respect other top schools. There are no doormats among the Ivies; though the same cannot be said about people, as collegekid4 has proved to us that he is one.</p>
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<p>Although I agree with your general idea that there are a fair number of recruited athletes, urm admits and developmental admits, I’m not sure that you can assume all of those students fall in the bottome 25th percentile. In fact, I think to do so is unfair to those students. </p>
<p>I do however find myself in 100% agreement with your closing paragraph where you indicate that all the schools are pretty amazing statistically! I would hope that it isn’t the selectivity of the school that determines where one ultimately decides to attend.</p>
<p>Maybe collegekid4 isn’t a ■■■■■, who knows, but…</p>
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<p>The overwhelming majority of posters on here probably beat his SAT and his subject tests in the 600s. He has no right to bash a school when his scores barely make him competitive. I know it’s not productive to feed a ■■■■■, but I had to get it out.</p>
<p>He’s a ■■■■■. People at top schools (even Harvard) always have great respect for people at other top schools. The only people that I have heard bashing top schools are those who are not at a top school.</p>