Dartmouth Vs. Northwestern

<p>Well, here's the choice I start really hating. Both are such awesome schools -- Dartmouth's an Ivy that I've wanted to go to for so long, and Northwestern has been so good to me with financial aid.</p>

<p>I want to major in "business," in this case, economics. I'm thinking of finance, but that's by no means a definite.</p>

<p>Help?</p>

<p>*Same<a href="even%20the%20major">/i</a>, but it's a very nice decision to have to make. Congratulations to you! :)</p>

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<p>just as an fyi, I sent you a personal message regarding this issue.</p>

<p>Depends on how much you are talking about and your family's finances. I wouldn't go deep into debt to attend Dartmouth, if you can go to Northwestern for much less. Anything you want to accomplish, you can accomplish at Northwestern.</p>

<p>dartmouth man.</p>

<p>beefs,</p>

<p>you've been going to different northwestern vs xyz thread and telling people to pick xyz. any particular reason?</p>

<p>Well he is attending U of C :)</p>

<p>Haha. Apologies, Mr./Ms. Mod.</p>

<p>Financial Breakdown (numbers rounded):</p>

<p>Northwestern -- Pay $19,000 a year ($30,000 total in terms of financial aid + scholarship)</p>

<p>Dartmouth -- Pay $29,000 a year ($20,000 total in financial aid)</p>

<p>How good are they in terms of their business programs?</p>

<p>I'd go to Northwestern, you're talking about $40K that's not chump change.</p>

<p>Actually, my friends attending Dartmouth love it there. And I also love skiing. Whats your problem dude? Have an inferiority issue going on there?</p>

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<p>If you are talking about the economics/business-related academic offering, it seems to me NU is at least on par, if not better. I know graduate ranking may not be indicative of undergrad education but fyi, NU's econ has been consistently ranked in the top-10 in all published rankings I've seen. The related industrial engineering/management science department in the engineering school is also consistently one of the top-10 programs (double-major is available for which about 8-10 courses can double count toward both). There's also MMSS (did you apply?). You can also compete for a spot for the newly launched Kellogg cert program for which you take arguably the most intensive business courses available to undergrads in the country (one student in the program said the first course, financial economics, is the same <em>accelerated</em> finance course (called Turbo Finance) offered to first-year Kellogg MBA and taught by the same teacher, with probably even a bit more math involved for the undergrad group as 4 quarters of Honors/equivalent calculus and 2 quarters of econometrics are part of the pre-requisites).</p>

<p>I'd go to Dartmouth</p>

<p>Does anyone know how good Northwestern is for someone interested in going into IBanking? I heard the Ivy thing really helps.</p>

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<p>How come nobody is touching on the most obvious point? Dartmouth is much smaller and rural. NU is twice the size of Dartmouth and suburban, located not 30 minutes from the heart of Chicago, one of North America's liveliest and trendiest cities. </p>

<p>Academically and reputationally, those two schools are equal. We are talking about two of America's top 10 universities, so one cannot go wrong either way.</p>

<p>Neither offer Business to undergrads, so I am not sure what the OP is on about. NU and Dartmouth only offer Economics and NU's Economics department is stronger than Dartmouth's. </p>

<p>However, in terms of placement into IBanks, both schools are at the top of the heap, so again, I would not make this a factor in the decision. I have recruited for two major IBanks and Dartmouth and NU were both considered big time target schools.</p>

<p>Given its relative isolation, Dartmouth's social scene revolves around partying and drinking. Of course, there are other social outlets, but they aren't nearly as prevalent. Northwestern students have access to far more variety. </p>

<p>So it goes back to the original point I was making. The OP should focus on the primary difference between those two universities...SETTING! Rural or suburban?</p>

<p>I would easily go to Dartmouth in this situation, especially being from NJ, unless you really hated the rural aspect. From what I've seen in my experience, Dartmouth does better in job and grad school placement.</p>

<p>I go to Dartmouth and I recommend Dartmouth. Food for thought:</p>

<p>One of my professors was interviewing for a science position at a prestigious research university. The department head comes in and the first thing he says is, "Here at X, we don't give a **** about undergrads. We're a research school."</p>

<p>This was a big turnoff and my professor eventually wound up here, where he does research but also has the opportunity to connect with the undergrads he's teaching. For this, I am grateful and I believe it is an extremely beneficial and distinguishing factor. My teachers know me my name, and will even go so far as to come up to you individually after class and invite you to their office. I really think you would have more trouble getting that sort of attention other schools on this caliber.</p>

<p>Dartmouth has a uniqueness that sets it apart. The undergrad focus (grants, placement, D-plan, tightknit and incredibly well connected community, lack of TAs) make it the clear option in my opinion. That said, NU is a fantastic school.</p>

<p>@ Taggart</p>

<p>It really does come down to overall fit. Would you want a rural or semi-urban environment? What type of extracurriculars do you want? Are you interested in pre-professional schools or a liberal arts education? Visit the schools and decide.</p>

<p>OP,</p>

<p>FYI, NU has TONS of business-related courses/options outside of their economics department:</p>

<p>Check out the following:
Business</a> Institutions Program, Northwestern University
Northwestern</a> University :: Undergraduate Leadership Program
Kellogg</a> School Certificate Program for Undergraduates - Kellogg School of Management - Northwestern University<br>
Northwestern</a> University - Industrial Engineering and Management Sciences
learning & organizational change Undergraduate</a> :: Curriculum
integrated marketing certificate Medill</a> - IMC Undergraduate Certificate</p>