Dartmouth vs NYU (JP Morgan Smart Start Scholarship)

<p>Hello, all! I'm in a pickle...I have to choose between two amazing options for college. </p>

<p>I got accepted into Dartmouth, with good financial aid. I know that Dartmouth is an amazing college: I have yet to visit the campus, but I know that I will fall in love with it! I also know that Dartmouth has a great International Relations program...the only downside is that business is not offered to undergraduate students (except for three classes at Tuck). I am not sure if I want to do business, but I would like to experiment with it in college. Dartmouth also does give me that "college experience," because it has an actual campus. </p>

<p>I also got accepted to NYU, but as a JP Morgan Smart Scholar. This means that I basically have a full ride to NYU, along with an internship at JP Morgan Chase. This is obviously a great opportunity! At NYU, I would major in International Relations and minor in Business Studies. I also have yet to visit NYU. </p>

<p>I do like Dartmouth more than NYU, but I am told that the JP Morgan scholarship would benefit me more in the long-run. Then again, does Dartmouth offer the same benefits, if not more? Dartmouth has a bigger name than NYU, but I do not know if that "name" will help me in the future. Once again, I am also not completely sure if I want to do business...at this point, my major of choice is International Relations, but I may experiment in the business realm. </p>

<p>Overall, which seems to be the better choice?</p>

<p>What is the cost differential after factoring in financial aid? If it was Dartmouth at sticker and NYU with a full ride, NYU is a no-brainer. But if Dartmouth is only a couple of thousand more per year, it becomes a much tougher choice. (As a biz prospie, you need to look at this as a value proposition.)</p>

<p>Just so you know, IR is an honors major at NYU - which means you guaranteed to be allowed into the major.</p>

<p>You must take a certain number of pre-req classes and receive a cumulative average of 3.65 in all of your pre-reqs AND you must have an overall 3.65 GPA in order to apply to the IR program. If you are accepted, you must maintain this GPA until you graduate.</p>

<p>I’d go to Dart (as long as the price differential isn’t too great). It’s not like you won’t have your pick of fantastic internships regardless. They are two drastically different schools.</p>

<p>@Blue: I would have to pay $20,000 to attend Dartmouth, but I’m in the process of appealing. I am not sure if I would still have to pay $16,000 for dorming at NYU…I still have to ask about that. Yes, it’s a very valuable proposition…and so difficult, too! </p>

<p>@NYU: Yes, I am aware of that! I would probably start off with Politics, but I definitely want to aim for that IR major. </p>

<p>@GW: Exactly. I know that I can get an internship at Dartmouth, but will it be just as easy to get a job after I graduate? With the JP Morgan scholarship, I will probably have a job at JP Morgan after I graduate!</p>

<p>Is that per year, or for all 4 years?</p>

<p>a job at jp morgan equates to indentured servitude for a lot of people. you need to be sure that’s exactly what you want to do and that the culture is a fit. (you’ll probably be in ib - 100 hour weeks, most of it spent doing nothing or sitting at a photocopier at 2am. gets old really quick. sorry to burst your bubble lol) </p>

<p>but it will be just as easy if not easier to get a job in any field you wish coming out of dart, especially if you aren’t sure you want to be in nyc.</p>

<p>@Jungah: The scholarship? It pays for each year, so I basically don’t have to pay much.
As for the Dartmouth financial aid, I would have to pay $20,000 per year, give or take (the financial aid package may change from year to year, depending on our financial situation). </p>

<p>@GW: I see what you mean! Thanks for the input! Believe it or not, I’m actually okay with doing that, haha! The only reason why I’m hesitant to take the scholarship is because I am not totally in love with NYU. I feel that everything is more intimate at Dartmouth, but NYU’s location is more strategic than that of Dartmouth.</p>

<p>You will have the time of your life at Dartmouth- and Dartmouth is one of the best schools to place into both Washington and Wall Street . There is no need for a “special program” at Dartmouth because, frankly, everyone does well with placement. You will have a tighter social circle, still have the best access to internships (Dplan is huge for this - there are special Dartmouth only internships at most of the big finance and consulting firms for those going into business, and the same goes for Washington, DC internships), and a truly undergraduate college with all of the benefits associated with that (like amazing study abroad, nice dorms/food, and small classes). I would not consider NYU for a second - the educational and social/personal experience at Dartmouth wins by far, unless finances are a true concern. There is no chance you will be better off, job wise, by going to NYU.</p>

<p>Very different campuses, of course. Would you be happier living in one of the most exciting cities or in a small town with great outdoor activities and a much more cohesive college community? NYU doesn’t really have a campus, and NYC is so exciting that many students don’t hang out with each another, so it may be hard to have close relationships with fellow students. I know two students who dropped out of NYU because they missed a typical college atmosphere.
And, of course, find out out whether NYU would charge you for room and board.</p>