<p>I hate to say it, but based on the writing style, quality of thought, knowledge base, and maturity reflected in your post, no one made a mistake in rejecting you. If you want to know what went wrong with your applications to HYP, you can start with wondering whether even a drop of any of your attitude leaked out. I don’t care what other accomplishments were on your resume, the things you put here are practically disqualifying.</p>
<p>Lucky for you, you have been accepted to four fabulous, world-class universities. Not that you deserve it; you don’t. What exultationsy said about Penn is completely true about all four of them: there is nowhere you can get to from Harvard that you can’t get to from Penn, Dartmouth, Cornell, or Brown. (Case in point: among my son’s HS class of 2007 friends, the one with the six-figure financial industry job is someone who turned down Stanford and Columbia to go to Brown. And majored in Sociology. Yes, the networking and what he did outside of class was far more important than anything else.)</p>
<p>You seem to have the impression that none of those colleges gives you half of what Harvard or Yale would have. In fact, every one of them offers 95%-plus of Harvard or Yale. Harvard might offer you 2,347,492 opportunities, of which you might have the time, inclination, and skill to pursue 3 or 4. Any of Penn, etc., could offer you 2,196,558 similar opportunities, of which you might have the time, inclination, and skill to pursue 3 or 4. What is going to hold you back there is the same thing that would have surely held you back at Harvard: your own ignorance, whininess, negativity, and inflated ego.</p>
<p>He might be a ■■■■■, or someone with attitude issues that are usually reflected in the application,
“I had the same question. I didn’t receive a Columbia interview either, and I’m a RD applicant with excellent stats (virtually the same as yours). It’s not like I like in Wyoming where alumni are not available; I live in frickin’ Silicon Valley, and my friend who lives in NJ (with equally good stats as mine) didn’t get an interview either.”</p>
<p>Due to the 30k+ applicants in these schools, the comments might be useful to lurkers or others that stumble on CC as they go through this disappointing phase in their life, before they move on and embrace the school they have been accepted to. Unfortunately, the long WLs that the top schools have to hedge their yield only prolongs the period of anguish for many. I find that many posters are more harsh sometimes but I think it is better to present the cold reality to these students and their parents than perpetuate sugarcoated fantasies. Look how many parents are showing up for the first time during post-decision period every year and say they are in shock that their angel superstar (with 1900, or 2010 SAT and lackluster ECs) did not get accepted by any IVY!, or any other top school since the kid had scores and gpa within the published ranges for the schools (which can mean the low 25% in the range, not the mean), and how they wished they had found out about CC before they applied.</p>
<p>JHS: excuse me, you’re a parent and you talk like that??? this is a kid who is obviously (and not entirely unreasonably) disappointed that he didn’t get the results he thought he deserved for his hard work (whether or not you agree that he deserved them)…and you choose to attack him with personal insults? Why dont you try having a little understanding… he is entirely wrong in thinking that HYP are automatic portals into success and riches, of course, but yeah, it totally sucks when you worked your butt off and don’t have your expectations for a reward met. He is a teenager, he doesnt have the decades of wisdom and life perspective that you have been blessed with, ok? </p>
<p>Man am i sick of parents who spend their time venting their anger on this site, of all places!</p>
<p>^ JHS did not attack the op but made a realistic evaluation about OP based on his comments. He does not vent any anger but offers a reality check to a generation of kids raised in a school environment where they were not supposed to keep score on who wins the game, every child is promoted even if he is unable to write basic sentences, and are given the false impression that life is full of wins as every participant, in any activity gets an honorable mention award. Well, it is better to get a cold shower now, while they are still in mom and dad’s cocoon and face reality than crash and burn when they will be alone in college/professional job.</p>
<p>There was actually an article in the wsj about the difficulty employers have with all these entitled kids of nowadays that get really upset if someone critique’s their work. They believe they are smarter than anyone, can do no wrong, and are entitled to time out, vacation, constant raises, and perks, just of who they are. Well, life sucks, so they need to grow up.</p>
<p>"This generation was treated so delicately that many schoolteachers stopped grading papers and tests in harsh-looking red ink. Some managers have seen millennials break down in tears after a negative performance review and even quit their jobs. “They like the constant positive reinforcement, but don’t always take suggestions for improvement well,”</p>
<p>I guess there was a good reason that younger employees were the first to hit the door when the economy nosedived.</p>
<p>It is painfully difficult to have much sympathy for students who have several phenomenal top choices. It sounds more like simple trophy hunting.</p>
<p>i just dont think that this guy is acting all that entitled. He didn’t laze around for 4 years and then demand to be accepted into these schools. He is simply disappointed…let the guy grieve a little, for gods sake! How does one not feel disappointed when legacies, URMs, athletes etc get accepted on less academic accomplishments? One understandably goes through a period where they feel that their hard work was not worth the while. </p>
<p>Now, if he continues to feel like this 4 years later, sure, blame him for being ignorant and selfish and whatever you want to say. but it’s still April!!</p>
<p>thank for the advice everyone. some of you were harsh, some understanding, some practical, but I understood that it’s time to be proud of what I’ve gotten and move forwards.</p>
<p>it’s not a sense of entitlement; rather, it was a misguided hope (on my part) that a big paycheck would simply follow a HYP education (and I’m sure it may in many cases). </p>
<p>At Penn CAS though, I’m confident that I can make my goals materialize too. I’ll be trying to transfer into Wharton, but if not, I’ll still be at Penn! and that’s awesome.</p>
<p>PLEASE TELL ME THIS THOUGH-Have you heard of many applicants (and I don’t mean to sounds arrogant) with stats equal to or better than mine who were REJECTED from penn, columbia, brown, darmouth, HYP, etc? I know there was a student named Saugus who was ****ed about the process, but I want to know if many top students are going through what I went.</p>
<p>THANKS. It’ll be hard to choose between Penn, Brown, Dmouth, but we’ll see what happens.</p>
<p>I’m glad to hear you’re doing better. Penn is an excellent institution! Basically when students apply to ivies and other top schools, they are placing a ticket in the lottery, some have a few more tickets and some only have 1, but it’s all a crapshoot. So being rejected from a top institution is nothing to be ashamed of, as you got in to many others. So be proud and work hard to get that paycheck! Good luck.</p>
<p>Due to attitude, I would think Penn wil be the best fit for you. Just for the self adulation, only the Wharton name can replace the Harvard denial.
And yes, I know of students with similar stats who were denied. I also know of students with perfect test scores and international math olympiads awards and other similar achievements who still do not get it why MIT did not admit them.</p>
<p>There are most definitely students with your stats, or better, who got rejected by HYP (and probably other places too). But those students are much less likely to post on here about their experiences. If you got accepted, you want to share it with the world…but if you got rejected, you never want to see a Harvard discussion thread again, you know?</p>
<p>I’m sorry if I sound harsh, but I really don’t have a lot of patience for someone who </p>
<p>–was accepted at four or five of the top colleges in the country (Williams, too, apparently)
– whines about the ones he didn’t get into
– not while the wound is fresh, but a week later
– comes across like someone who hasn’t done a lick of research or even thought hard
– writes poorly
– feels entitled to be accepted everywhere because he has a high class rank, high test scores, and engaged in a stereotypical set of ECs
– seems to care about nothing but how much money he is going to make</p>
<p>Now, I’m sure powerfuldog is really smart, and will have a lot to offer when he grows up, but there’s nothing less attractive than a sore winner, and that’s how he comes across. And his excuse is, what? He’s too good for Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell, Williams? What a joke! He should be thanking his lucky stars that they’re giving him a chance.</p>
<p>I don’t know what you think you are, but I will tell you that I’ve had enough with your ridiculous personal insults.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should read read my last post. You will see that I am no sore winner, as you shallowly put it: I’ve worked hard and have done my research, yet I had mild emotional pangs of discontent after being rejected from the Universities that everyone touts as “the best”…namely HYP.</p>
<p>As you can see from the last post, I’ve mentioned that I’m glad for the people who gave me some perspective and I’ve learned to handle this in the right way. Maybe dealing with brash comments such as yours (even AFTER I mentioned that I developed the right perspective) will prepare me well for the future.</p>
<p>Writes poorly? Are you joking? I’m venting on a public forum and instead of offering me insight, you choose to level a shallow jab? Perhaps you should look at the writing in some of your own posts. And you said you didn’t have patience for my “ignorance”. Obviously, you had the patience to write not one, but two posts, that effectively hurled personal insults at me without an iota of encouraging advice.</p>
<p>I sincerely did not wish to offend you or anything you said. I’m just saying what I had to say to defend myself. For everyone who did help me through this, thank you.</p>
<p>The two richest people in this country Gates and Buffett - one was turned down by Harvard, one was accepted but left after one year.</p>
<p>Zuckerberg - Left Harvard before graduation.</p>
<p>Michael Dell - Started his business in UTexas dorm</p>
<p>Steve Jobs - Dropped out of a college because he did not see a reason to pay for it.</p>
<p>None of the above needed a Harvard degree to follow their passions and get filthy rich along the way. If you think a specific college makes you successful, you are totally wrong. It is what drives you that makes you successful. You can attend your local community college and still be more successful than a HYP graduate if you have the drive.</p>