<p>BearCub owned this like this is his forum</p>
<p>first, let me say that i kind of got to this thread by accident and just started reading it. second, i have nothing against WU, my grandfather went there and so did my friend's mom and im not on here to bash it im just sharing my opinion/point of view. so please, is u disagree my ignorance, no need to bite my head off.</p>
<p>that said, if WU is such a prestigious academic school, why has it never been mentioned at any of the college presentations given in my area? the only reason i know about WU is because of those people i know. what notable achievements or alumni have come from there? in short, what has WU done to be worthy of being seen as on the same level as other elite universities? Finally, just because people with high SATs go to WU doesnt necessarily make it a brilliant school. Have these people achieved in other areas or are they primarily basing their merit off of their SAT score? Again, I dont mean to bash, and I understand that I may be ignorant on certain (many?) points, but now im just curious for more info from ur perspectives.</p>
<p>To attempt to answer your question, codini: </p>
<p>I'm not entirely sure what it takes to argue that a school is "prestigious," because <em>apparently</em> our USNWR rating (tied with Cornell @ 12th) and acceptance rates are all a scam. If you mean name-recognition, then no, WashU is not a household name - most people don't even know what state it's in, for understandable reasons, lol.</p>
<p>The school HAS been attracting better and better students to the point where it's definitely not a "joke" to compare the school to traditional top-schools. (I've met several people here who've turned down Ivies such as Princeton to come here, if that counts for anything) The problem is that, as I understand it, we've only reached this level in the last two decades or so, so that WashU's reputation hasn't caught up on the popular level. From talking to professors, though, I can tell you that WU undergrad students tend to be able to get into <em>more prestigious</em> grad schools than our own, so other colleges do recognize WashU a bit more than popular opinion.</p>
<p>If someone has a link to information about Alumni and such on the WUSTL website that'd probably be good to get on here (in another thread though maybe... this one needs to go...) </p>
<p>If you're picking a college, then I am sure you are not going to decide entirely based on the name-recognition you're likely to get talking to random people off the street. In which case, I definitely suggest that you look into the particular department that is of interest to you. The Pre-Med program is strong here (and probably the most popular undergrad choice) probably because we have a medical school ranked 3rd after JH and Harvard for research. I couldn't tell you why college presentations don't mention it in your area, that depends entirely on your area - my area's presentations never mentioned Harvard or Princeton... Anyway, if you're choosing a college, I'd recommend that you look at things on a departmental level. WashU is a good school, but that doesn't mean it's right for everyone and every interest.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>what notable achievements ROLLER-BOTS!!! Roller-bot</a> - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>or alumni have come from there? List</a> of Nobel Laureates affiliated with Washington University in St. Louis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Category:Washington</a> University in St. Louis alumni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p> </blockquote>
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<p>...and JOHN HARTFORD!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!
YouTube</a> - John Hartford - Ramblin - 13 - Steamboat Whistle Blues</p>
<p>my sister applied to WashU, i applied to Wharton. She told me to take a look at this so I did. Apparently, he goes to Wharton... I don't want to go anymore after reading this lol jk
Quote from one of his past posts
"As a Wharton undergraduate you are not, "competing against the Wharton MBA students as well as domestic and international MBA students." Wharton undergraduate apply for analyst positions for the most part and MBA candidates apply for associate positions. Two very different things. Yale is great though; good choice."</p>
<p>My daughter started receiving solicitations from WashU in the 9th grade. I suspect it was because she started taking the ACT in the 8th grade due to high scores and is hispanic. But this being the first school she received a mailing from at 14 years old left a negative impression in her mind and mine.</p>
<p>To update my Post #16 above: Northwestern University received 25,013 completed applications for the class of 2012; it is entirely reasonable, therefore, that WashUStL received over 22,000 applications especially since Northwestern requires more essays than does WashUStL, and since WashUStL is a prolific & aggressive marketer.</p>
<p>The number of applications at Wash U. is not a surprise. Many applicants from the south, the west and the midwest who apply to the Ivies are now figuring out that the chances of being accepted, especially for caucasians and asians, is far less than what the Ivies would have you believe. Many of these students are applying to Wash U. as a more realistic back up to the Ivies. And, as a result, the quality of those matriculating to Wash U. has gone up substantially over the past 5 or 6-years. </p>
<p>Understand that those applying to the Ivies, and most do not apply to all the Ivies, will have their applications divided up by eight schools. As their reasonable back ups, Northwestern and Wash U., plus some to Chicago, the application pie is not sliced as many ways as the application to the Ivies are. There are many students who apply to Wash U. and Northwestern, as well as 3 or 4-Ivies. </p>
<p>The whole acceptance thing at the Ivies has become very interesting. Harvard, which saw an 18% increase in applicants for the 2012 class over the 2011 class, has so many slots earmarked for affirmative action, tagged athletes, legacy students, and roughly 12% international students, that there will be only 600 or so slots available to caucasians and Asian students....from the entire country. That works out to 12 pre state.</p>
<p>The middle 50% figures given out by the school, which are skewed by the affirmative action, athletes and legacy students, will give the average a false sense of belief that they are indeed in the mix. Hence, an incredible number of students with 2,300 SAT scores are sent looking elsewhere. The little Ivies, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Chicago, Northwestern, Emory Wash U. and a number of others benefit tremendously from this spillover.</p>
<p>There are an awful lot of bright, talented students out there. Few are getting into the Ivies. They have to go somewhere. </p>
<p>Additionally,</p>
<p>:/ This is the topic that forced me to create an account. Odd eh? </p>
<p>But, after reading this I couldn't stay silent.
I kind of feel horrible for bumping this board, but it /is/ on the second page currently so it's not too bad of a bump.</p>
<p>Anyways, I'm one of the people who love WashU way better than any of the Ivies. I've visited most of the East Coast colleges that was posted and I personally feel that WashU is actually /better/ than most of them. I actually really disliked UPenn, it just didn't seem to fit me at all.</p>
<p>I've also talked to many people who got into WashU who agree with me. WashU just has this personality that is amazingly wonderful, after all it is rated the "best quality of life." And ranked very high, and many times above, a lot of Ivies in a lot of things.</p>
<p>Anyone who bashes it because of the name have obviously not visited. And if you have, you've obviously not been exposed long enough. I've lived around the St. Louis area for a very long time and actually did the summer program there. A defiantly rivals the Ivies in the quality of education</p>
<p>I actually don't see why people choose the Ivies above WashU. Perhaps just bragging rights? The classes at WashU are all as tough and taught by very amazing people</p>
<p>Let me ask, have you even seen WashU's professor lists?
I'll point to you the first thing in College of Arts and Sciences 2006-08:
Director: UPenn
Endowed Professors: Cornell
Professors: Harvard, Boston, Harvard, Harvard, John Hopkins
Associate Professors:
Duke, Columbia, Michigan, Yale, Yale, Stanford. </p>
<p>:/ And that's just "African and African American Studies"</p>
<p>I personally think WashU's Olin school of business is much more amazinggg not to mention the crazy hard Architecture school.</p>
<p>I don't understand why anyone would brush WashU aside just because it's not as much of a household name as "Harvard." The school is beyond amazing. </p>
<p>But, hey maybe I should be glad that there's people who stick their nose up at WashU. I don't want those people going to school here. Go to your precious Ivie league schools.</p>
<p>I'm even happier I decided that I like WashU better than any of the Ivies. I guess I get more down to earth, non braggart people who like the school not just because of the name, but because of what it is.</p>
<p>^ Exactly. The Poli-Sci professor list is just insane, as is the History one- the amazing selection of experienced and devoted professors is one of the "levelers" w/ the Ivies in my mind, and I would happily attend WashU over most top schools (besides Yale, ha).</p>
<p>Oh yeah, Olin is amazing, too.</p>
<p>Gosh, this is taking forever!!! I'm still waiting for the OP to show us how he came out with the idea that his school's statistics are legit. Or maybe he finally realized his own ignorance. =)</p>
<p>this thread has done nothing to deserve resuscitation... good point though, confusedboy. :)</p>
<p>Again, regretfully bumping, but I completely agree with flyingcurlytail.</p>
<p>Here is what davida1 tried to pull in another forum and is again getting owned:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/661044-why-ivies-stanford-mit-different-other-top-schools.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/661044-why-ivies-stanford-mit-different-other-top-schools.html</a></p>
<p>Now that we know he goes to Wharton, I have to add in that my best friend (interested in business) was obsessed with Wharton for the longest time, I believe mostly for the prestige of both Ivy League and Wharton (within the scope of business schools). However, he visited and really disliked the elitist attitude he felt from the students, specifically the Wharton students he spoke to. Just thought this was funny/ironic considering davida1's warped sense of ideals and mindset. Because of this, I dont think anyone will be able to change his ignorant mind/opinion, and he can simply continue to act pathetic, which is exactly how I view someone like himself.</p>
<p>and if Davida wants prestige, I'm sure all of us here on this forum will be happy to bestow upon him the honor of: Most Annoying Troll on CC. You're already in college, now leave us alone.</p>
<p>Well...Wash U has 4 undergraduates schools:
-College of Ats and Science
-Sam Fox School of Design and Visual Arts
-Olin Business School
-School of Engineering</p>
<p>And I think that's partially why the University annually receives such a lot of applications.</p>
<p>i just spent like 45 mins reading thru this thread :) now i want the davida1 guy (or girl) to write something else!</p>
<p>yes but how many TOP schools have applications without supplements? 15 people at my school applied to WUSTL and talking to many of them, a big reason was because it did not have a supplement. Only 3 people applied to MIT from my school, maybe 5 to Yale and maybe 7 for Stanford. I believe it is very plausible for Wash. U to have 23000 applicants.</p>
<p>why is this thread still active lol</p>
<p>This isn’t very nice.</p>
<p>^^is there a reason why you felt it necessary to revive a thread that’s been dormant for three years?</p>