<p>Northwestern got less than that. Georgetown only got 16163. Duke got 18090. U Chicago got 10362. Princeton got 18942. </p>
<p>I can't believe I'm mentioning these top schools when discussing WUSTL, but it's just to show how ridiculous that number is. Are they counting incomplete apps? Requests for information? Waiving admissions fees for every applicant? Give me a break.</p>
<p>75th Percentile SAT Scores: 1530
25th Percentile SAT Scores: 1370</p>
<p>You are saying that 25% of the student body at WUSTL is composed of students with over a 1530? Why would anyone over a 1530 go to WUSTL? They most likely have several other options including the ivies with that score. </p>
<p>That makes the average of both 1450. Stanford's average of 75th and 25th percentile scores is 1445. Higher test score stats than Stanford?? Please (Pulleeeessse...). Northwestern's is 1435 and U Chicago's is 1430. </p>
<p>Acceptance rate lower than Georgetown, Cornell, Duke, Johns Hopkins, UC Berkeley, Amherst, and Williams? Come on.</p>
<p>This is totally UNETHICAL and they have been doing it for a while now to boost their ranking. Everyone knows WUSTL is lying, so please STOP.</p>
<p>I know WashU isn't nearly as famous as all the other schools out there. However, that doesn't mean that they have students of lesser caliber either. The university is very generous with financial aid, which helps attract many students AND is a prime target for many pre-meds.</p>
<p>This was last year, but if you read this article, WUSTL also has the 2nd most national merit scholars for a private school, topped only by Harvard. That accounts for the very high SAT scores. </p>
<p>As you can see from my name, I live in Chicago and Washu was clearly my choice before Northwestern, U of Chicago and Notre Dame. They don't need to lie to get applicants. They are clearly the Ivy League school of the Midwest.</p>
<p>If you decide to go elsewhere so be it. They will get enough applicants to take the slot you don't apply for. By the way, before you bash them, take a tour of the campus and then report back.</p>
<p>I applied early to an Ivy and got in. I would never apply to school as pathetic as WUSTL. Anecdotes about roommates or friends is irrelevant. I'm talking about the overall numbers. They don't make sense. Obviously there is no way to prove that WUSTL is lying because the school itself reports its numbers and there is no independent auditor. I think there needs to be an independent organization that verifies these numbers because they appear to be suspect and that has been the case for WUSTL for a long time now. What they are doing is simply not ethical if in fact there numbers are false. The reality is that the admissions people could make up any numbers they want and publish them, so there is no reason to trust them especially if they seem ridiculous. I was in my college counseling office in high school senior year just before graduation and the file for every student that applied to college was left out from the previous year. I glanced at a few of the files and the one girl who went to WUSTL (no legacy, non-URM, no hook, not a large donor) had a 1210 SAT score and a 3.2 GPA. If you are going to provide anecdotes, I'll provide that one (I am still in college FYI so this was not that long ago).</p>
<p>It is really embarrassingly stupid for people to attack me personally. I am talking about institutional dishonesty...If you go to WUSTL, great. I hope you enjoy your school. This isn't personal.</p>
<p>I would add though that there are many other schools that don't require supplements and offer the common app that get far fewer applications than WUSTL. The mass mailing campaign shouldn't have too much of an impact because people receive lots of mail from many, many institutions. Why they would choose WUSTL out of the many other schools that mass mail is unclear. Lay prestige I think encourages apps more than mass mailing does and certainly the schools I listed that receive fewer apps like Northwestern or Georgetown, for example, have more lay prestige.</p>
<p>Last, if it is truly stealing students with outstanding aid packages, why is its yield rate so much lower than its peer institutions?</p>
<p>I think he has a case of Ivy-syndrome.
I don't know if you are aware but WUSTL sends out a TON of flyers/brochures to students ALL over the country. They spend more money advertising than the other schools you named, thus enticing MORE students to apply since they're all receiving letters like "come to WUSTL! great financial aid! etc,etc." </p>
<p>I don't understand how you can bash WUSTL when they're ranked top 5 for quality of student life and their medical school is second/third in the nation.</p>
<p>And like the other posts, unless you have proof, no one is going to take you seriously. Just because you "think" 22,000 is a lot of apps, doesn't make it true. Many people are intimidated by those "name" schools you've mentioned and therefore don't apply. Average people, however, who receive mail from WUSTL and don't know much about it, think they have a decent shot and therefore apply. 22,000 compared to the entire population of high school seniors applying for college is still only a small fraction.</p>
<p>I worked in a college admissions department, and there are independent auditors that check on the data that colleges publish. I believe it's through the same service that deals with accreditation.</p>
<p>And the advertising to NM scholars doesn't hurt either. I got mail from WUSTL in high school, and had I been living in the Midwest at the time, it would have been very tempting...</p>
<p>"I would never apply to school as pathetic as WUSTL."</p>
<p>"It is really embarrassingly stupid for people to attack me personally."</p>
<p>Can you see why people do when you make comments like that on WashU's board? Do you expect people to treat you nicely when you come right out and attack their school? But seriously, who cares? Until you get proof nobody will take you seriously.</p>
<p>"What they are doing is simply not ethical if in fact there numbers are false"
I would have thought an ivy-league student would know the difference between their and there by now. Hey it was a cheap shot but meh. He's a troll.</p>
<p>I Agree. Our intro Chemistry class is INSANE. 600 Come in. Roughly 50% ppl drop out. Heard of Intro to Physical Chemistry before? P-chem is a junior level class. We're doing that in Chem I...</p>
<p>And I'll telling you because my chemistry final is in 2 days. And we easily have one of the toughest pre-med programs out there when after 4 years, our pre-med population is 30% of the original pre-med population, and the average MCAT score is 36 out of those people.</p>
<p>Just wait, in a few years, WashU's ranking will easily exceed almost all Ivy leagues.</p>
<p>The first set of numbers is the "old" SAT (math & reading only, max = 1600). Anything over 1600 refers to the "new" SAT (math, reading & writing, max = 2400).</p>
<p>The pre-frosh I hosted last year turned down Duke for Wash U because he got a merit scholarship there.
There are some pretty good reasons to turn down 'better schools' for Wash U.</p>
<p>To OP,
Your IVY league school will be shame on you! If your admission decision was made today, I am pretty sure that would be a rejection! Which elite school wants a student who bashes others without any evidence, even if he gets IVY standard SAT? If he ever does...</p>
<p>I strongly support #12, "Just wait, in a few years, WashU's ranking will easily exceed almost all Ivy leagues."
yeah, maybe the name of Wash U's kind of generic, but anything else is extraordinary. aha, OP, you go to school just for the NAME, pullleseseeee!</p>