Dear Wash U...STOP LYING about your admissions statistics!

Colleges and Universities A-Z Washington University in St. Louis
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<p>22428 applicants? Are you kidding me?</p>

<p>Northwestern got less than that. Georgetown only got 16163. Duke got 18090. U Chicago got 10362. Princeton got 18942.</p>

<p>I can't believe I'm mentioning these top schools when discussing WUSTL, but it's just to show how ridiculous that number is. Are they counting incomplete apps? Requests for information? Waiving admissions fees for every applicant? Give me a break.</p>

<p>75th Percentile SAT Scores: 1530
25th Percentile SAT Scores: 1370</p>

<p>You are saying that 25% of the student body at WUSTL is composed of students with over a 1530? Why would anyone over a 1530 go to WUSTL? They most likely have several other options including the ivies with that score.</p>

<p>That makes the average of both 1450. Stanford's average of 75th and 25th percentile scores is 1445. Higher test score stats than Stanford?? Please (Pulleeeessse...). Northwestern's is 1435 and U Chicago's is 1430.</p>

<p>Acceptance rate lower than Georgetown, Cornell, Duke, Johns Hopkins, UC Berkeley, Amherst, and Williams? Come on.</p>

<p>This is totally UNETHICAL and they have been doing it for a while now to boost their ranking. Everyone knows WUSTL is lying, so please STOP.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

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<p>Dear davida1,
NO.</p>

<p>sincerely, Wash U</p>

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<p>It's possible the 22428 could include grad students. It would make sense that it has lower acceptance rates than Cornell. It's about half the size of Cornell in undergraduates, plus, it's completely private where parts of Cornell are contract schools of SUNY.</p>

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<p>I don't know if you realize this.....
As far as advertising goes Wash U is the leader. It is very possible that they do have that many applicants due to their advertising/mail system. They sent me so much stuff that I finally gave in and applied. I didn't go there but they still got my application fee and statistics. Just letting you know, not saying the numbers are right or wrong. Be careful of accusations, numbers tend to surprise people.</p>

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<p>Wash U is a joke.</p>

<p>OP, don't worry. Grad schools and employers do not get deceived by Wash U's trickery and attempt at deception.</p>

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<p>They also use the common application and don't ask for a supplemental essay. Furthermore, they offer merit-based aid. They basically beg for unqualified people to apply and lure qualified upper middle calass and upper class students with merit aid.</p>

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<p>if that's the case then you have nothing to worry about! As long as you don't go there, you can enjoy the benefits! It's a win-win, you don't attend their "trickery", and they won't have to deal with your stupidity!</p>

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<p>Davida1,</p>

<p>Sorry you did not get in. FYI, my son is there. He scored a 1560/1600 (2340/2400). 2 of his 3 suitemates have higher SATs. He did not apply to any Ivies, but I doubt he would have been admitted.</p>

<p>Please keep in mind that according to Princeton Review, Wash U is ranked #1 in Quality of Life. People who are not bitter find that an important quality in a school, and perhaps that is why so many apply there.</p>

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<p>Davida 1,</p>

<p>I genuinely hope that you can be resonsble for your words. My roommate got admitted by Yale and Princeton, but finally came here. Want to know why? He thinks the automosphere here is awesome. </p>

<p>Again, BE Resbonsible. Please present your evidence. I do know a bunch of kids who have extrmely high SAT score. Why don't you just come here and figure it out? </p>

<p>Your subjective judgement is totally UNTRUE and the people in WashU have been working dilligently for decades to transform WashU to a top-notch school. Now, everyone knows WUSTL is one of the best in the nation, so please STOP.</p>

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<p>lol I don't even know what to say. Who cares? Stats and all that other crap are overrated imo anyway.</p>

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<p>I have an explanation for the high number of their applicants. THERE'S NO SUPPLEMENT! That means that for just the fee of $55 dollars and the common app essay (which Wash U applicants probably had to do anyway for another school), they can apply. Wash U is demonstrated interest. I know lots of people applying for the hell of it, they haven't visited, aren't going to interview, didn't go to any meetings. Wash U just rejects those people. That's how they keep the rates down.</p>

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<p>WUSTL is a great school with a problem: there are too many Ivy school rejects who feel some entitlement to admission into the school even though they become interested upon being turned down elsewhere (or applied only in anticipation of rejection). Rather than admitting this cadre of "wish I were someplace else" students, the school appears to have made a rationale choice of attempting to weed out such people on the basis of the their failure to show some genuine interest in the school. I think doing so allows the school to attract top notch students who want to be there while allowing the rejects to find a home elsewhere.</p>

<p>Any student with half a brain knows the admission statistics before they apply. If the statistics are a problem, presumably they apply elsewhere. If they are are aware of the statistics and elect to apply at WUSTL (rather than a school where the numbers are not so difficult), then that's their choice, and stop complaining.</p>

<p>This really is such a silly issue.</p>

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<p>Dude, you are so ignorant. My 2310 makes me one of the stupid people here. In case you haven't heard, Ivy League does not mean better than everyone else. Wash U is amazing, and I know plenty of people who got rejected from WUSTL but into Princeton, Yale, etc. I'm sorry, you're using Georgetown as a comparison? Seriously? You don't know anything about Wash U. And for your "higher test scores than Stanford" crap, guess what, not everyone who goes to Stanford is a genius. I know a kid who goes there on a squash scholarship. While I most certainly "had other options including the ivies," I'm mature enough to know that choosing based on something stupid like that is a bad decision. I'm sorry you got rejected by Wash U. We're doing fine without you.</p>

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<p>"Northwestern got less than that. Georgetown only got 16163. Duke got 18090. U Chicago got 10362. Princeton got 18942."</p>

<p>Just because you think these schools are better than Wash.U. doesn't mean that they are really better in reality. Besides Princeton and Chicago, I personally think that Wash.U. is a better school than the rest of the schools above. Btw, Harvard and Cornell received more than 25k applications for the class 2012. So, does it mean that Cornell lied simply because there is no way Cornell attract more students than Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, or Stanford?</p>

<p>"You are saying that 25% of the student body at WUSTL is composed of students with over a 1530? Why would anyone over a 1530 go to WUSTL? They most likely have several other options including the ivies with that score."</p>

<p>Well, not everyone is crazy about the ivies like you are. I didn't even wanna apply to the ivies, coz Ivy League is ONLY an athletic conference. Also, almost everyone that I know in Wash.U. did get in to at least one ivy league school, but decided to attend Wash.U.</p>

<p>"Acceptance rate lower than Georgetown, Cornell, Duke, Johns Hopkins, UC Berkeley, Amherst, and Williams? Come on."</p>

<p>Okay, YOU COME ON! UC Berkeley is a public school...so the acceptance rate should be quite high compared to its peer institutions. Georgetown, Cornell, Duke, JHU, Amherst, and Williams have around the same acceptance rate as Wash.U., which is around 18-22%...so dont make a big fuss over 1 or 3% difference in acceptance rate.</p>

<p>Finally, if you didn't get in to Wash.U., I'm really sorry for that. But if you did get in, and ended up choosing an ivy over Wash.U., then that's your choice. I mean, just choose the school that you're most comfortable at. Coz after all, beauty lies in the the eyes of the beholder.</p>

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<p>The issue is "then vs. now." Davida is making judgements about Wash U. based on old data/perception.</p>

<p>When I was in college 25 years ago, Wash U. was a "good" school, not a great one. Incoming students had lower scores, lower grades, and Wash U. was not a reach for top students. I went to Northwestern and never considered Wash U. to be anywhere near our league.</p>

<p>Today, I am active with Northwestern and the parent of two Wash U. students. Both of my children chose Wash U. over Northwestern, and Ivies. A BIG factor in their choosing Wash U. was because they could be with other top students, and have a happy/positive experience. Whether true or not, they didn't think the other schools were as good.</p>

<p>Unfortunately for current Wash U students, the student body wasn't as academically-inclined ten years ago, or twenty years ago, as it is today.</p>

<p>It will take a bit more time for perception to catch up with reality.</p>

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<p>I am not certain, but I believe that Northwestern University received slightly over 25,000 completed applications last year for undergraduate admissions. Many students apply to WashUStL due to an easy app, app fee waiver, strong academics & merit scholarships. I agree with Post #1 that WashUStL engages in very aggressive marketing & deserves an award for its prolific self promotion.</p>

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I know plenty of people who got rejected from WUSTL but into Princeton, Yale, etc

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<p>Those poor kids.</p>

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<p>"You are saying that 25% of the student body at WUSTL is composed of students with over a 1530? Why would anyone over a 1530 go to WUSTL? They most likely have several other options including the ivies with that score."</p>

<p>Why wouldn't they? It's an excellent school. Can't help it that some people wouldn't know where St. Louis was if it hit them.</p>

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Dude, you are so ignorant. My 2310 makes me one of the stupid people here.

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<p>Those two sentences being right next to each other is interesting. A number does not define your intelligence. Maybe you'll realize that a few years from now when you gain some perspective. From this thread, I see a lot of people trying to defend their school based on their stats.</p>

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FYI, my son is there. He scored a 1560/1600 (2340/2400). 2 of his 3 suitemates have higher SATs.

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<p>You know I've never actually thought about asking any of my roommates ever what their SAT's are, probably because it doesn't matter.</p>

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<p>"From this thread, I see a lot of people trying to defend their school based on their stats."</p>

<p>Well, that's bec the argument that the the thread starter used to start this discussion was based on stats. But I totally agree with your statement about number not defining one's intelligence.</p>