Decisions

<p>hey guys, i have a real dilemma right now</p>

<p>I'm deciding whether to attend Northwestern or Columbia for a masters' in chem E. From USNews, NW (17) is a lot higher than Columbia (40) for chem E. My problem is, I want to get into a consulting tyhpe of field (of a technical nature) after graduation, and Columbia's location (as well as name) seems to fit that a lot better, even though its program is not that great. On the other hand, NW's options for research are a lot broader. I have already decided that a PhD is not in my future (though an MBA maybe will be ). In terms of funding, neither is offering any. Right now I'm leaning towards Columbia because, frankly, it's in NY. Anyone familiar with these two programs please offer some advice?</p>

<p>On a side note, I'm waiting for UPenn's decision as well. Has anyone gotten any email or mail regarding Upenn? It's my top choice since it has a great program and also is in an ideal location. However, the deadline for Columbia is April 15th ,and I'm really afraid that if UPenn doesn't come by then I'll have to commit to Columbia in order to at least get my foot in the door of one university.</p>

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<p>anyone have any input into this???</p>

<p>If you are interested in consulting, why not secure a consulting job right after graduation? And maybe after several years of experience, get an MBA.</p>

<p>Hey, oddly enough, I'm in a situation similar to you gimp. getting my masters in bioengineering with no funding at my 2 top choices. I've been accepted to Rice and UPenn as my top choices. Rice is 9th, Upenn is 7th in Bioeng. As with you, I'd like to go into consulting (for a medical firm or research company). At Rice I won't be getting a thesis, however, at UPenn, I will be doing research and getting a thesis. Going into consulting, I doubt getting a thesis is really all that needed. However, the UPenn name itself (as well as the higher ranking in Bioengineering) really draws me. Money is a big factor for me, and with Rice, tuition is cheaper, and I'll be at school for a semester less amount of time (1.5 yrs vs 2 yrs). In either case, both are situated in decent to good areas for the biotech industry (Houston vs Philly). I'm also from the south (finishing my b.s. from Georgia Tech in Biomed. eng), and am not too fond of moving up north to the colder weather/and just the whole vibe of the north in general. </p>

<p>I also plan on getting an MBA in a few years, and I'm really not sure how a thesis will affect my chances of getting into an MBA (i'm guessing it won't). Does anyone know? I do, however, feel as if having a master's from UPenn (because of name recognition) will in the long run help me more for getting into a good MBA program. What do you guys think?</p>

<p>I'm leading towards UPenn at the moment, but it's really neck and neck. Any suggestions? What would some of you do? </p>

<p>Gimp: To answer your question - what kind of company do you want to work for? Northwestern is near Chicago, so it's not as if that's a bad location. I would say that Northwestern has a bigger name in terms of engineering, or if you're looking to do consulting specifically for an engineering firm. Obviously, Columbia has a bigger name otherwise. Is funding a big issue for you? If so, I'd imagine Columbia is a bit more expensive (tuition wise as well as living expense wise). I guess I'd probably choose Northwestern because of it's rank, it's in a good location near Chicago (though admittedly not quite as good as NYC), and it's likely to be cheaper since tuition is not covered. However, I'd take a look at the research that's going on at each school. If you end up working on something that you're really interested in, you can do good research and have good publications, and get good recs. So looking into the research areas at each school may help. </p>

<p>Hehe, I'm just the opposite of you. I've been admitted into UPenn bioengineering, but I'm waiting for Columbia. Though, it's obvious to me that I didn't get into Columbia based on the fact that I haven't received it, with the deadline fast approaching. But yea, UPenn was very very fast in processing my application. I submitted my master's app on 3/12, and received a decision online on 4/2.</p>

<p>seaweed: i feel getting a masters degree will open up more opportunities in the future since i want to do a startup some day.</p>

<p>gradhopeful: i feel what you're feeling right now. I am not limiting myself to just consulting for engineering firms; I would be just as happy to work for a place like Accenture. i think Northwestern's higher program ranking means it produces better quality engineers, whereas Columbia's program is more geared towards those who have perhaps an interest in not just pure engineering, but fields that can tie into that, ie finance or consulting. The same comparison I think can be said of UPenn and Rice. I went to the open house for Columbia and learned that a lot of MS chem E's choose to work in NY for non-engineering firms. THis may be because you are allowed to take a wide variety of inter-disciplinary courses as a grad student, ie business classes, med school classes, etc. (also, most of Columbia's 'MS' students are NOT required to do a thesis) I am fairly certain UPenn is like this as well, since it's a school that's more renowned for producing businessmen than engineers. Right now I'm leaning towards Columbia since, I admit, I'm rather taken in by the NYC, and both schools have comparable tuition rates (with no chance for funding from either).</p>

<p>I think since you are looking into consulting in the future, UPenn should be your choice since the difference in ranking is not that dramatic, and the alumni networking there is going to help a lot more in the long run. Finally, I wouldn't count yourself out on Columbia yet; the assistant dean (Tiffany Simon) told us during the open house that they were still in the process of admitting people.</p>