<p>Just wondered if we might be able to look at how the two factors may have interacted in the ED round........if you feel it's too personal, no need to respond. Those of you who don't mind.....could we try this?</p>
<p>Without being specific, dollar wise, can we try to get a feel of how applying for aid may have played some role in your ED decision?</p>
<p>Example: (While it may appear that I'm predicting results in this example, I'm merely suggesting a format.....)</p>
<p>SuzyQ - accepted - did not apply for aid
JohnDoe - deferred - applied for aid - needed almost full tuition to attend</p>
<p>whatever the results show here (and i suspect they'll be biased towards those who applied for aid and were deferred), there is no connection. first of all, princeton is need-blind, meaning the admissions and financial aid offices operate independently of each other, and without knowledge of the other's goings-on. granted, admissions still probably has a good idea of each applicant's financial circumstances, just through background info like zip code and parental occupations. but second, princeton is actively seeking to increase the proportion of low-income students in its student body. so if anything, the hint of such circumstances probably only betters one's chances.</p>
<p>Frozen-tears - accepted - applied for aid, didn't get any but didn't expect any either.</p>
<p>The cool thing about applying for aid even when I didn't need it was that Princeton still offered me a loan for a fixed interest rate below our national prime rate.</p>
<p>aid is a reason for your deferral, please stop it, they say they are need-blind and they are, if I had applied to Columbia with their internaion need-aware policy i would've been deferred if not out right rejected due to me needing a lot of money ** and ** being international, however, if your parents are filthy rich and pton know you will donate a lot to them later on after you graduate, it might help, bottomline, your need might help you but it won't hurt you since pton professes to be need-blind</p>
<p>Everything you wanna know about the Ivy School's correlation between fin aid and acceptance, but the adcom won't tell you.</p>
<p>If the school wants you, they are need-blinded.
However, you are the borderline student, your ability to pay full freight (or significant portion of it) does come in to play.</p>
<p>It's about time to shed off your naviettes.</p>
<p>Paying $40K a year for tuition is probably a hardship for many families, even those earning $200K before taxes, especially if the family has more than one child in college. I know Pton says they have something like 50% of their students on financial aid but keep in mind, even if the f.a. package is $500 per year, they are considered to be "on financial aid". </p>
<p>The correlation of accepted applicants seems to be high income. We all know that with higher income, better resources and opportunities are available. These include private school, tutors, college counselors, SAT prep courses, great ECs, sports, etc. Also, perhaps a stay at home parent and/or their own transportation for after school club meetings or sports practice. Believe it or not, there are some students who cannot participate in after school activities because they do not have a car or their parents cannot get off work to pick them up. </p>
<p>I do not believe I was deferred because I applied for f.a., I was deferred because my stats were too low. However, considering my family income and other variables, I think I did pretty well. Actually, I did a lot better than some students I know who had unlimited resources. Also, due to lack of money, I was forced to do things I probably would not have done otherwise. And it is because of those things I have done that has made me the person I am today. </p>
<p>I am always amazed when I see a poor student have great SAT scores and high gpa while having to work a couple of jobs, etc.</p>