Deferred Early Action from Tulane

<p>You are misunderstanding what that means. That is Tulane’s way of saying the admissions committee is going to review it, not just the admissions officer. They are making their final decisions.</p>

<p>@AL34 “Wonder if the DHS rejection email will come with the admit rejection” haha love that! </p>

<p>Still no word back from my admissions counselor on either email. After sending the second email last week, I got an automatic response stating responses would be “slower than usual” (HA – how can you be slower than unresponsive?) that directed me to the general admissions email for a faster response. I didn’t include the information about my new honor, but did I send the PTA/DHS question to the general admissions office. I have not heard back from either party.</p>

<p>Even if I were to be admitted to the Honors College at this point (and based on the posted stats from this and past years, I easily meet, if not exceed, the general Honors College acceptance trend), there is almost no way I would logistically be able to make it down for the April Honors Weekend. Flights and hotels are expensive and difficult to book at a week’s notice. After receiving another acceptance this weekend to yet another school superior to Tulane statistically speaking and in terms of my intended area of study, I am inching closer and closer to moving on. But what’s another week when this has been dragging on for four months already? </p>

<p>The community truly seems great at Tulane, with friendly students and extremely helpful parents, but I will certainly be steering my younger peers away from applying to the school in the future. The whole process has been an absolute atrocity, and I’m not just saying this as a disgruntled applicant. My guidance counselor, teacher recommenders, and my family are all downright appalled at how unprofessionally all of this has been handled, my own emotions and future aside.</p>

<p>Frankly, I’d love to even have an opinion piece published in the regional paper if I could. I understand the importance of interest. It makes sense. But it’s honestly a shame when decent schools with generous merit aid (i.e. Tulane) have such a fear of “Ivy abandonment” that they lose sight of the fact that many of their extremely qualified Ivy-level applicants simply cannot afford to attend those institutions. </p>

<p>@rowerva I wish you could hear my applause. I agree with every word you wrote above. And let’s face it. Tulane is not only fearful of being abandoned by Ivy’s but also of being abandoned in favor of their more direct competitors. As I stated a while ago by son literally has not given this a thought for months. He never wanted to go there, and he did the PTA because I made him. I’m still following this because I find it so absolutely unbelievable. I have had better communication from ENORMOUS state schools. Schools literally 5x the size of this place. My son’s guidance department will also be discouraging future applicants particularly the “high flyers” like my son from applying there. And I will also do my part to spread the word about how horrendous their admissions procedure is.</p>

<p>@rowerva, it’s a shame that the admissions process left such a negative taste in your mouth. I do hope that the admissions offices at all schools realize that they are also indirectly part of the marketing department. You should realize, however, that once you enroll you will never think about the admissions office again. That much I can guarantee you. Therefore, it would be a shame if what attracted you to Tulane in the first place-- i.e., what led you to believe it was an environment in which you could thrive academically and socially and in which you could form the foundation for your academic and career aspirations – were lost because the admissions office has acted sub-optimally. In that vein, I think that the most important questions are: (1) looking back, do you feel that the admissions office gave you ample opportunity to express that you were genuinely interested in Tulane and were prepared to enroll if admitted, your ivy level stats notwithstanding?; (2) if yes, looking back, do you believe that you availed yourself of that opportunity?; (3) if yes, looking forward, do you believe you still have time to avail yourself of that opportunity?</p>

<p>In any event, you are obviously very bright and articulate, and will likely do well academically at any of the schools to which you have been admitted. My advice at this point is to keep your eye on the big picture and not let the emotions of the admissions process compromise the clarity of your thinking. If you really wanted Tulane, perform a full court press just about now. If it was never your fop choice, then not a whole lot has been lost, except for a good deal of emotional energy.</p>

<p>Wishing you e best of luck with whatever choice you make.</p>

<p>@NJDad68 You do make a very valid point about the independence of the university experience from the admissions experience. But nonetheless, as more than “a negative taste in my mouth,” I do think it’s very difficult (at least personally) to have any level of genuine confidence that similar oversights aren’t occurring within the university’s day-to-day student services as well. Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t, but I still think the concern is legitimate and not just a swirl of emotional mumbojumbo. (I openly admit I couldn’t really bring myself to tone down my adjective choices. At the same time, I don’t think it’s fair to assume that strong diction is indicative of a flaw in logical reasoning ability.) </p>

<p>Addressing the contention about expressing interest: I’m genuinely unsure how long you’ve been following this thread – it’s hard to keep up with screen names :slight_smile: – but I had posted a while back describing my extremely sub-par admissions officer, to put it nicely. In that post, I detailed how I had maintained consistent contact, albeit a relatively one-sided conversation, attempting to demonstrate my continued interest throughout the past few months. I also thoughtfully completed the DHS project and wrote two nice essays for the PTA, which isn’t much, but at least another nudge of interest. </p>

<p>I definitely was not aiming to produce a self-righteous or entitled spiel, and by all means I know there’s a whole lot more to building a class than applicants’ numbers. That being said, I do think there are flaws in the communication, truthfulness, and reasonable translucency of the admissions procedure that a complete “clarity of thinking” cannot overlook. Going into my applications, I knew I would be happy anywhere I applied, but I had hoped, maybe naively, that the ‘give and take’ process would involve at least a little bit of ‘give’ on the part of each university. </p>

<p>And of course, everyone has different experiences on the whole spectrum, anywhere from excellent to awful, so I can’t make a binary ‘good/bad’ generalization – I’m just expressing my personal experience, which coincidentally tends to reflect that of many others on this forum. It’s a small sample size for sure, but it’s still interesting to me. </p>

<p>@rowerva - I am not going to say much about each point you bring up because you are clearly unhappy, and from what you describe you have a right to be. I would ask, though, if you have written to Faye Tydlaska, the Director of Admissions as I suggested. If you have not yet, I strongly suggest you be very specific about everything you feel fell short in the process. Perhaps you are hesitant to do this now since your decision hasn’t actually been made yet. That is totally understandable, but if you have really written Tulane off as you seem to indicate, then I think you should. I think one or two of your assumptions are not quite right, although I am not sure how important it is if you are or aren’t. Also I think there are elements of the bigger picture you are not taking into account. But as I said, clearly there are aspects to how your case has been handled that you are very frustrated with, and it seems to me before you talk about writing op-eds or anything like that, you should exhaust the chain of command, so to speak, at Tulane to see if they can give you answers that might at least modify (and mollify) your thinking.</p>

<p>@fallenchemist- I passed your advice onto my son and he sent his regional rep a final email stating once again Tulane as his first choice school. He will either put her over the edge with this his third or forth reach out or she’ll really get a sense of his desire to go to Tulane.
Having said that, how long after the portal status change should he expect to hear? It’s been about a week since the deferral notification changed to application complete and awaiting final review.<br>
Thanks again for your input.</p>

<p>You should hear something this week, since all colleges are supposed to meet an April 1 deadline. Most don’t wait until the very last day, although I suppose it is possible you might not hear until next Monday.</p>

<p>I have been following this thread for a while. I was deferred after applying SCEA. Just found out I was put on the waiting list. Good luck to everyone else.</p>

<p>This morning my son found out he was wait listed also. What is the percentage of students that end up getting in from the wait list?</p>

<p>Per Tulane’s common data set 2013-2014 - 705 students were put on the wait list and 327 were admitted off the waitlist. See C2. <a href=“http://tulane.edu/oair/upload/CDS-2013-2014-2.pdf”>http://tulane.edu/oair/upload/CDS-2013-2014-2.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Also with all other colleges requiring May 1 as the deposit date, how will June 1 be helpful? So disheartened for my son. It seems like this is not going to go in his favor any way you cut it. </p>

<p>waitlist - and still no deny letter or email about DHS. </p>

<p>Waitlist here too.-And no word on DHS. Seems to be a common theme.
So June first is the “drop dead” date?</p>

<p>@Conniesdaughter – someone more knowledgeable than me will chime in, but clearly there has to be a workable process whereby an applicant notified of getting in off the waitlist after May 1 can take advantage of the offer. My guess is that you end up losing the deposit that you’ve put down on the other college, but that it’s not viewed as unethical to accept the offer from the waitlisted school.</p>

<p>It’s probably important if/when he accepts a spot on the waitlist to somehow emphasize his continued interest to the Admissions people. Of course there’s no guarantee that, like last year, 40% of waitlisted students will be admitted. </p>

<p>Best of luck.</p>

<p>Thanks NewJersey and Asleepatthewheel. I just spoke to the admissions office and they said accept a spot somewhere else and if something becomes available they will notify my son and we would loose our deposit at the other school. Just to repeat what the counselor said: we defer candidates that we really want to come to Tulane but we are just out of spots… </p>

<p>@AL34 - If you were put on the wait list, there won’t be a denial letter.</p>

<p>To all: Just so this is clear, Tulane’s policy on the dates regarding wait lists is no different than other schools’. To know if there are spots available, they have to wait until the May 1 notification date. Then if there are spots they run down the wait list and offer spots, and the student only has a very short time to decide as one can imagine. If some of that set of students say no they go on to the next ones. This can run into June. Again, this isn’t Tulane policy per se, but common practice due to the nature of the process and the deadlines agreed to by all schools balanced against trying to reach an ideal class size.</p>

<p>I would also point out that the number of wait listed students and number of offers varies widely, especially the latter. Here are several years stats so you can see what I mean (because of the way this site eliminates spaces I had to use an underline for separation):</p>

<p>Year ________ # Offered Place on W/L _____ # Accepting Place ___ # Admitted From W/L</p>

<p>'06-'07 ______ 1313 ______________________ 944 _______________ 458
'07-'08 _______ 586 ______________________ 264 ________________ 22
'08-'09 ______ 2320 ______________________ 207 ________________ 29
'09-'10 ______ 3881 _____________________ 2081 _______________ 132
'10-'11 ______ 4617 _____________________ 2485 _______________ 105
'11-'12 ______ 3745 _____________________ 1009 ________________ 19
'12-'13 ______ 3483 ______________________ 996 _________________ 0
'13-'14 ______ 2774 ______________________ 705 _______________ 327</p>

<p>So as you can see it fluctuates a lot. There is no predicting what it will be this year.</p>

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Just to be clear, what I meant to say was that the number of wait listed students and the number admitted from the list varies widely. As you can see, from 0 to several hundred, even in adjacent years. Admissions is a strange beast.</p>

<p>Here is the latest post from Jeff Schiffman in admissions regarding being on the wait list.</p>

<p><a href=“Tulane University Admission Blog - Jeff Schiffman: Waitlist... Now what?”>http://tuadmissionjeff.blogspot.com/2012/03/waitlist-now-what.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>@fallenchemist my portal still hasn’t been update yet. Should I be worried? My friend from Florida with near perfect stats was just rejected and he did the why tulane essay. Should I be worried that I am going to have a similar fate? </p>