Deferred students of Case post your stats here. Also do you guys know if Case rejected EA/ED applicants?
Interesting that you did not post your stats in a thread requesting others in your situation to post theirs.
Yes, I was rejected as an ED applicant.
what were ur stats?
My daughter was deferred. I’ll admit I was surprised. Could be helpful to get feedback.
Objective:
ACT (breakdown): 35 C, 36 E, 35 M, 35 R, 32 S
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):3.96 (has received on B in her high school career)
Weighted GPA:4.34
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): n/a
AP (place score in parenthesis): AP Euro (4), AP US (4) - hadn’t sent these yet
IB (place score in parenthesis): n/a
Senior Year Course Load: Junior and Senior year are all college classes. Will have 5 college CS classes done by graduation, most likely all As.
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): National Merit Commended
Subjective:
Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Lost of arts and academic clubs, community theater since 2nd grade, set design, costume design and sewing, etc.
Job/Work Experience: Law Office Assistant two summers
Volunteer/Community service: tons of volunteer work
Summer Activities: took English class in England
Essays (rating 1-10, details): Well written, but cliche topic (mom’s opinion)
Recommendations (rating 1-10, details):
Teacher Rec #1: AP Euro 10/10
Teacher Rec #2: CS Professor, unknown, but she really likes my daughter
Counselor Rec:, unknown
Additional Rec:
Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes
Intended Major: Computer Science
State (if domestic applicant): Kentucky
Country (if international applicant): USA
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Female
Income Bracket: ?? NPC < $15k
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Accepted to STEM high school where they take all college classes at state university their junior and senior years. Will graduate with 60+ college credits. Female in CS?
Reflection
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: Not sure. Uninteresting common app essay? Too much financial need? Too few ECs?
We did visit, 6 hour drive distance.
I have no idea…but I wonder if having 60 credits and being half way done with credits is a reason…credits they may not take? or if basically if she is like a transfer? I
@bopper We definitely weren’t assuming they’d accept all those credits (maybe even none). She’s fully prepared to start fresh and just have the benefit of having taken some of the classes before. Also many of the students at her school, who are able to transfer most of these credits to the school they’re attending, work towards a second major or minor. She is definitely going in for a full four years. The counselor’s recommendation typically explains the program, but I’m not sure if it was ever explicitly explained that she’d graduate with 60 credits. Who knows. I read where they are now Need Aware. I’m wondering if that might be at least part of the issue for my daughter.
@alliblues Regardless of whether it may be need aware admissions or large number of college credits, a central message to your daughter should be to commend her on her excellent record and drive to take that many college courses. Certainly she can submit updates, etc. to show continued interest (others on this forum are better for providing guidance in this area), but she will do well in college with that drive: it’s just a matter of her finding the right place. Best regards, and let us know where she chooses to go!
@bopper with regards to those high-stats kids being deferred, how does their selected major play into the decision? I understand that Case has the one-door policy, but do you think they weigh heavily the student’s indicated major (popular ones in particular like BME, CS)?
@NovaMom93 I have no insight into the actual selection process, but I would imagine that if you have fifty 35 ACT piano playing pre-med Biomedical Engineering applicants you might make sure you have some accounting and english majors too and might not take all 50 of the biomed majors.
Thanks @“Idaho Father” !
Interesting criticism above. I’m sorry PP had a bad experience at Case. However, CWRU is well-known for many programs, including CS. Here’s the Final Destination Survey from the Class of 2017. CS majors in particular seem to do pretty well for themselves: https://students.case.edu/career/resources/survey/doc/2017fds.pdf
@alliblues: I think the fact that you were in need of financial aid played the biggest factor in your daughter being deferred. It sucks, but that’s the reality now.
Case is now need aware so I agree that it’s possible the financial aid need was part of the decision. At the same time, our experience with DD’s friends last cycle was that the STEM majors seems more competitive for admission. She had a friend with similar stats to your daughter get deferred and then wait listed.
@ansr89 Keep in mind that you can get a B.S. or a B.A. in Computer Science at Case.
If you get a BS, yes, you need Chemistry, etc.
If you get a BA, you don’t.
http://bulletin.case.edu/schoolofengineering/elecengcompsci/#undergraduatetext (scroll way down)
@ansr89 She did apply to Purdue as well. We hear from them in about a week. Our state school, UK, is a pretty great school and has a good CS program.
@ansr89 of course. There are myriad reasons to choose a school. Job placement is only one of many factors. There isn’t “one college” that will ensure a successful career/life for any student. We believe our kids can achieve their goals at many places. For us, our state schools at fantastic — But is likely not the right environment for our D. You do you.
@ansr89 MIT, Caltech and other top universities require science core subjects for a CS degree , actually more science than CWRU requires-- biology, chemistry and physics is required for every degree program. There is a reason to take science: helps students who want exciting jobs like bioinformatics, or theoretical biophysics, or computational chemistry.
And for everyone else, they can now read the NY Times Science page and understand it.
Also think about policy positions and degrees, that may need science knowledge as well.
In addition, look at Columbia University Core and U of Chicago Core. those are broader cores that require western civilization and/or philosophy classes to get a degree in computer science !
The students we know at Case got offers at Microsoft, Yelp and Google. They did well and also had options for a five year masters degree in computer science with FUNDING for the fifth year.
CWRU also is offering a masters in data science degree, similar to UC Berkeley’s new degree program or Purdue’s data science program.
The advantages of going to Case Western over say Purdue and UIUC might be - cost less for than OOS costs at these higher ranked midwestern flagship schools, smaller class size, easier to make friends at CWRU compared to being OOS at UIUC and not in a Chicago high school clique already, and easier to get TA work at Case in CS, one can live on campus all 4 years, and Cleveland really is much more to do, such as professional sports, top professional orchestra, top art museums, clubbing, eating out, etc, than West Lafayette Indiana or Urbana Illinois. Its also much easier and less expensive to fly to Cleveland and take a train to campus, than try to get to small towns in IN or IL where one has to bus, and wait around in Indianapolis, etc to catch that bus.
For an Indiana or Illinois resident though, their in state flagship will work out less expensive, and have a higher rank in CS, than CWRU.
Our son felt Case was a better experience than our in state flagship, CU Boulder, only 20 minutes from home, and really not much more expensive given the merit awards. Its nice to get out of Dodge (Boulder) and see the world, from a new perspective (Cleveland).
Daughter was deferred by Case, but accepted to Purdue for computer science. Now we wait to see if we can afford it. We’re in Kentucky so both are OOS for us.