<p>It's difficult to get accepted to Penn. That's a given. But they have many different programs and the degree of difficulty varies. Here's how I gauge them, from most difficult to least difficult (not counting 7-year dentist degree):</p>
<ol>
<li> LSM</li>
<li> Hunstman</li>
<li> Jerome Fisher</li>
<li> Wharton</li>
<li> SEAC</li>
<li> Nursing</li>
<li> DMD</li>
<li> CAC</li>
</ol>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
<ol>
<li>Hunstman</li>
<li>Jerome Fisher</li>
<li> LSM
4.Wharton</li>
<li>CAS</li>
<li>SEAC</li>
<li>DMD</li>
<li>Nursing</li>
</ol>
<p>There are the sort of lists I like.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>LSM – only 25 accepted; most applicants are from US. You have to be a beast at management and a hard science, with some legitimate research experience. Hard to find students who meet these requirements.</p></li>
<li><p>Jerome Fisher – about 50 students; have to be beasts at math and science; smartest kids on campus.</p></li>
<li><p>Huntsman – about 50 students; about half the program are internationals. Foreign language fluency a must but most have learned this language through parents, so I am less impressed than LSM and JF. </p></li>
<li><p>Wharton – around 500 admitted, but competing against tons of legacies and extremely well connected people; very tough for ordinary folks. </p></li>
<li><p>SEAC – less intense JFers.</p></li>
<li><p>Nursing – If your smart enough to get into Penn, why nursing?</p></li>
<li><p>DMD – smart dorks who love comic books. </p></li>
<li><p>CAC – the rest of us</p></li>
</ol>
<p>I don’t see why Huntsman is harder than M&T. Also, why are you calling SEAS and CAS SEAC and CAC? Also, SEAS is in general considered harder than Wharton. Also, you do not necessarily have to be a “beast” at math and science to be in M&T, if by beast you mean serious mathematics. You just pretty much have to have near perfect scores. That doesn’t mean you can do proofs. Finally, I don’t think Huntsman is harder than SEAS.</p>
<p>Sorry, dude. I was just cutting and pasting. You knew what I meant though, eh? </p>
<p>No way Huntsman is harder than JF but I do think its harder to get into than SEAS. SEAS is harder academically once you’re in, but getting into Huntsman is really tough. It’s a flagship thing. I read an article on some football dude recruited by big SEC schools, but he said he’d go to Penn if he got into Huntsman. I think a lot of stud athletes, kids of politicans/foreign dignitaries, etc. apply to Huntsman. Huntsman also carries a lot of cache for grad schools.</p>
<p>I guess we’re leaving BFS/JWS off the list because they choose you, not vice versa…</p>
<p>However, consider that to get BFS, you’re competing with the ENTIRE SCHOOL (not just the kids applying into your program). This has to be the most selective.</p>
<p>Bleh. CAS is harder to get into then Nursing.</p>
<p>Lol @ necrophiliac’s subtle bragging xD</p>
<p>Euroazn you seem to be a bit of a dick. Congrats</p>
<p>I’m not sure it’s possible to brag when you’re a necrophiliac.</p>
<p>you guys forgot about nursing and healthcare management!</p>
<p>it’s a bit odd to brag if you didn’t know about the existence of the program until you were invited into it. Kinda takes away from the feeling that it was an accomplishment.</p>
<p>But in any event, all of these difficulty ratings are arbitrary. Penn engineering is a joke to get into…if you’re sick-nasty at science and math. Wharton is an auto-admit…if your dad donates x,000,000 to build an auditorium. How do you judge these things? Admits/ number of applicants? I don’t know of too many kids applying into the M&T program and stuff. If like 150 apply and 30 get in, does that make it a 20% acceptance rate? So Wharton > Wharton+Engi?</p>
<p>
I’m sure with all your college admissions experience as a California high school student, you have a very special insight into which of the UPenn colleges are the most competitive.</p>
<p>you all forgot about vag mls, that’s definitely #1</p>
<p>I feel like applicants view Huntsman very differently than people at Penn (judging by the huge number of “Chance me for Huntsman” threads). No doubt it’s hard to get into, but like…a lot of the people are rich internationals, or have had the privilege of traveling around the world and learning a random language. I’m just a freshman, but I think Huntsman loses its “luster” with most people pretty quickly once they meet the 10th European Huntsman kid who went to an international school in Beijing or whatever.</p>
<p>Pretty much everyone acknowledges that M&T people are beasts though. There’s even a M&T person in our JWS class. I don’t know him very well, but I just assume that he’s ****ing brilliant.</p>
<p>I think that Old College Try’s list is pretty spot on. Maybe SAS right below engineering though. Vag MLS would definitely be up there but it’s invite only.</p>
<p>edit: is this about the difficulty of the program or the difficulty of getting in?</p>
<p>aglages, one doesn’t need to experience something first hand to have an opinion. Wouldn’t you agree? For example, I’ve never met you but I’m certain I wouldn’t like you.</p>
<p>^^ I agree… I could be a highschool student in Sri Lanka and would still be able to objectively say that Brown is more competitive than Northwestern.</p>
<p>actually yeah i read this as difficulty of program, once matriculated</p>
<p>if we’re talking difficulty of acceptance, that’s a slightly different story</p>
<p>Does anyone know the criteria for admission into Vag MLS?</p>
<p>
It’s a slightly different story.</p>