<p>I'm not looking for numbers of people who applied and those accepted. I just want to know what it takes to get into Huntsman or LSM? Some of you guys have already been accepted early action so what scores did you have and what types of background. Is it alot harder than CAS? I'm a junior and am curious if I should even consider applying next year. Also how many people get in early action versus regular?</p>
<p>If you apply for a dual degree program, you can also choose to be considered for one of the schools in which the program is located if you do not get into the dual degree program. In your case, you would choose either Wharton or CAS as your second choice. Penn follows an early decision plan which is binding, but there are special procedures for dual degree applicants that I believe are given on the Penn supplement to the Common App. So either way, it doesn’t hurt to apply (but there is an additional essay). You still get the same amount of consideration for your second choice. This is according to my regional representative. Good luck!</p>
<p>Thx poeme. Do you know anything about the people actually being admitted? Take the average person admitted to CAS an an example. Are those admitted to Huntsman/LSM 105% more amazing? 150%? 500%? </p>
<p>I’m just trying to get a feel for the people getting into the dual degree programs. I have several friends who were admitted CAS so I have a good idea about what it takes to get into Penn but I don’t know anyone who’s been accepted into the dual degree programs. I’m just trying to get a sense of what it takes to make it there. Pretty soon I have to make a decision about my summer jobs, ECs, etc. and if I think I can swing it I will try to tailor my remaining activities to enhance my chances for the dual degree programs. But if you have to have a parent who’s won the Nobel Prize or donated a building to the school, or if the applicant first has to cure some awful disease to get in or something like that, I’ll focus on something else. Thx.</p>
<p>Have any of your friends been accepted into wharton? that might be a better comparison but know that dual degree programs are harder to get in than wharton, how much more I’m not sure. M&T and huntsman admits are at least on par with harvard admits (I think).</p>
<p>Wharton admits are on par with Harvard admits, M&T admits are above and beyond both.</p>
<p>^I don’t know any Wharton admits either. Wish I did. But doesn’t Wharton take like 300 undergrads? LSM takes 25 and Huntsman takes 50 so it has to be even harder than Wharton right? Thx for the input. Any others out there?</p>
<p>I am a Wharton admit. The only school I was seirously considering along with Wharton was Harvard. Then Stanford, Princeton, MIT, Yale, and Columbia in that order. </p>
<p>Wharton is incredibly selective; I would not be suprised if the admit rate if 6% or so this year. Wharton takes like 500ish undergrads (I am not 100% sure on that figure though). It has an 80% yield. To put that in context, Princeton has a 60% Yield, Yale has a 69% yield, and Harvard has a 76% yield. </p>
<p>LSM, Huntsman, and M&T are all far harder to get into than Wharton; I did not even dare apply, even though I felt I had a great shot at all of the schools I mentioned above. You better be made of some special sauce to get into these programs, they are the most selective in the world for a reason.</p>
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<p>Well The undergraduate program typically receives about 5,500 applications a year of which about 650 are admitted. Admit rate is 650/5500 = 12 %
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<p>Harvard Stanford Yale Princeton Columbia MIT have lower admit rate that wharton.</p>
<p>Median starting salaries for Wharton graduates are second only to MIT’s Sloan School of Business. It looks like MIT sloan grads are doing better than Wharton grad</p>
<p>hey german_car, would you please stop ■■■■■■■■ the UPenn forum? Thanks!</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/865441-wharton-early-decision-admission-rate.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-pennsylvania/865441-wharton-early-decision-admission-rate.html</a></p>
<p>Consensus is that the Wharton acceptance rate is ~6-8%</p>
<p>@OP: Apply to Huntsman of M&T if you want to. Even though they are extremely selective, it won’t hurt your chances of admittance at your second choice school if you get rejected.</p>
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You are wrong !</p>
<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/UnderGrad/Next-Step/FAQ.htm#Q6]FAQ[/url”>http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/UnderGrad/Next-Step/FAQ.htm#Q6]FAQ[/url</a>]</p>
<p>about 5500 applicants, 650 admitted and 500 matricualted.</p>
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<p>Regular Decision Statistics
3,938 applied to the Wharton
(accepted ) 475 to Wharton</p>
<p>Regular Decision Admit Rate is 475/3938 =12.06 %</p>
<p>Early Application
All Upenn schools : 4148 applied 1180 accepted : EA admit rate for all upenn is 1180/4148= 28.5%
wharton EA admitted 202 student and the number of applicant is unknown. </p>
<p>Since EA admit rate is always higher than RA admit rate, wharton admit rate for 2010 is about 12.06% + about 2% = 14% admit rate.</p>
<p>The total number of admitted student at Wharton is 475+202=676.</p>
<p>On the contrary, the same FAQ references the Class of 2008 in the last question - which means that the page probably hasn’t been updated in almost 6 years.</p>
<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/UnderGrad/Next-Step/FAQ.htm#Q28]FAQ[/url”>http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/UnderGrad/Next-Step/FAQ.htm#Q28]FAQ[/url</a>]</p>
<p>Again, please stop ■■■■■■■■ when you obviously don’t know what you are talking about - it’s annoying and reflects poorly on your intelligence.</p>
<p>Please stop spreading false informations.
Overall UPen admit rate stays about 16-17% range for classes of 2010 to 2013.
It is very reasonable to guess that wharton admit rate stays at 14% for the same classes.</p>
<p>I am not the one “spreading false informations”</p>
<p><em>sigh</em></p>
<p>I’d appreciate it if you actually read my prior post where the dean of admissions said in 2006 that the Wharton admit rate was 8-9%. That was 4 years ago. Current application numbers to Penn have increased by ~30% since then. If Wharton actually had a 14% acceptance rate now, the size of Wharton would have had to increase by ~130% in the past 4 years. (100(.08)=8, 130(.14)=18.2)</p>
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You are WRONG again !!</p>
<p>This web site was updated in 2009. FAQ shows the starting salary of class 2008 which was reported in year 2009 , AND number of application recevied in year 2009.</p>
<p>Undergrad business program admissions managed by:</p>
<p>The university admissions office</p>
<p>Total undergraduate business program applicants, 2009-10:
5,062 </p>
<p>Applicants admitted to undergraduate business program, 2009-10:
11 % </p>
<p>Admitted applicants enrolled in undergrad business program, 2009-10:
76 % </p>
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<p>German_car, you are CORRECT.</p>
<p>You have defeated me. Your incredibly logical arguments have made me realize that Wharton is extremely easy to get into.</p>
<p>I understand now that I misread that FAQ answer, and since that one question was either updated in 2008 or 2009 (I lack the intelligence to be sure which year exactly) every other answer on that page simply MUST be from 2009.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I’ve discovered that the true acceptance rate is not 12% (as you first boldly declared) or 14%, (as you later persuasively argued) or 11% (as you later sagely suggested) but rather 15.5%! And for nursing the admit rate is 42.6%!</p>
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<p>If only I would have known all this earlier - UPenn truly is unworthy of being called an Ivy league school…and that’s why I should have chose Yale.</p>
<p>hahaha enigma german car is obviously a ■■■■■ and on being rejected by Penn he has decided to take revenge by posting nonsensical posts! the admit rate is definitely abt 6-8% and if german car has a problem with it i have shown it below-</p>
<p>since penn wants a class size of approx 2400 and a similar wharton class size too, the number of undergrads targeted in the wharton class is likely to be 475. Also, approximately 28% of all applicants to Penn apply to Wharton and thus of the 26800 applicants approx 6900 will be wharton applicants. since whartons yield is approx 80%, most likely 593 students will be accepted thus finally leading to a admit rate of 8ish%</p>
<p>Anyways to answer takedowns original question and to completely ignore german cars idiotic behavior, i would like to state that i have been accepted into the huntsman class of 2014 and my parents dont rule a country or are from penn or have donated money. my sat is 2230 which is pretty much average and i am not the valedictorian or salutatorian of my class. i am definitely in the top 5% and have demonstrated leadership via social service/sports and political activities but havent done anything spectacular. My essays is one part which i think were excellent and maybe if yu would like to read them i will send them over. however, dont get discouraged and give it ur best shot. u dont have to be the smartest guy ever or the richest to get into huntsman! u just have to be good in studies and have an overall personality which kinda complements a passion for business and IR (im not saying that business/IR oriented extracurriculars are a MUST but theyre definitely helpful). also u have to be clever enough to avoid jerks like german car. </p>
<p>moreover, as per my knowledge abt 24 people of the 50 member class have been admitted ED with the remaining being admiteed RD. if you are sure that you wanna do huntsman (like absolutely certain) then apply ED as that will give u a better shot too. nevertheless i believe that possibly in ED u will compete against better applicants too so its ur call but i would recommend ED. also the beauty abt huntsman is that u can still choose a single choice so u (in a way) have to shots for Penn. </p>
<p>hope this helped</p>
<p>fire away any further questions regarding this guys (except german car- u should seriously get a life or go to a forum where your actually wanted)</p>
<p>German_car, </p>
<p>every single piece of data you referenced of from the same unreliable source: Businessweek. LOL!</p>
<p>Considering that Wharton and Harvard found the businessweek rankings to be so **** that they withdrew from them and do not provide them with any information I wonder where all of their data comes from? Right out of thier ass that’s where. The truth of the matter is Businessweek just made up Wharton’s average SAT score, acceptance rate, yield, and everything else that they reference. It is a ******** list.</p>
<p>This is the same magazine that claims that ND and UVA are better than Wharton and MIT undergrad, and Chicago’s MBA is better than Harvard, Stanford and Wharton’s MBAs; take that to any recruiter at Goldman and like firms and they will laugh your ass out of the door. </p>
<p>So let me get this straight, you reference an unreliable magazine and then cite its figures as if they are fact; (and you cite numerous different figures that contradct with each other) and then you use these figures from one source to try to belittle a school that rejected you? Not very smart. No wonder Wharton and Princeton rejected you.</p>
<p>Hey German_Car where do you go to college? I want to know for two reasons. One, I don’t want to go there. Two, I’m a wrestler and my team may end up at your school one day and I’d like to invite you onto the mat where I can address your small man complex. </p>
<p>Thx for the legitimate information. kafkareborn and akkipenn were very helpful.</p>