<p>I've been in the community bathrooms and know what those are like but i have no idea what to expect in the DeNeve bathrooms........do we have to buy all our own bathrooms supplies? like liquid hand soap, bath rugs, etc...Anyone who has lived in the plazas before what did you have to get for your bathroom? Also is there storage space below the sink? kind of like household bathrooms......thx for any answers ^_^</p>
<p>i dont know for sure, but i'm guessing they will provide toilet paper and thats it.</p>
<p>Yes, you have to buy your own personal bathroom supplies. However, the De Neve cleaning staff does come into your bathroom on a weekly basis to clean the bathroom and resupply the toilet paper as well as the garbage bags which are kept under the sink.</p>
<p>so there are trash cans in their right? or do we have to buy that too?</p>
<p>every room has a trash can, and I would assume there is another one in the bathrooms of the plazas.</p>
<p>how big are the bathrooms exactly?</p>
<p>Thin floors, walls can make rooms uncomfortable for UCLA students</p>
<p>UCLA Daily Bruin November 2002 news article
<a href="http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/articles.asp?ID=21465%5B/url%5D">http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/articles.asp?ID=21465</a></p>
<p>By Jessica Chung and Amy Frye
DAILY BRUIN REPORTER
<a href="mailto:jchung@media.ucla.edu">jchung@media.ucla.edu</a>
<a href="mailto:afrye@media.ucla.edu">afrye@media.ucla.edu</a></p>
<p>In most dorms, students either have to use phones or go into the hallways to talk to their floormates. Students in De Neve said they can talk to their neighbors through the walls. </p>
<p>"When you go to the bathroom and open the medicine cabinet, you can practically have a normal conversation with the people next door," said second-year biology student Nicole Lang. </p>
<p>When asked if he received complaints about noise in De Neve, Alan Hanson, director of the Office of Residential Life, said "no one has contacted me directly ... but I wouldn't suggest that (the problem) isn't real." </p>
<p>He said noise in residential-hall-type living is an ongoing problem. </p>
<p>"The sense I have about what I have heard is that the experience people are having may or may not be related to wall conditions," Hanson said. </p>
<p>No matter what the cause, students said the ability to hear what's going on next door, especially in the bathrooms, can make it difficult for students to live comfortably and normally in De Neve. </p>
<p>"I turn on the shower when I'm in the bathroom because the people next door can hear everything. The people downstairs are loud too," said first-year psychobiology student Anthony Nguyen. </p>
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<p>Whereas students in other residential halls can play instruments, generally without the music being carried to the next room, De Neve musicians often receive complaints from their neighbors, or even from the people living beneath them or above them, residents said. </p>
<p>The volume of the sounds from radios, televisions and computers is also often considered too loud for studious neighbors. </p>
<p>Certain rooms in De Neve have a more difficult time with loud noises than other rooms. Those located next to the stairs, the lounge or the trash chute have added noises that seep through the walls daily, residents said. </p>
<p>"We live next to the stairs, so we can hear people running up and talking. It sounds like pounding. And people from the study lounges knock on the wall and lean their chairs up against the wall. The people above us fall off their beds in the morning and wake me up," said second-year Japanese student Jason Kawamoto. </p>
<p>Residents with rooms beneath them as well as above them also seem to have more to deal with than those who live on the lowest or highest floors. </p>
<p>"We don't make any noise, and we try to be really quiet, but the people downstairs complain, and it's not even us (who are being loud). It's the people above us. We were just sitting on the bed and the people beneath us started complaining," said first-year business economics student Priscilla Park. </p>
<p>"It's hard to tiptoe all the time," she added. </p>
<p>Even though complaints are numerous, there are still those students who accept it as a part of dorm life. </p>
<p>"We try to be good about keeping quiet: we don't jump off the beds. We go down the sides. And people are pretty good about the volume of their music," said first-year chemical engineering student Michael Wahl. </p>
<p>"It's funny because we hear what the people next door to us say about us," said first-year business economics student Ricky Bueno. </p>
<p>Noise may not be such a problem within the floor corridors. Hanson said he has heard that Resident Assistants on rounds sometimes have a hard time determining where noise is coming from when they answer complaints. </p>
<p>"We know that at least the doors to the corridors are doing a pretty good job of disguising where the source of the noise is coming from," he said. </p>
<p>Some residents in halls other than De Neve don't notice noise as a problem. </p>
<p>"I've only received a complaint once, when someone told me to turn my music off. The noise hasn't gotten to the point where I have trouble getting to sleep," said first-year English student Nathan Weatherford, a Delta Terrace resident. </p>
<p>"Most of the noise comes from above us. As far as adjacent walls, we can't hear anything. It's not that much of a burden to live through, and it's not to the point where we have to complain," said first-year molecular, cellular and developmental biology student Patricia Calimlim, a Canyon Point resident. </p>
<p>"We can't hear normal, everyday activities. We can't even hear them if they're laughing really loud. I can only hear noises if our next door neighbors close their doors really loud," said first-year computer science student Christine Wang, a Hedrick resident. </p>
<p>Some students compare their De Neve experience to other residence halls. </p>
<p>"We can hear people running up the stairs and through the hallways above us. People don't think about who's below them. It's pretty bad, but De Neve was a little worse because their walls seemed thinner," said second-year cybernetics student Elliot Lee, a Canyon Point resident, who lived in De Neve last year. </p>
<p>Even if De Neve residents are experiencing more problem than other residents, they have not expressed this to housing. </p>
<p>"In our quality of life survey each spring, De Neve came up better rated than some of the other residential halls," Hanson said.</p>
<p>I guess I'm lucky, because I lived on a mostly pre-med/biz-econ floor in De Neve and never had any problems with hearing any noise through the walls. The bathrooms are about 6 feet by 8 feet - they don't have a trash can, though; I just used the main trash can instead (by default, it's placed right next to the bathroom door anyways).</p>
<p>...this article kinda scares me cause im going to be living in de neve...</p>
<p>do they give you shower curtains? or is it glass doors?</p>
<p>good thing i sleep thru almost anything and dont live in De Neve :rolleyes:</p>
<p>also BRING A HEADPHONE TO UCLA! unless its a hall party no one should crank up their music to 90 dB</p>
<p>psh whatever - i love my music and play it as loud as I damn well please :)</p>
<p>actually, there were some people on my floor in Sproul who would crank up their nice Klipsch system superloud and point the speakers out the window toward Covel. It was actually nice to have some good music to walk to lol. If you need silence to study, it's entirely likely that you'll have to find a place outside the dorms.</p>
<p>5.1 speakers all the way ;)</p>
<p>Oh Klipsch!!! Oooo ahhhh. haha...but I like logitech's z5500 heh but to each their own.</p>
<p>fine. imma crank up my music too. im sure u have a bad taste in music Icarus!</p>
<p>The showers have glass doors.
Also, yes, you should bring headphones/earphones for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>lol my taste is impeccable ;)</p>
<p>and yes, Logitech makes some nice speakers (i use logitech speakers, actually - unfortunately, not the 5.1 setup... that would be sweet for movies and such). I'm saving up for a Dell 2405FPW 24" widescreen LCD at the moment, so you'll see my computer before you hear it :p</p>
<p>"...this article kinda scares me cause im going to be living in de neve..."</p>
<p>ayaneko, there is nothing to be scared of. when you go home for the holidays, and you are sitting at Starbucks or somewhere with your old hs friends sharing war stories about college life, everyone will laugh with you as you talk about your De Neve experiences...</p>
<p>haha...wow. I know some 2405fpw deals :-P. around 800ish shipped. As for myself, I have a 2005fpw just 4 inches or so less diagonally compared to the 2405fpw. I highly recommend both monitors (widescreen..mmm). If you're into gaming, definitely get the 2005fpw. I heard that the 2405 has some prorblems but that was probably with an old revision of the monitor. but wow..the 2405 is soooo nice....haha</p>
<p>Icarus, mayube i should check out your comp and you can check out my comp</p>
<p>Ah yes, I'm still kinda considering the 2005 - its so much cheaper and I would have more money to spend on other upgrades. But the 2405 is just so beautiful in its massiveness :). I don't game too much - just some CS-Source and such (which has a WS setting) - I mostly watch movies/multitask, which is why the extra real estate would be appreciated. But I'm interested in your thoughts on the 2005 - how is it overall? Do you think it's a little too short height-wise (a common complaint I've heard)?</p>
<p>BTW, where are the current $800-ish deals? I can't find any right now :(</p>