<p>I'm okay with that. If someone wants to go around and research every number near 1965 then hey power to them. That's some flattering dedication to my fine ass.</p>
<p>hmm...my lotto number is almost as bad; i think i'm going off campus as a result.</p>
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The more I read about it the more I think that summer transfer is my best shot. As a 20/2965 rising junior what sort of decision can I expect?
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since it goes by seniority and then by REVERSE lottery number, you'll be one of the first juniors to get summer-transferred. but to be in the system, you have to have something to trade - so be sure to pick something, even if it's a wien single or even a mcbain blind double.</p>
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Do they offer you options in the summer transfer (single, double, building...) or is it just a definitive housing assignment sent to you by email? (I have a wet dream of getting a Watt studio through some twist o' the summer transfer system)
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You can submit a transfer request being as specific or as general as you want. You can say any arbitrary parameters of the room you want - "facing north, at least 3 doors from an elevator and my RA has to be a cute chick" if you really want to be silly about it - but the more specific you get, the less likely it is that you'll get matched. so i'd only specify things that are really important to you. most sophomores will put "Any single! seriously, any single at all!" as their request... and then some will add "but, you know, i'd be happier with one of the large 200sf+ schapiro doubles, if that's all you can do for me".</p>
<p>Here's how the algorithm works. </p>
<p>1) Laura Taranto or whoever's down there doing assignments these days takes all the sheets for all the summer transfer requests, and sorts them in priority order. that's by seniority, then by reverse lottery number for the requester. seniors with the worst numbers are first in line, up to seniors with the best numbers, then juniors with the worst numbers... etc.</p>
<p>2) Next to that, she's got a list of all available rooms. many become available for a lot of reasons, i won't bore you with a list.</p>
<p>3) She checks the first sheet's request parameters to see if it matches an open room. if it does, she moves the guy into that room, and adds his old room to the new list of possible rooms. marks his request as completed, emails him about it, and discards him from the to-do pile.</p>
<p>4) She then proceeds likewise through the queue of transfer requests. If at any point she can't fill a transfer request, it gets skipped in the pile until either someone happens to give up a room (via transfer or cancellation) that fits their requirements, or the process ends and they're stuck where they are.</p>
<p>5) The list of available rooms thus waxes and wanes... one senior who upgrade rooms percolates his room down to a junior, who upgrades and trades his room down to a sophomore, who trades his room down to someone on the sophomore wait list or the nonguaranteed waitlist.</p>
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Also....What's Plimpton? I didnt' even know we could sign up for summer housing as a group...
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yeah, you can request to be transferred, as a group, to any 'suite' that's been held out of the lottery. Among the suites held out of the lottery are the 6-person Ruggles suites, certain RA suites or handicapped suites, etc... sort of a strategic reserve. and within that strategic reserve are actually suites in Barnard dorms, believe it or not.</p>
<p>the way it works is, BC students can opt into the CU housing lottery (as part of groups in which they are not the majority - see the rules), and CU students can opt into the BC housing lottery if they want to live with their barnard friends and live in barnard dorms. But because more BC students live at CU than vice versa, Barnard always ends up owing Columbia the net difference in beds. And that difference is paid out of barnard's available housing stock, typically in suites reserved in 616 W 116th, and in Plimpton. </p>
<p>Plimpton is on Amsterdam between 120th and 121st and it's awesome. I personally lived there for not one but TWO years (soph + jr). it has 4 ample-sized singles (115-120sf), and one MONSTER single of ~170sf on the corner - so big that barnard has started using it as a double for some of their students. The suite bathroom is nice - sliding glass doors for the shower - and you get a kitchen and central air conditioning. The building has really beautiful lounges on the ground floor, and you're right next door to Appletree supermarket. You're also literally across the street from Mudd, and can walk into the maintenance entrance to campus at 119th and amsterdam to shortcut into a lot of buildings.</p>
<p>Anyway, yeah, it's a good option - but be sure to talk to Housing first to determine (A) whether there will be Barnard suites available for summer transfer, (B) whether they will include Plimpton, (C) whether they still treat Plimpton as 5-singles suites, and (D) what they anticipate for the seniority of the groups who will get it.</p>
<p>it's sort of a stealth option, not very well-publicized (strategic reserve!), so it can make for a really great surprise. i used a stealth transfer into plimpton to solve my sophomore housing problems, and ended up with the Big Room for two years there. Put in a good oriental rug, stole a second bed during move-in day and essentially ended up with a Romp Room. As nice a bachelor pad as it gets for college :)</p>
<p>Ok, the gf is calling... best of luck to yas.</p>
<p>And that ladies and gentlemen, is why I chose Denzera. </p>
<p>Hot damn. Look at you giving me hope of newfound life next year. :)</p>
<p>Similar question: My lottery number is 10/700-something. Does anyone have any idea whether I might have a chance of getting a single in General Selection? I've been advised to take cutoff histories with a handful of grains of salt.</p>
<p>only single you might get is furnald. Wien is historically rather unlikely. Take a look at cutoff histories for furnald and decide what % chance you have, and then what your likely Group Selection choice is. how big a group are you in?</p>
<p>also....count the number of people ahead of you....all 700s aren't created equal! one year 700 might be the 100th number for rising sophomores and the next it could be the 500th number. If the # of people ahead of you is greater than the number of singles in furnald then you should be careful otherwise if the # of people is less than the number of singles then you're golden.</p>
<p>Plus Furnald is getting converted into an all-freshman dorm, isn't it? They're shoving at least some of the extra 50 freshman in there, I know that. So that lowers Furnald chances significantly. ><</p>
<p>I'm not in a group, actually—my plans all collapsed. Given that there are about 34 rising sophomores ahead of me who are going straight to General Selection, and that some people who registered as suites but got great lottery numbers might drop down to get singles, and that 25 more freshmen are going to be living in Furnald next year (at least, I think that's what Spec said), I don't think I have much chance.</p>
<p>But hey, maybe my not-entirely-horrible number will keep me away from McBain's shaft?</p>
<p>i'm guessing you can end up in a blind schapiro walk-through double </p>
<p>registering for general selection when you are a sophomore is extremely risky...you should at least register with someone you wouldn't mind living with rather than having to choose into a room with someone you probably won't know</p>
<p>Oh, I know what I'm in for. I'm not going to go through the whole story of how I ended up in General Selection, but it wasn't entirely by choice. Believe me, I'm not holding my breath for anything good.</p>
<p>well, with 10/700, you definitely should expect a decent return, by sophomore standards.</p>
<p>The thing is, you have no options left. whatever is available come your appt time in General is what you'll take. You're not deciding a group size, or deciding between group and general... so I suggest taking an attitude of "it'll all work out in the end", and stop stressing about it. there is no truly bad housing on columbia's campus.</p>
<p>PLIMPTON IS TEH SECKS</p>
<p>I've been to the building and this would be a pretty great place to live. I'm curious about it, D.</p>
<p>How exactly does one go about requesting it on the summer transfer form? Do you just write Plimpton?</p>
<p>Or should you yourself "recruit" 4-5 people and apply for it? If so how? Should they all have equally crappy number or does 1 BAD number suffice?</p>
<p>I want to sleep in your old bed, Denzera!
(Some say I'm creepy; I prefer the term unique)</p>
<p>you should live with 4 friends. If they all have bad numbers, so much the better. a group summer transfer request will average the numbers, i think - although the number of 5-person groups requesting a summer transfer will be small so it may not matter much.</p>
<p>i'll repeat my suggestion that you should go into 125 wallach and talk to the housing people about it. figure out if they're still 5-person suites, figure out if they're expecting plimpton, figure out how many suites will be available, figure out how they're planning on filling them or if a summer transfer request might get you there, etc.</p>
<p>just start a relationship so there are no surprises down the line.</p>
<p>what do you think the chance is of a senior with a lottery number above 2900 (so 30/29??) to get summer transferred into a single in an EC flat?</p>
<p>Oh look, there are only 47 ECX suites left and no exclusion groups even went today. ■■■.</p>
<p>some of those may have been RA suites or handicapped suites…</p>
<p>uh…</p>
<p>yeahbuwhat?</p>
<p>Ok, S. My registration is tomorrow and euh…I was just doing some planning and there’s a room available. A room that by all account really shouldn’t be available.</p>
<p>It’s basically a double with a semi-private bathroom according to the CUWiki maps. A great housing choice. Really ridiculously great. Except that it is listed as a single on the website which keeps track of the rooms. And not yet taken.</p>
<p>I absolutely HAVE to know: Is there a map mistake or renumbering of the rooms at play here or do small doubles spontaneously become singles sometimes?</p>
<p>If so…mother may I?</p>
<p>I assume we’re talking about stuff in 600 W 113th, unless you refer to the 12th floor wien semiprivate double thingy. or a WTD in wien.</p>
<p>whatever the online system says, it’s pulled directly from the central university student database, so if it’s coded as a double in the online room selection system, it’s coded as a double in reality.</p>
<p>So…it’s not actually a single even if it’s listed as such? No double for me? :(</p>
<p>EDIT: No. Wait. It’s coded as a single in the room selection chart. Now it just has to stay vacated until 4pm tomorrow. (Whoever takes this; I’ll have your name and I will CUT you)</p>