Deterioration of UCLA

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<p>agreed. BayBoi10 has his own opinions and issues in which we should all ignore. because not only are they written in stone in his brain, but also unreliable and completely negative and cynical. I like both UCB and and UCLA so there isn’t a bias on my part.</p>

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<p>BayBoi10- Without being dragged into this debate, I just wanted to clear the air about a comment you made earlier about UCLA biochemistry. Just recently another faculty member at UCLA has been elected (in biochemistry) to the National Academy of Sciences, giving that division (Chem and Biochem being a single department at UCLA) a total of 6. UCLA biochem fell to 11, but in 2006 [Biochemistry</a> and Molecular Biology](<a href=“http://www.chemistry.ucla.edu/biochem/]Biochemistry”>http://www.chemistry.ucla.edu/biochem/) they were number 9. Chem rankings are always a little sensitive, but UCLA biochemistry is among the best in the world. That cannot be disputed. Harvard may be miles ahead in that regard, but UCSD most certainly is not. When the new rankings come out this year, I expect UCLA to be once again top 10 in biochem. If recent research is any indication, biochem at UCLA has been hot.</p>

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<p>I look forward to that happening. UCLA needs more than an amazing linguistics and film department. Also, I think we should give UCSD more credit than you give it.</p>

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<p>UCLA’s Mathematical Logic program was ranked #2 in the country by US News. Applied Math #5. Some segments of the Philosophy Department are similarly high.</p>

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<p>Everyone,</p>

<p>I would like to say that UCLA, yes UCLA, is more financially secure than Berkeley. I just researched the endowments and UCLA is more stable than Berkeley. I hope you all appreciate this. </p>

<p>University of California $4,937,483,000
Berkeley $759,283,000
UCLA $894,909,000
UCSD $281,252,000
Davis $137,198,000
Irvine $210,871,000
UCSB Could not find
UCR $62,692,000
Merced Could not find
UCSC Could not find</p>

<p>Stanford $12,619,094,000
Cal Tech $1,398,039,000
USC $2,671,426,000</p>

<p>I miss the days when Berkeley and UCLA had billions.</p>

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<p>Just noticed this on the FRONT PAGE of Yahoo (news section). I know you were concerned about this Bayboi upthread, so I thought you’d love an update.</p>

<p>[Two</a> vintage L.A. theaters saved from closure - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100331/en_nm/us_theaters]Two”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100331/en_nm/us_theaters)</p>

<p>And if you doubt that it was really on the front page, I was impressed enough to take a screen shot.</p>

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<p>That’s good news. Those two theaters may not be new or fancy compared to the new megaplexes, but they sure are great cultural landmarks.</p>

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<p>BayBoi10, those aren’t the complete endowment figures</p>

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<p>No Quarter, thank you very much. You are correct.</p>

<p>UCLA
$1.2 billion
<a href=“https://www.uclafoundation.org/finances.aspx[/url]”>https://www.uclafoundation.org/finances.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Berkeley
$2.3 billion
[Facts</a> at a glance - UC Berkeley](<a href=“http://berkeley.edu/about/fact.shtml]Facts”>By the numbers - University of California, Berkeley)</p>

<p>and my statement about Berkeley always being above UCLA is reinstated.</p>

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<p>For the record, BayBoi is correct: Cal’s endowment is larger.</p>

<p>However, his figures are off: <a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/treasurer/foundation/foundation.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/treasurer/foundation/foundation.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Total University Endowment Assets by Donor Designation
to Regents and Foundation</p>

<p>UCLA: $1,881,050
Berkeley: $2,344,791
(figures in thousands).</p>

<p>That represents a gap of around $460 million, which is significant. However, an interesting figure is the total MANAGED endowment:</p>

<p>Total Managed Endowment Assets by Foundation</p>

<p>UCLA: $898,838
Berkeley: $785,758
(all figures in thousands)</p>

<p>This figure tells us what is pledged directly to each campus foundation. It may demonstrate to some degree that UCLA is directly in control of a larger share of the funds allocated to its purposes.</p>

<p>That being said, UCLA performs spectacularly well in an interesting category:</p>

<p>Total Foundation Gift Assets by Campus</p>

<p>UCLA: $1,352,907
Berkeley: $959,677</p>

<p>This is likely a direct effect of UCLA’s very aggressive fundraising programs started under Carnesale in past years.</p>

<p>That being said, I think what is most striking about these figures is not how UCLA or Cal perform relative to one another, but how far ahead the two flagship campuses are in comparison to the rest of the system. UCSF being an exception, given its large endowment relative to its size.</p>

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<p>Thanks UCLAri.</p>

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<p>“UCLA’s educational experience is deteriorating dangerously out of control!” - Today’s Daily Bruin</p>

<p>[The</a> Daily Bruin | UCLA student fees shouldn’t fund Pauley Pavilion upgrade](<a href=“http://www.dailybruin.com/articles/2010/4/8/ucla-student-fees-shouldnt-fund-pauley-pavilion-up/]The”>http://www.dailybruin.com/articles/2010/4/8/ucla-student-fees-shouldnt-fund-pauley-pavilion-up/)</p>

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<p>And in that article, the quote is attributed to nobody, go figure.</p>

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<p>An interesting article on Saving UCLA.
[Saving</a> UCLA - Feature - UCLA Magazine Online](<a href=“http://www.magazine.ucla.edu/features/saving_ucla/]Saving”>http://www.magazine.ucla.edu/features/saving_ucla/)</p>

<p>Honestly, who do you think people are going to believe, people on this board or the university’s publication?</p>

<p>“Block: These are truly challenging times. This year, as you know, we’re going to have a 32-percent increase in student fees approved by the Board of Regents in November. And this obviously can jeopardize our core purpose at the university, which is to provide broad access and excellence.”</p>

<p>“Trang: […] for me, either I’ll have to take summer courses and finish early, or take community college classes in the summer to fulfill my general ed requirements instead of taking them here, so I can do my major here. And then one of my acquaintances, she lives on my floor. She doesn’t think she can return next year, because she doesn’t know if her parents can afford it. And she’s taken out so many loans that it’s more beneficial for her to go back home and to work for a little bit and maybe take classes at her community college before coming back to the University of California [UC] to finish her education.”</p>

<p>“Garrell: […] The other area where I think it’s had a big impact is on our ability to ensure that we provide the curriculum for our students, ensuring we can offer as many classes as they need to graduate, ensuring classes don’t get too big.”</p>

<p>"Gilliam: The seed money that a dean might provide to promising faculty who have new and interesting research projects has dried up. It certainly hampers our ability to respond to the new issues that arise in our fields and to be able to build initiatives and projects and programs around new developments in scholarship and in practice. So that means we can’t hire faculty in emerging fields where we should have some expertise. It means we’re not able to deliver to the graduate students training and education in these new fields. "</p>

<p>“Gilliam: It certainly does put in harm’s way the future growth of the state. In a related way, it risks us not capturing innovation — as a place that discovered everything from the Internet to medical breakthroughs. And, in the largest scale, it raises the specter of the death of public education.”</p>

<p>“Block: […] We’ve got enormous risk in terms of loss of our brightest faculty.”</p>

<p>“Garrell: It’s faculty here going elsewhere. The faculty from elsewhere whom we invite to come here won’t. Or worse, we won’t be able to renew our ranks. And if, as a group, we can no longer do the best research and scholarship, we’ll see a decline in federal financing. We’ll see a decline in our research productivity and in our ability to train students.”</p>

<p>The article also addresses the Michigan Model.</p>

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<p>Why would you take either one at face value? The people in the Daily Bruin are just making a play for money. UCLA’s official publications are playing the same game.</p>

<p>But clearly the most disingenuous person is the one that posts all these articles then encourages others to go to places like Berkeley or UCSD that are in the exact same situation - or worse, if you want to bring up athletic funding again.</p>

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<p>Umm… BayBoi. first of all - it’s spelled “BOY”… and you say you go to cal??? Learn to spell, thank you.
Second of all, what the hell is your beef with UCLA? If you don’t like it, then stop trashing our school, because believe it or not, WE LOVE IT AND THERE ISN’T ANYTHING YOU CAN SAY TO PUT US DOWN. I frankly find it amusing that you seem to spend your days and nights talking crap about UCLA. Awwww… does Cal have nothing to offer you? Learn from us… We don’t go around on the berkeley boards saying how low its prestige is compared to STANFORD or some other ivy league. So do us all a favor and leave us Bruins alone. Or better yet, go outside for once… Cal has many trees and a nice scenery… so go climb one and get some fresh air. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>After proceeding outside and getting some oxygen:

  1. Fix your username.
  2. Leave us bruins alone. If you still feel the urge to trash UCLA, then frankly, I feel sorry for you. Obviously cal’s “prestige” and environment hasn’t taught you anything.</p>
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<p>My child, you are in for a sad, sad awakening when you hit college. Can’t wait to see you in the Chem 14 series, when you’re killed on the curve by people who are, you know, actually intelligent. </p>

<p>Additionally, CC represents probably the most abrupt, blunt and judgmental forum out there on topics such as prestige. As such, if everyone on here is saying that UCLA is a great school, it probably is. </p>

<p>Then again, why am I wasting my breath on you? ■■■■■.</p>

<p>“Angry protestors storm UC Berkeley Chancellor’s Home”
<a href=“http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/education&id=7167792[/url]”>http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/education&id=7167792&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>@bayboi
[The</a> Daily Bruin | Athletic department decides to cut $15 million in student fees from Pauley renovation budget](<a href=“http://www.dailybruin.com/articles/2010/4/9/athletic-department-decides-cut-15-million-student/]The”>http://www.dailybruin.com/articles/2010/4/9/athletic-department-decides-cut-15-million-student/)</p>

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<p>That’s great to hear! My post was focusing on the word choice in the article. I thought it was quite relevant since the article and the thread use deterioration when describing UCLA’s educational experience.</p>

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<p>I’m sorry if she feels that the sky is falling or ucla is turning into a mediocre university.</p>

<p><a href=“Video + Audio | UCLA”>Video + Audio | UCLA;

<p>This stuff isn’t hard to find, they are headlining UCLA publications.</p>