<p>okk… i know this is a bit extreme… (and i don’t know if they were saying this simply to bash berk) but what i’ve heard is that…
the california public school system is having some major budget cuts for school funding. how true is this statement? i really have no idea since i’m out of state and don’t really know whats going on with the school system in california. how bad would it affect the quality of schooling in berkeley sayy… within the next 4 years?</p>
<p>Berkeley and UCLA (especially UCLA) get a LOT of funds from alum and other sources. Thus, the budget cuts wont hurt the two flagship campuses as much as the lower ones, strangely enough.</p>
<p>the uc is a multibillion dollar corporation</p>
<p>its true that the budget is lower than what it used to be, but its also true that the uc still has tons of money</p>
<p>so ucla gets more money, shouldn't berk get more money since they have haas as well as its crazy engineering program</p>
<p>^ dood. Berkeley does't need money. Let the poorer UC schools get it. Our research is ranked #1 in the world already. The point of learning economics is to eliminate poverty in the world. - George Akerlof Nobel Prize Economics. The most important thing to do is get rid of racist Darth Vader UC Regent Ward Connerly and to get back affirmative action.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, to answer the question, they raised tuition to make up for the budget shortfalls. But it should be the same for out of staters. There will be ZERO effect on education. But alumni donations lately have sparked almost half of the campus getting renovated. I personally don't like it because I like the old Berkeley, but I guess times change. Also, a fair amount of rich kids attend Berkeley, and its not to save money, but for the great mentally and socially nurturing environment it is.</p>
<p>"The point of learning economics is to eliminate poverty in the world."</p>
<p>Who told you that lie? The 'point' is for the rich to get richer and to keep the poor poorer!</p>
<p>^^^^^
nutcase</p>
<p>^^^^
Cold hard fact. </p>
<p>The study of economics the distribution and control of limited resources. Who else are going to control the resources than those who already have them? Resources are power, babe. I hate to break your socialist bubble, but that system doesn't work unless you have -INFINITE- resources. As much as I would love to see Socialist Democracy it simply is not feasible with the limited resources we have on our lonely rock, orbitting an insignificantly average star in one of the smaller galaxies, on the fringe of the universe. </p>
<p>Any true person who believes in socialism/social equality would know that is a permutation of a quote directly ripped off from Howard Zinn.</p>
<p>As for Berkeley going broke? It won't happen. The Univeristy has been here for 150 years (just about), and it'll be here probably for another 150 more barring any catastrophe. Like all things, it will see ebb and flow in its quality and with time -- it will sink and rise based on the merits of its professors and instructors. If these people really cared about their fields, money wouldn't be an object. Of course, they do have to make a living, but excluding that, Berkeley will always be as great as the people who teach there.</p>
<p>^ Society isn't limited by resources as much as one would like to think to. The original economists were wrong. The fact is that technology over time has ALWAYS caught up and make society more efficient and able to deal with shortages of traditional ways of thinking.</p>
<p>^^ Well put, but I'm just going on the basis of what I learned in Economics 1. Eventually, technology will catch up -- but the specific technologies that will MAKE this possible are getting hindered by certain lobbies that will remain nameless. <em>coughBIGOILcough</em></p>
<p>Of course, we can't foist all the blame on them. But I think it'd be nice if we had technology like in Star Trek or Star Wars, then everyone's needs could be met. Infinite replicators and 100% efficient recyclers would solve a lot of problems, but I don't think that's very feasible.</p>
<p>^ Econ 1 is a weeder class. They don't teach you much there. Upper division econ, PEIS, Haas courses deal with the real economic reality a little bit better. </p>
<p>Sure, big oil is a hindrance. But its also the Old Economy vs. the New Economy phenomenom. Jealousy on the part of the Old Economy would rather see the entire economy collapse with them on top rather than lose their dominance to a more thriving new economy class. With that said, there are 100% energy recyclers, in the form of Superconductivity. But yea, until they find a room temperature superconductor, it doesn't matter. </p>
<p>When the price of oil hits 70-80 dollars a barrel, look for hydrogen cars, advanced hybrids etc... to hit the markets in full gear. Technology, innovative breakthroughs right now are coming from Korea and Japan. Silicon Valley USA has lost most of the steam from the late 90s. I put the full blame on Old Economy stogies and Alan Greenspan, and also Asia's tendency to promote engineers and smart people to the top, instead of politically adept businessmen, like they do here.</p>
<p>is berkeley going in decline? in just overall quality, status of school/students ? thats the general thing i hear from people who aren't too positive about cal...</p>
<p>Quality status of students gets better every year, just like every other college in the country. There's no "decline".</p>
<p>Yeah. For some reason, there are a lot of Berkeley haters in the ivy league system. I guess its a natural part of feeling like students here are happier than them, and are attending a school that is more prestigious internationally. </p>
<p>I happened to choose Berkeley over Cornell and UPenn. I never even realized that Berkeley was so different from everywhere else until I talked to all these poeple who are "depressed" and committ suicide at other schools like Cornell and Harvard. I couldn't really relate, it just seemed so odd to do that. I guess perhaps I was ignorant to other people's typical experiences...I imagine they have a much different reaction when they hear about what Berkeley life is like. I guess people in return have to falsely paint a picture of Berkeley as being "bad" in some area because they didn't get to enjoy the "Berkeley experience". </p>
<p>All you can do is hope that they find peace in their own lives through their own volition, and let others find it as well.</p>
<p>Yeah. For some reason, there are a lot of Berkeley haters in the ivy league system. I guess its a natural part of feeling like students here are happier than them, and are attending a school that is more prestigious internationally. </p>
<p>I happened to choose Berkeley over Cornell and UPenn. I never even realized that Berkeley was so different from everywhere else until I talked to all these poeple who are "depressed" and committ suicide at other schools like Cornell and Harvard. I couldn't really relate, it just seemed so odd to do that. I guess perhaps I was ignorant to other people's typical experiences...I imagine they have a much different reaction when they hear about what Berkeley life is like. I guess people in return have to falsely paint a picture of Berkeley as being "bad" in some area because they didn't get to enjoy the "Berkeley experience". </p>
<p>All you can do is hope that they find peace in their own lives through their own volition, and let others find it as well.</p>