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Societies don't create ideas, it can only promote. Ideas have to originates in one single human mind. Yes, it need to be promoted by others to get accepted.</p>
<p>Idea of GOD in any religious form generally get promoted after the death of the originator.
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<p>Wrong. Ideas formulate in a single persons mind. They are promoted and FURTHERED by society. yes, that means CHANGED by society, and how they view it. Take for example the most holy books of Western Religions, The Bible. while the text itself is not changed, the different views that you get from reading are changed because society demands that it keep up with the times.</p>
<p>For the record, since I've seen this misconception repeated several times in this thread:</p>
<p>Atheism is not a religion, nor is it a belief. In the arena of theism, it is in fact the opposite of a belief - at least my kind of atheism is. It goes like this: "I do not believe in a God."</p>
<p>"loslobos71: I'd kill myself if this were my parent. How embarrassing for her."</p>
<p>That shows what a character you are? You will fight for an obscure idea of GOD originating in some one mind but you will get embarrassed by your parent thoughts. How sad???</p>
<p>God didn't bring you to this world; your PARENT did.</p>
<p>GOD doesn't provide food/shelter every day; your PARENT work hard to provide it for you.</p>
<p>GOD doesn't provide you the good education/access to internet so that you can big mouth; your parent works hard for getting you all this.</p>
<p>There are tons of homeless in USA leave aside millions on the face of the earth; to whom GOD cannot provide one good meal.</p>
<p>So be thankful to your parent and if you need to pray and want blessing to get into the dream school then get the blessing of your parent.</p>
<p>I don't think you even have any right to be embarrassed because you will never be able to do anything for your parent.</p>
That shows what a character you are? You will fight for an obscure idea of GOD originating in some one mind but you will get embarrassed by your parent thoughts. How sad???</p>
<p>God didn't bring you to this world; your PARENT did.</p>
<p>GOD doesn't provide food/shelter every day; your PARENT work hard to provide it for you.</p>
<p>GOD doesn't provide you the good education/access to internet so that you can big mouth; your parent works hard for getting you all this.
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<p>eh, statement that another person made, I don't really agree with so I won't argue with you on it. </p>
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There are tons of homeless in USA leave aside millions on the face of the earth; to whom GOD cannot provide one good meal.
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<p>There are many ideas of why this happens. Usually it's something like for people to truly appreciate what they have, suffering is needed. Or, that out of all this suffering, a greater good comes about. </p>
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So be thankful to your parent and if you need to pray and want blessing to get into the dream school then get the blessing of your parent.</p>
<p>I don't think you even have any right to be embarrassed because you will never be able to do anything for your parent.
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<p>eh I'm not going to comment on these. Just wondering, did I type up all my responses for you to ignore them and not address them? Cause they took me a bit to type up...</p>
<p>Again, for those who say prayer "worked" why YOU and not someone else? because for sure someone else prayed for the same thing and you "won"...and if you say God has a different plan, then why try at all? just go with the plan?</p>
<p>and if didn't get what you prayed for, are you mad at God?</p>
<p>Cvjn: I'll come to your posts too. Since I seem to be the only one on the other side of the fence so it takes time.</p>
<p>Davnasca:
"Do you realize that no one is trying to force their religion on you? YOU are the only one belittling others and attacking their views! You give a compelling argument that religion at least serves as a social sanction on appropriate behavior, which you seem to have trouble displaying.
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<p>I'm also not trying to force my thoughts on any one. I'm just trying to convey to the students that they should not waste time praying to an abusrd concept GOD instead of working towards their goal to get into their dream school.</p>
<p>Also Religion doesn't serves as a social sanction on apropriate behavior but the cultures do. You need to brush up your knowledge about the concept of cultures which provide social behavior, ettiquetes.</p>
<p>Culture is defined as the system of shared beliefs, values, customs, behaviors and artifacts that the members of society use to cope with their world and with one another, and that are transmitted from generation to generation through learning (this definition is from a University of Manitoba web page, selected for its brevity). </p>
<p>Religious government are the worst of its kind. Why don't you go and live in a country like Afghanistan with Taliban religious government?</p>
<p>But you want to live in a free country like USA. wants to separate Church from State but big mouth to the new generation about GOD.</p>
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"loslobos71: I'd kill myself if this were my parent. How embarrassing for her."</p>
<p>That shows what a character you are? You will fight for an obscure idea of GOD originating in some one mind but you will get embarrassed by your parent thoughts. How sad???</p>
<p>God didn't bring you to this world; your PARENT did.</p>
<p>GOD doesn't provide food/shelter every day; your PARENT work hard to provide it for you.</p>
<p>GOD doesn't provide you the good education/access to internet so that you can big mouth; your parent works hard for getting you all this.</p>
<p>There are tons of homeless in USA leave aside millions on the face of the earth; to whom GOD cannot provide one good meal.</p>
<p>So be thankful to your parent and if you need to pray and want blessing to get into the dream school then get the blessing of your parent.</p>
<p>I don't think you even have any right to be embarrassed because you will never be able to do anything for your parent.
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<p>This has nothing to do with g-d, you just come off as a complete jerk. The kind of parent whose kid goes let's hang out at your house, my mom is home.</p>
<p>As for your last point, you're pretty right--my parents are pretty set for life. Besides breathing and doing what I like to do, there's not much else I can do.</p>
<p>loslobos71: I'm not sure who is the jerk as your post doesn't make any sense.</p>
<p>"This has nothing to do with g-d, you just come off as a complete jerk. The kind of parent whose kid goes let's hang out at your house, my mom is home.
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<p>Also if your post had nothing to do with forbidden word GOD then what was it about.</p>
<p>Your lack of respect for your parent shows the problem in proper upbringing.</p>
<p>It is true that my D's friends those who want to party alcohol/drugs certainly will not be tolerated at our home and if my D wants to indulge in these activities will certainly will say lets go to 'loslobos71' house as my DAD at home.</p>
<p>I'll prefer that my D has a fear that she cann't entertain her such friends at home because her DAD at home as this limit her chances to consume drugs because she might not find 'loslobos71' at her school.</p>
<p>It will be no issue at 'loslobos71' house as the whole family is jerk and allow teenage drinking/drugs.</p>
<p>loslobos71: That is why we pay $30,000 every year so that our D should not get "loslobos71" at her school.</p>
<p>Also we don't want her to be exposed to the absurd concept of GOD/Religion and that is why we send her to non-sectarian private school and not to a religious private school.</p>
<p>The private school that I went to at $25K a year had no shortage of partiers. Your daughter's going to drown in college. Dont be surprised to see her in rehab...</p>
<p>Also, I never said anything about my social life, so I dont know why you've deduced that i'm some hardcore stoner retard. Pretty far from it actually.</p>
<p>Also, proper upbringing? Lack of respect? That's laughable. My parents arent the ones who sheltered me from people who might have different beliefs or social habits simply because they disagreed. My parents arent the ones raising some puppet.</p>
<p>loslobos71: Your credibility is ZERO. This is what you posted about your School on CC</p>
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<p>05-24-2007, 09:50 AM #12<br>
loslobos71
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<p>420ish class public schools; 23 going to Ivies, one to Columbia... </p>
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<p>It will be better for you to just shut up. Had you gone to a private prep school spending $25K you should have been more respectful of your parent and life in general.</p>
<p>Also my D will find hundred of 'loslobos71' if she look for but you won't be able to find parent like POIH as your parent who will be willing to spend $30K on your School's education.
So hope that you will be a parent like POIH to your child.</p>
<p>How do you measure God's input on the admissions process? Is there some sort of formula of hours prayed + signs of divine intervention that equal admission? </p>
<p>IOW, if you prayed, how do you know that was the deciding factor? Did you have a 2.5 GPA with no ECs and get into Harvard?</p>
<p>It is absurd to think that God would alter his grand plan for something as petty as a school prayer. The nerve of some people to think that they can change God's mind, especially over something so trivial. Sounds like blasphemy to even <em>try</em> to change the plan; that's the work of the Devil.</p>