Did prayer help you get into your first choice?

<p>I went to private from K-7....</p>

<ol>
<li>Dont tell me to shut up.</li>
<li>I did go to private school.</li>
<li>That has nothing to do with respecting/not respecting my parents.</li>
<li>Who says i'm not respectful?</li>
<li>I hope to g-d i'm nothing like you in the slightest.</li>
<li>I love the random incoherent sentences.</li>
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<p>loslobos, just ignore PoIH. She's incredibly rude and disrespectful in her posts, her logic is absurd. Just let it go man...</p>

<p>It's just pretty difficult to imagine a parent being so completely out of it.</p>

<p>LOL, yea. But most of my (I don't mean to be offensive) Asian friends' (I'm Asian too...) parents are EXACTLY like this, so I'm not really surprised!</p>

<p>I dont think those parents are snobs like this--They just want the best for their children i.e. straight A's, ECs, etc. They just think that the top schools are the best for their kids no matter the fit.</p>

<p>PoIH shares a lot in common with them. I agree with the snob comment though. Dude...just let it go....</p>

<p>"I'm also not trying to force my thoughts on any one. I'm just trying to convey to the students that they should not waste time praying to an abusrd concept GOD instead of working towards their goal to get into their dream school."</p>

<p>-To some praying helps them get into their dream school. Not necessarily in a supernatural way either. It may help some cope with stress, rejection and waiting. Religion provides a way to cope with difficult issues.</p>

<p>"Also Religion doesn't serves as a social sanction on apropriate behavior but the cultures do. You need to brush up your knowledge about the concept of cultures which provide social behavior, ettiquetes."</p>

<p>-Religion predates culture. The western world and culture developed like it did because of Judeo-Christian ideas. RELIGION <em>IS</em> THE BASIS FOR CULTURE! Paleolithic man first developed a concept of God(s) before a concept of state. Do you honestly think that one day some person just decided to make laws and everyone would obey him? No! The moral framework of religion is what the laws were built upon.</p>

<p>"Culture is defined as the system of shared <strong><em>beliefs</em></strong>, values, customs, behaviors and artifacts that the members of society use to cope with their world and with one another, and that are transmitted from generation to generation through learning (this definition is from a University of Manitoba web page, selected for its brevity)."</p>

<p>-Beliefs=Religion... durrr</p>

<p>"Religious government are the worst of its kind. Why don't you go and live in a country like Afghanistan with Taliban religious government?</p>

<p>But you want to live in a free country like USA. wants to separate Church from State but big mouth to the new generation about GOD."</p>

<p>-I have never even once advocated the existence of God! I am trying to point out that religion does indeed serve a purpose in society and you need to stop calling people who believe in religion foolish! I could care less what you believe, I just think you are being absolutely ridiculous claiming that religion is foolish and serves no purpose. </p>

<p>“Practice before preach.”</p>

<p>-I am not preaching, I am trying to show you that religion has a purpose, even if not in your life.</p>

<p>Philosopher4life, you should know better than to use the argument from ignorance to prove the existence of God. Sorry, but it's not gonna fly around thinking people, as most non-believers claim to be. And I, for one, find it absurd to pray for God to grant a person admission into a specific college.</p>

<p>If one were inclined to pray in the first place, I might suggest that one's prayer be directed towards finding the <em>right</em> place in life, even if it isn't a four-year college. Faith, not a 'hedge your bets' type of prayer, seems to be a more useful and fulfilling endeavor. Trust that God has enabled you to use your natural talents for the highest good, whether that is at your 'number one' college or not. If you truly believe in God (to the extent that you think it is worth praying in the first place), then your faith will dictate that your fate is in accordance with a divinely ordained plan. It's up to you to understand what happens to you in the context of that plan.</p>

<p>To the non-believers---- I don't want to get into a prolonged debate about the existence of God. I just want to go on the record as saying that I don't think a person's prayer will affect anything in life. I guess you could say that I'm a theological Determinist in that respect, insofar as God has mapped out an individual's life before he or she came into existence. In that sense, the struggle for peace is the struggle to come to terms with the events that happen to us and to UNDERSTAND how they fit into a higher plan that is often beyond ordinary conception.</p>

<p>It doesn't really make sense, then, to pray to God in order to ask for something because He's already made up his mind, so to speak. If anything, prayer should act as a way to gain peace through understanding. </p>

<p>You non-believers out there might say that this is just another example of weak and foolish Christians rationalizing their own failings through their religious beliefs. This is partially true. It IS an attempt to rationalize what is often seen as harsh and impersonal events, but it is not a 'failing' in the sense that it is already pre-ordained. Faith does not allow for a concept of 'failure'.</p>

<p>well prayer shouldn't be treated as a wish you make... so it doesn't make sense to say "it didn't work"...</p>

<p>well, I think that people asking believers to prove existence of God is ridiculous.</p>

<p>Consider this analogy.
There is cup of water. I dip my finger into that cup.
What made my finger wet?
Doesn't take a genius to answer. The water in the cup made my finger wet.</p>

<p>I touch a table with my finger. What made the table wet?
The water that was on my finger made the table wet.</p>

<p>I put a paper on that part of the table. What made the paper wet?
The water that was on the table made it wet.</p>

<p>My question is, what made the water wet?</p>

<p>Water being wet is a property of the way elementary particles came together after the big bang. I can see that I don't get the point. :)</p>

<p>Prayer got me into my first choice :)</p>

<p>Praise God! </p>

<p>No I'm not getting in an argument over does he exist/opiate for the masses, psychological/his grand plan/nothing but a religion/God was created by Man not the other way round and etcetera, not on CC anyway.</p>

<p>lol, does god really care what college your kid goes to? Im really not sure...haha</p>

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I'm not getting in an argument over does he exist/opiate for the masses, psychological/his grand plan/nothing but a religion/God was created by Man not the other way round and etcetera, not on CC anyway.

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<p>God was created by man, not the other way around.</p>

<p>yep, it's all about da big bang fo' sho.</p>

<p>everything was created by the huge, ginormous bang. And by ParentofIvyHope's D's 'flashy' private school.</p>

<p>^^ ....... er?</p>

<p>Austin: "everything was created by the huge, ginormous bang. And by ParentofIvyHope's D's 'flashy' private school."</p>

<p>What is the problem here? Why you resort to personal attacks if you are unable to put forward any sensible points? What is my D's school has anything to do with this?</p>

<p>At least BigBang provide a theroy with some objectivity. You post doesn't even have any objectivity in it.</p>

<p>Senses are part of the human body. You call it wet or anything else, it is just a sense which is different from sense of touching table or paper. That is why human devised names to distinguish between these.</p>

<p>If the hands nerves become unfunctional then you won't be able to sense that the water is wet.</p>

<p>That's not really a personal attack. Austin is mocking you.</p>

<p>I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. I do believe in God, but I don't think God has any influence on whether you're admitted into a school or not. I'm reasonably sure that that decision is made by the admsisions director.</p>

<p>RDarin, great to see you JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE LAST WORD. yay you got it too. Great! :) As I've said I'm not getting into an argument here. So I have to respectfully demur. You're not going to change my mind, and neither I am going to change yours. So leave it as that, if you please.</p>

<p>Wasn't this thread er, meant for people who thought that God helped them get into their first choice? So where's the animosity coming from? Why all the arguments? lol those who can't live with differing opinions and have to go debate with anonymous faces behind the internet on whether God exists, go start a new thread with a more fitting title, like "Does God Exist?" or something along those lines, and argue to your heart's content =)</p>

<p>Just a suggestion only ok! lol</p>

<p>My views on big bang.
<a href="http://islam.about.com/od/creation/a/creation.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://islam.about.com/od/creation/a/creation.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Check it out, it's pretty 'flashy'
well, not as much as that.</p>