<p>seughost,
That’s interesting 'cause I’m getting the same numbers you have above now. Not sure what happened on the USNWR website 'cause I just copied the numbers from it in post #21. I actually did a cut-and-paste in post #24. I have the latest subscription. I don’t think you can access old data on USNWR.</p>
<p>I see a bright future for NYU-Poly when I think of Caltech because</p>
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<li><p>Former provost of Caltech(Steven E. Koonin) joined NYU-Poly. Current deputy chair of engineering at Caltech is a NYU-Poly alumnus</p></li>
<li><p>NYU and NYU-Poly’s combined endowment is $3 billion. Caltech’s endowment is $1.7 billion
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<li><p>NYU has some very stong schools and programs such as the medical school and applied math program(ranks #1 according to USNEWS <a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/applied-mathematics-rankings[/url]”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/applied-mathematics-rankings</a>). These help research.</p></li>
<li><p>NYU ranks #1 among “Universities That Turn Research Into Revenue” according to Forbes
[In</a> Pictures: Top Patent-Revenue-Generating Universities - No. 1: New York University - Forbes.com](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/2008/09/12/google-general-electric-ent-tech-cx_mf_0912universitypatent_slide_16.html]In”>In Pictures: Top Patent-Revenue-Generating Universities)</p></li>
<li><p>NYU-Poly’s student population is more than double of the student population of Caltech and both Caltech and NYU-Poly have the same tuition cost according to USNEWS
<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/polytechnic-nyu-2796[/url]”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/polytechnic-nyu-2796</a>
<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/cal-tech-1131[/url]”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/cal-tech-1131</a></p></li>
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<p>In the near future, NYU-Poly will have more power and money than Caltech(one of the best engineering schools in the nation) for hiring and attracting top faculty</p>
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<p>Caltech has (and has always had) a tiny alumni base. The fact that it has an endowment at its current level is really impressive. The same can be said about Williams.</p>
<p>Caltech’s endowment also goes farther since it has less students.</p>
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<p>Caltech’s arguably the best technical university in the world. It has a small alumni base which has won many awards, and are paid very highly are very well respected. The same can be said of their professors. I don’t see NYU poly taking it over anytime soon.</p>
<p>PINYU used to be Polytechnic Institute of New York and before that Polytechnic Institute of Brooklyn. It was one of the founding members of the [Association</a> of Independent Technological Universities: AITU](<a href=“http://theaitu.org%5DAssociation”>http://theaitu.org) and has long had ABET accredited engineering programs. I am sure that the programs they have now are up to that standard so your decisions should be based on factors like cost and whether the programs and location fit you.</p>
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Erm, let’s take a minute to actually think that through. Out of that endowment, Caltech operates a handful of science and engineering programs. </p>
<p>NYU runs a full college and graduate school of liberal arts, a law school, a medical school, a business school, an engineering school, a dental school, a math institute, an art history institute, an archaeology institute, a social work school, a public policy school, an arts school…the list goes on. </p>
<p>Caltech endowment per student: $793,366
NYU endowment per student: $73,637</p>
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I think research expenditures are more important, especially for becoming notable and drawing faculty. Every university on that list is still taking a net loss, so colleges that spend relatively low amounts of money on research are favored…notice the presence of several colleges spending paltry sums on money on research (~$25K!) at the top of the list and the bigger spenders toward the bottom. </p>
<p>Caltech spends more money on research ($300 million) than NYU ($200 million), despite its smaller size, and according to the last ranking of patent production in 2009, produces about 3 times as many patents as NYU – it’s rivaled only by MIT, Stanford, and Wisconsin.</p>
<p>I don’t doubt that some of NYU’s ventures are highly profitable. It runs itself like a [url=<a href=“http://nyulocal.com/on-campus/2010/10/19/is-nyu-a-corporate-university/]corporation[/url”>Is NYU A ‘Corporate University?’ | by NYU Local | NYU Local]corporation[/url</a>] and monitors its profits. In order to do so, it has done some pretty surprising things – building a [url=<a href=“http://nymag.com/news/features/46000/index4.html]campus[/url”>Has NYU President John Sexton Sold Out With an Abu Dhabi Expansion? -- New York Magazine - Nymag]campus[/url</a>] in a country that treats Jews and gays poorly, accepting money to build an archaeology [url=<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/01/arts/01gift.html]institute[/url”>$200 Million Gift Prompts a Debate Over Antiquities - The New York Times]institute[/url</a>] from a collector of looted antiquities, providing [url=<a href=“http://chronicle.com/article/NYU-Looks-for-a-New-Approach/65808/]poor”>http://chronicle.com/article/NYU-Looks-for-a-New-Approach/65808/]poor</a> financial aid<a href=“64%%20of%20need%20met,%20average%20student%20is%20$35K%20in%20debt!”>/url</a>, etc. I’ll take the Caltech model.</p>
<p>NYU has 40 times more students, meaning 40 times more tuition revenue. Caltech is the best school of engineering. NYU-Poly is also an excellent school for engineering. NYU-Poly counts National Academy of Engineering founders, members and National Inventors Hall of Fame inductees among its faculty and alumni. Current and former presidents of major professional societies, including the American Chemical Society, American Society of Civil Engineers and the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), are alumni. </p>
<p>Peter Staeker, the current Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) president-elect, is an NYU-Poly alumnus. Andrew Herrmann, the current president of the American Society of Civil Engineers(ASCE) is an NYU-Poly alumnus.</p>
<p>Many Fortune 500 companies are currently being headed by NYU-Poly alumni, including Yahoo!, Lockheed Martin, Xerox, and AECOM.</p>
<p>The electrical engineering department at NYU-Poly has fifteen IEEE Fellows, which is more than the number of IEEE Fellows RPI’s electrical engineering department and is on a par with Columbia University’s electrical engineering department</p>