<p>D was really interested in OSU, but the scholarship package offered was minimal (pathetic, really) as compared to what other schools offered. Did we just strike out at Ohio State, or are others also disappointed? As life-long residents of Ohio, we expected them to meet the generous offers from out of state. (okay, not expected, but certainly hoped for…) Not the case…</p>
<p>Hey at least you got accepted…I would have killed people to get into OSU (not literally) but they denied me…and Im still trying to fight my way for OSU without having to transfer</p>
<p>yea im OOS and they only gave me 18000 of the 32000 it costs…o well NMSU here I come!</p>
<p>Are the out of state offers from state schools or private schools? </p>
<p>We are in state and were disappointed (!) with the scholarship at OSU, but it was a tiny bit more $ than what Virginia Tech offered. That’s the only other OOS school my daughter was considering.</p>
<p>OOS state schools were public who offered full tuition and more.
OSU barely scraped off the top.</p>
<p>And of course you’re right—it is always a gift to be accepted. We are just
having trouble justifying the difference in money.</p>
<p>We are in state and were also disappointed with the scholarship amount.</p>
<p>My daughter qualified for maximus scholar with $2700 scholarship. She
competed but did not win a medalist/presidential scholarship. She states
that she is not the best essay writer, and with over 1,000 competing, not
a high chance of winning. I was rather surprised that so many students
were competing.</p>
<p>I believe the university uses this competition as a way to entice bright
students to at least check out the school, campus, academics. etc. in
hopes of attracting these students to enroll. The $2700 is probably enough
to attract many students to come to the competition. But when you are
one of the great majority who only walks away with the $2700, the draw to OSU
may be gone. </p>
<p>Compared to many other schools, both state and private, Ohio State general
scholarships are small/limited, especially considering the size of the university.
My daughter received a generous scholarship offer from both an out of state
state school and an out of state private school. She will be choosing from one
of these schools to attend in the fall.</p>
<p>OSU was the worst of the bunch for us. We are in-state. A tiny scholarship and the usual Staffords. Decided not to go out of state, just with economy and travel costs, etc., so Kent may be in the works now, if only because they offered almost $5000. OSU wasn’t even even 20% of that.</p>
<p>I agree completely w/ the Maximus competition as an avenue to bring the bright kids in for an official visit day. It’s pretty smart of Ohio State, really. It does, however, build hopes for kids and lets the overwhelming majority feel disappointed.</p>
<p>We’re going to eat the travel costs and go out of state. It’s pretty hard to pass up a difference that exceeds $20,000 a year.</p>
<p>I thought I would add my two cents to let other know that OSU does give good merit aid, for OOS. My daughter is out-of-state and did receive very good merit scholarship from OSO. I am very happy with it, especially after reading these comments in this forum that suggest that OSU is not generous. They gave the most generous of all the New England and state schools (Penn State gave some merit, but not as much as OSU). Perhaps they are treating her extra special as I am an alum? (doubt it!) She is a great student, but we were still surprised and happy w/ the $ they have offered. We’re traveling to OSU Apr. 19-20 so she can meet the honors kids in person and stay overnight to feel if the university is the right fit. I would conclude that a student with high SATs, strong GPA, and OOS seriously look at OSU. (My daughter was also accepted at Boston U, U of Rochester, Penn State Honors, and U. of Vermont. She was waitlisted at Columbia. Academic interests is biochemistry major/music minor … not sure if that played a role).</p>
<p>It is disappointing when you are a lifelong resident (and taxpayer) of a state and the amount of scholarship $ offered is very low.</p>
<p>It’s even worse to hear that OSU is more generous to OOS in comparison to other schools (see post 9). Why aren’t they more generous with their own residents?</p>
<p>Does anyone understand the logic in this? I have a much better time accepting something (even if I don’t like it) if I can understand WHY it is so. Or pehaps I don’t have the whole picture. Anyone?</p>
<p>Yes, it’s pretty sad that Ohio State does not do more for the in
state students. You would think they would be tryng to keep more
of the brighter students, especially since Ohio State has become more
focused on competetiveness / higher rankings.</p>
<p>I noticed on other forums, of schools which my daughter applied to, that
students were going to end up going to their own state schools because
that is where they got the larger scholarships. With Ohio State it appears
to be the opposite, students are offered more to their OOS schools. </p>
<p>I know with the economy some schools may not be able to give as much
money currently, but I also hear of schools digging deeper to help
students more this year. Ohio State has a huge endowment, I don’t think
they are hurting for money, not like some schools. </p>
<p>They have not been focusing on renovations/upgrades on campus much, that’s
for sure. Yes, Ohio State has built the state of the art fitness center, but many
buildings on campus are lacking/outdated, from the 50’s/60’s. Many of the dorms
are obsolete/depressing. The Ohio State dorms are the worst I have seen. </p>
<p>If Ohio State wants to achieve a more pretigious university, it needs to make more of
an effort with the in state students ( the ones paying the taxes ).</p>
<p>I totally agree caitydid90. I was very reluctant to even apply to oh st, for the normal reasons that an ohio kid doesn’t want to go there, but I did. And after I visited campus I decided that I would definitely consider it. I assumed that with my stats I would get a decent amount of money, and I figured in these uncertain times, I would to be stupid to pass up a nearly free education…</p>
<p>Cut to a few months later and I’ve recieved a pretty hefty scholarship to U of Maryland, my first choice, and a whopping $2k/yr from oh st. Needless to say, I will not be attending.</p>
<p>you in state people are so lucky to even have the tuition you have. ohio state in state tuition is what? 8-9 thousand? UIUC charges 9.5k for tuition, 3.5k for fees, and a 4k “tuition differential” which is applied to 90% of majors. that makes tuition for UIUC almost 2x more at 17k.</p>
<p>Sportmama, Maybe this will help.</p>
<p>First off… my DD attends OSU and I live in MD. </p>
<p>For an OOS, the price of the tuition is the cost of tuition for an in state student without your tax contribution. </p>
<p>Or another way to phrase it, the tuition price for an in-state student is the price of the out of state student minus the state contribution. </p>
<p>So you could say almost every instate student is automatically awarded a scholarship. Your tax contribution is the scholarship. </p>
<p>Not exactly but you get the idea. OOS at OSU pay $21,918 and instate pay $8679 for tuition. From the way I see it, instate students automatically get a $13,239 scholarship. </p>
<p>If you look at the OSU website, OOS that apply to OSU and have above a 27 ACT or 1220 SAT get $7200 which is only half the $13239 discount for an instate students. The can also get Trustee and the Provost Scholarship if they have better scores for an additional $3000. But OOS still pay $10000 more if they get both. But both of these scholarships are also available to instate students. Yes, on the surface, it looks great that an OOS gets $7200 scholarship, but I would gladly substitute your $8679 bill for my $14,718 bill.</p>
<p>And not a lot of money goes to the OOS at OSU. OOS are rare at OSU. I was told less than 6%. And not all of them got scholarships. But OSU is real smart to offer the best students from other states and incentive to attend. The OOS that get an OSU scholarship have extremely high GPAs, great SAT scores and boost the univeristy’s stats.</p>
<p>And just for full disclosure, my DD choose between U of MD and OSU. She picked OSU for many reasons. Great school, great college rank for Engineering (U of MD and OSU equal), great students, and (funny thing)… because the dorms were much better that U of MD. At UofMD, they don’t have enough room for all students in the dorms, so you have to move out before your senior year, dorms do not have A/C, they were packing in 4 to a room etc.</p>
<p>It really is the same at both places, some local students love U of MD and dream of going there all their lives, and some don’t like the state university and just have to go somewhere else. I hear the same from Ohio residence about OSU.</p>
<p>But it really comes down to… It is a personal choice and it is just what you make of it.</p>
<p>Thank you, jrent, for your response. So OOS students receive big scholarship $, but that’s because the cost of tuition is significantly more than it is for in state students. Right?</p>
<p>With that information in mind, the question I have for other posters is this: Is the COST for your child as an OOS student at OSU less than it would be for an in-state school?</p>
<p>Our only experience with an OOS school is Virginia Tech, and they offered the same money as OSU, even though my daughter would be OOS. We would have paid about $9000 more at VT. So, Virginia isn’t as generous as Ohio?</p>
<p>Gnsdraw, I don’t feel very lucky. Our state and local taxes are the 7th highest in the nation:</p>
<p>It is estimated by the Tax Foundation that the nation as a whole will pay on average 9.7% of its income in state and local taxes in 2008, down from 9.9% in 2007 primarily because income grew faster than tax collections between 2007 and 2008.</p>
<p>New Jersey residents paid 11.8%, topping the charts. New Yorkers were close behind, paying 11.7%, and Connecticut was third at 11.1%. The top 10 were rounded out by Maryland (10.8%), Hawaii (10.6%), California (10.5%), Ohio (10.4%). Vermont (10.3%), Wisconsin (10.2%) and Rhode Island (10.2%)</p>
<p>The three schools my daughter applied to in 2007 had these in-state tuition rates:
UNC - $3205
UVA - $5602
VT - $4959</p>
<p>The in-state rate for OSU was $7827.</p>
<p>Tax rates are higher in Ohio and in-state tuition is higher.</p>
<p>I want to be clear that this is not meant to be a sour grapes post. I am not begrudging anyone scholarships. I am, however,disappointed and confused as to what the state of Ohio is thinking. Really, what are they thinking?!</p>
<p>I didn’t mean to sound bitter, and I understand the OOS vs IS arguement, but it was very off-putting for me to be told by UMd that I was in the top 2% of their applicant pool, and therefore I’d be recieving a decent sized merit scholarship, and then get snubbed by OSU. </p>
<p>IMO, the two schools’ applicant pools are similar, and I was offered almost 40% of the COA by UMd and just over 10% by OSU. </p>
<p>Maybe that’s not an accurate way to look at it, but in my mind, something doesn’t add up…</p>
<p>SportMama</p>
<p>Each university knows their competition and prices their tuition accordingly.</p>
<p>Each of the schools you list are very good schools and just for discussion, let us say if a student applies to those schools and OSU, I am going to assume they have excellent scores and would qualify for the Provost Scholarship of $2,100 at OSU.</p>
<p>So if you take the OSU instate tuition of $7,827 - $2,100 = $5,627. And this compares close to the VT and UVA price. </p>
<p>Yes, I understand that an Ohio resident that attends those schools would pay OOS tuition. But I think SportMama is talking about how much the State of Ohio supports the instate tuition rate with tax money.</p>
<p>rschlegel420…</p>
<p>I think you benefited from the reverse of the discussion posted here.</p>
<p>Not knowing your scores, I am only guessing here. But If you were a MD resident, you probably would not have gotten the 40% reduction and might not have received the 10%. You might not have received merit money at all. Out of 120 students from my DD High School that were accepted to U of MD, only 2 received any merit scholarship $. And both were 4.0 Unweighted GPA, multiple APs, and above 1510/1600 SAT. And there were 20 other students very close to these scores and they did not get any merit $$ at all.</p>
<p>But if your scores compare to those 2 students, then yes, you did great and would have received merit scholarships from U of MD.</p>
<p>As I said to SportMama, schools know their competition. And OSU and U of MD compare quite well and compete for some of the same students. If you notice, their tuition rates are almost identical. And U of MD does give money to OOS to attract them. Again, its very smart to pick the best from other states to get them to come to U of MD (or OSU.)</p>
<p>Many MD residences complain that U of MD does not provide enough merit scholarships at all.</p>
<p>Now to be fair to U of MD, they are trying to correct this problem with a program to raise a Billion dollars (yes, a billion $$) for scholarships. Here is a link explaining the program:</p>
<p>[Great</a> Expectations, The Campaign for Maryland](<a href=“http://www.greatexpectations.umd.edu/index.html]Great”>http://www.greatexpectations.umd.edu/index.html)</p>
<p>It’s been interesting to read all of your viewpoints. When I started this thread, my objective was not to bash OSU. Obviously, we think it’s an outstanding school or D would not have applied there. We found no fault with the housing or facilities at all. Rather, we found it to be an excellent university all the way around. Again obviously, OOS students pay more than IS-----that’s true wherever you go. And again, any in state resident may feel annoyed that their own child didn’t get an equitable offer when they pay taxes to support public schools in their home state.
Having said all that, here’s where my issue with OSU began. D had really great qualifications. (No, I don’t think she’s some superstar, but she is a highly qualified applicant.) Other OHIO institutions gave her excellent packages. OOS institutions gave her excellent packages. Ohio State University gave her a minimal, token offer. We were perplexed as to the reasoning. Some of your posts have clarified that—some have muddled that. </p>
<p>At the end of it all, D has chosen the best financial package that matched a school w/ the best academic fit for her. It is NOT OSU. Frankly, from my perspective, I think Ohio State is missing the boat by not offering substantial aid to Ohio’s own brightest and best. I’d think that keeping Ohio’s kids IN OHIO for future employment and residency would be beneficial to Ohio. As for us, we’ll keep rooting for the Bucks----But D will not be one.</p>