<p>The valedictorian of my school is a hard-working student who deserves everything she gets. She got a full-ride to CalTech and got in ED to Yale.</p>
<p>The kid who's #2 by a small margin is the biggest BS artist in this country. He doesn't do any homework, cheats on tests, plagiarizes projects, the whole nine yards. He's the kid that got a 2300 on his SATs. He's the president of like every club, but he never shows up for any meetings or does anything. He gets high grades because he understands the material, but he is unmotivated in every regard.
He'll get into the Ivys no problem because he can fill in all the blanks on the app. Luckily for him, there is no way for the adcoms to know who he truly is.</p>
<p>Me? I'm like #3, so I naturally harbor a great deal of resentment for his chosen academic methods ;).</p>
<p>He's very smart, but he has no motivation. He thinks that his intelligence gives him a blank check to do whatever he wants. You can say that it doesn't happen as much as you want, but I have seen lazy kids get into ivys with my own two eyes.</p>
<p>Hi, my SAT score is Math: 720, Writting:580, Reading:560</p>
<p>Its not bad but I've been getting a solid 3.9 with AP classes during high school so I think I should have a higher SAT but its one of those things that I just cannot concentrate on and study.
I cant believe im actually ganna retake them in two weeks..its really late but i think it will help me get in to honors college.
I really dont like the test, I honestly dont see how it tests knowledge or anything thats needed in life but thats coming from a kid who didnt do all that well on the SAT's so...yeah any advice(secret) on how to actually sit down and study? lol seems so simple but its not something that I could do for hours</p>
<p>OP, you can get an idea of the distribution of scores for admitted applicants to some schools that publish this. The University of California, being a public institution, is more open than most in publishing admit statistics.</p>
<p>Here is a site where you can query the database for the admisstion stats at UC Berkeley and UCLA, the two highest (undergraduate) ranked UCs. Berkeley is USNWR ranked 21 I believe, and UCLA 25. Much less selective than HYPS (25% or so admittance, vs. <10% at HYPS).</p>
<p>Per this lookup University</a> of California: StatFinder chances of being admitted to Berkely with under 1500 SAT is about 6.7%. Considering most of those admits are student athletes or some other compelling hook, the admit rate for an unhooked applicant with that SAT score is probably under 2%.</p>
<p>My school sends more kids to UC Berkeley than any other UC. Gigantic public school, but a majority of the people going there get less than 1500 from here.</p>
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Also, i did really poorly on the SAT but got a decent score on the ACT. Most schools accept both, so I'd try to take both tests. Some students do a lot better on one or the other.
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<p>this is definitely correct. A friend of mine got a 14?0/2400 on the SAT and a 26 on the ACT</p>
<p>This thread has certainly taken an interesting turn :)</p>
<p>Believe it or not, Foreman, there are people out there can have a lot of academic success without much effort. Whether pure intelligence without drive is a virtue is debatable; the fact that those people exist is not.</p>