<p>First of all thank you to so many folks for sharing on this board. I too am a parent of a daughter with a LOA awaiting an eye waiver. I felt to nervous to be involved but there is so much positive energy on this board!
I've seen some comments on not getting in on I day. What does that mean?
How does that happen. I know I'm jumping the gun but frearful that you get a waiver only to be denied at the gate!</p>
<p>Unless I am WILDLY mistaken, (and I don't think I am), once you get your papers to report on I-Day, you're in. Any DQ's should have come down by then.</p>
<p>I certainly hope no one chimes in and corrects me. To DQ a kid on I-Day for a DODMERB issue would be the hight of bureacratic FUBARs, if you ask me...</p>
<p>ETA: Nervous to be involved?</p>
<p>Maddam, as the mother of a prospective USNA Mid, you have every right to be here. Weclome! :)</p>
<p>Thank you. You know it is like tempting fate! So when they say 9 plebes left on I day. Did they leave because they changed their minds. By the way
you are a wonderful source of info and You should be a BGO!</p>
<p>Candidates have and can be DQ'd on I-Day. I know because I was next to one who did; so it is possible, but the numbers are very small.</p>
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<p>What was he DQ'd for?</p>
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<p>Thank you. You're most kind. :o</p>
<p>Part of my interest in becoming a BGO is to be able to provide more accurate and up-to-date information than I am able to offer now. The incident above is an example. I simply cannot fathom that a kid would be invited to report on I-Day, only to get there and be told, "Sorry, but your (fill in the blank) waiver was denied. Get lost."</p>
<p>But, this is government we're talking about, so let's see what the response is...</p>
<p>I will say one thing. If I do become a BGO, and they pull that one one of MY Mids, they're going to think a Marine Corps division staged a landing on the butts of the Admissions Board!</p>
<p>Candidates can be DQ on I-day. If, for example the have a medical waiver, there are tests and X-rays, to verify the submitted information that was the basis for the waiver.</p>
<p>Kids get injured right before I-day, and sometimes the injury is severe enough to prevent admission.</p>
<p>One current mid fractured her ankle a week before I-day and she was DQ before she got there. So even though she had passed her DoDMERB six months prior with flying colors, she had to wait and reapply the following year.</p>
<p>You could also fail the urinalysis, or they could find something amiss in your blood test. Myriad of reasons, but the probability is very small that once cleared, a candidate will be DQ on I day. Jadler, do you have any information regarding the candidate next to you that DQ?
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<p>Well, OK, but that's a different story.</p>
<p>New injuries, failing whiz quiz, etc., are all legitimate.</p>
<p>I was under the impression the question was more along the lines of, "I got my waiver, nothing has changed, but now I'm DQ'd."</p>
<p>Did I misunderstand the question?</p>
<p>At the USGA last summer several cadets were DQ'ed for color blindness...it baffles me how they got that far w/o this being detected. Also one girl left that day because she couldn't take it and burst into tears. That happens some times.</p>
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<p>Oh, man. I'd have somebody's guts for garters over that! That is simply unforgiveable!</p>
<p> [quote] Also one girl left that day because she couldn't take it and burst into tears. That happens some times.
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<p>Actually, that happens quite a bit. Some people simply can't take it. What annoys me is that they KNOW this when applying, then quit so easily. Unacceptable, and I don't miss them one bit. I simply regret that they took the slot of someone more deserving.</p>
<p>Maybe pulling people waiting outside isn't such a bad idea, after all....</p>
<p>I know a candidate for NROTC Scholarship that was colorblind and faked his way through the colorblind test. If they are done in order, one can merely memorize the numbers, if someone knows them in advance.</p>
<p>He did get tripped up on one and was sent for further screening which he could not fake, and you guessed it, got DQ. Perhaps the previously mentioned candidate faked his/her way in preliminary screening without realizing further testing awaited.
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<p>Good grief....</p>
<p>Yep. Same thing at USMMA. DQ'd over the color blind thing & sent home. Dodmerb dropped the ball. Federal, its a creepy thought but your dd should be fine. Just bubble wrap the rest of her to be safe. Didn't someone say something a few months back about a Cadet being sent home from Beast due to a newly discovered heart condition that went undetected? I know of one Mid who got an appointment and a week before I-Day, injured his knee and had to do a year at civy college. He's at the Academy now but that had to have been heartbreaking... STAY SAFE everyone!!</p>
<p>Zap, good luck to you with becoming a BGO. The kids are already starting to draw pictures of you I see. LOL You'll be a good one I know. Plus you have to tell us all the secret stuff when you do become one. Its a rule here. ;)</p>
<p>I cannot recall what the reason was...I do know it was something I never heard of before...it was a weird name. I do know that for a fact he was sent home. I got "specially screened" because I have an abnormal heat beat (aka runner's heart). I got an ultrasound test. I was cleared and while waiting for the senior medical officer to sign/review/clear me, I met this kid and since I was next in line, I heard the officer telling him that "we are going to send you home" and I was shocked. </p>
<p>Zap, remember the constitutional paradigm...sometimes officers need to make choices based on the mission, service, and command, not on the individual.</p>
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<p>No argument from me, but during I-Day seems to me to be a bit late, don't you think?</p>
<p>If they're finding stuff like that on I-Day, it seems to me that DODMERB is a waste of time unless, again, I'm missing something, which I very well might be.</p>
<p>Here's my understanding:</p>
<p>You will not be disqualified on I-Day based on a previously known condition that was already waivered (unless it has worsened in some way -- see below).</p>
<p>If you were not truthful/accurate about a medical condition in your past (or faked your way through an exam) and they discover the problem on I-Day, you could be sent home.</p>
<p>If something happens between your medical exam and I-Day that is disqualifying (injury, serious illness, etc.), you could be sent home. This normally would be something that prevents you from participating in plebe summer but could be something else disqualifying.</p>
<p>BTW, that's why future plebes are advised to be very careful prior to plebe summer (i.e., not engaging in activities known to cause injury) so that they don't break a leg, etc. because that would mean a ticket home.</p>
<p>So on I-Day, do you go through the same medical examination as you did for DoDMERB? Or do they only take a second look at you if you have a waiver?</p>
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<p>You will not be disqualified on I-Day based on a previously known condition that was already waivered (unless it has worsened in some way -- see below).</p>
<p>If you were not truthful/accurate about a medical condition in your past (or faked your way through an exam) and they discover the problem on I-Day, you could be sent home.</p>
<p>If something happens between your medical exam and I-Day that is disqualifying (injury, serious illness, etc.), you could be sent home. This normally would be something that prevents you from participating in plebe summer but could be something else disqualifying.
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<p>That certainly makes perfect sense.</p>
<p>The battery you go through on I-Day isn't as all-encompassing as DODMERB. I specifically remember an eye exam, but little else. Perhaps the folks who just went through it could refresh the memory, here.</p>
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<p>He did get tripped up on one and was sent for further screening which he could not fake, and you guessed it, got DQ. Perhaps the previously mentioned candidate faked his/her way in preliminary screening without realizing further testing awaited.
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<p>Not cool. Very uncool. I would hate that to be the guy from The Abyss. I would hate him to be the one making a color decision. Very uncool.</p>
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<p>Aside from the fact that he was LYING....</p>