Diversity? Or lack thereof?

<p>The latest figures show Brown to have 28% people of “color.” Is it just me or is this basically saying that Brown is horribly un-diverse?</p>

<p>I personally am Indian and am contemplating if I’d find enough of a niche for myself considering the very un-diverse student body at Brown.</p>

<p>I dunno, I love the school and all but the lack of diversity is frightening. That 28% is supposed to count for every type of “colored” person, so that means that the school is 72% white…ehhhhh.</p>

<p>When you consider something like 90% of the U.S. is WASPs...</p>

<p>You want more Indians, go to India. You're not going to get much more diversity than that at any U.S. college.</p>

<p>Are you serious, 28% is a large number in this context.</p>

<p>mega, I'm sorry, but are you serious?</p>

<p>Uh..I hope you aren't majoring in statistics, because 28% is pretty high for the situation, love.</p>

<p>I'm fairly sure that Brown is unusually diverse--in fact this is one of the reasons I chose Brown (I am also Indian, by the way).</p>

<p>It is actually diverse to the degree that my friends who are at other ivies (namely princeton) that have come to visit have commented on how much more remarkably diverse Brown seems to be compared to their schools.</p>

<p>You really have no reason to be concerned. The Indian community in particular is very large and well-organized.
Although the page is currently under construction you should check <a href="http://www.brownsasa.org%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.brownsasa.org&lt;/a> is a few weeks</p>

<p>You should also look and see what percentage doesn't identify. Don't assume they're all white.</p>

<p>Yea, Brown is known to love legacies and minorities. lol So I don't know where you are coming from with this comment. Have fun finding a 50% minority at any school.</p>

<p>Well, it depends on your definition of minority.</p>

<p>UC Irvine: "I haven't seen a Caucasian in three months!"
"What part of Asia are they from? Have an eggroll."</p>

<p>But Irvine is one of a handful of colleges in the country that has a non-white majority.</p>

<p>If you really, really want diversity, I'd recommend you look at state schools. Schools like Berkeley (although you missed the deadline) and Michigan-Ann Arbor will have much higher percentages of minorities and many more minority students overall (simply because they're so big). On the other hand, the average student at Brown might well be more tolerant than the average Caucasian student at a state school.</p>

<p>If that's the only thing keeping you from applying to Brown, then just apply. You might not get in and then you don't have to worry about it, or you might get into lots of schools but none with nearly as many minority students as Brown and then your choice is easy. And if you get in and have to make a choice, make sure you come to A Day on College Hill in April, and maybe schedule another overnight, so you can get a feel for what the campus is like. Actually being there is the only way to tell if it's a good fit for you.</p>

<p>Hmmm, it looks like I'm disillusioned by the much higher percentages of "minorities" that attend the UC's. I guess this isn't the case for the east coast schools, then. </p>

<p>Btw, I didn't pull that message out of my ass. 28% would be about the percentage of asians alone at a UC. "Colored" people in general would make up a much higher percentage. I vaguely remember one UC having about a 36% caucasian population, in which the asian population was actually higher.</p>

<p>So keeping that background in mind, 28% "colored" people as a whole is very little, which is where I'm coming from.</p>

<p>And cbomo, you ignorant fool, don't act like the typical arrogant American. I'm a U.S. citizen and I've been in this country for 16 years. I'm as much as an American as any and don't need to hear that feeble-minded bs. I was simply asking about the diversity at Brown, nothing more. And your last statement proves your uninformed ignorance, being that many colleges in California alone have a much more diverse student body.</p>

<p>[EDIT]And btw, I hope I didn't offend anyone, I didn't in any way mean to bash whites, it's actually funny because most of my friends are white. I just want to see more than a few Indians at the college I go to...</p>

<p>Seriously, you want more Indians--go to India. Dumbass.</p>

<p>So what is it that I'm ignorant of?</p>

<p>Mega, I don't think cbomo was trying to purposely be "arrogant" or anything... it just seems that you're saying you want to see some more Indians at college and that you think Brown doesn't have as many asians compared to UC schools. It's really quite simple. If you want to see more asians, go to places with more asians.</p>

<p>However, I hope you still consider Brown because it's very welcome to all minorities and diverse people, and as dcircle said, you should find quite a lot of indians there. :)</p>

<p>It's completely true that colleges in India will have more Indians, and even at the UCs, which obviously have more Asians in general, Indians are going to be distinctly in the minority. If you're going to get offended because someone points that out, you might have a problem no matter what college you go to.</p>

<p>Alternatively, maybe it's a cultural thing. Here on the East Coast, sarcasm and cynicism are an integral part of conversation. We're harmless, really... but if you expect everybody to be visibly nice all of the time, I can't guarantee that California will be better, but I can say with relative assurance that the East Coast isn't the place for you.</p>

<p>On a side note, I want to second the note that there is a vibrant and active Indian population at Brown. I have a close friend who is Indian, and he has managed to find an absolute ton of Indian friends, and has gone to a number of organized activites.</p>

<p>Having a lot of non-whites at a school does not always create diversity or acceptance, and it's important to remember that. Brown is a diverse place, both in numbers (at least compared to many other East-coast schools) and in reality, so don't let those worries keep you from applying.</p>

<p>Saying, "You want more Indians, go to India" sounds too much like, "Go back to your country" to be taken as sarcasm. I get what you guys are saying, but you should be more sensitive to others' concerns.</p>

<p>Most conversations I have with my friends go much the same way. Maybe that's just because one of my friends is a second-generation immigrant, but we all make fun of each other all the time. That's just part of how we interact.</p>

<p>My comments, I might add, were entirely serious. I've lived in New England my whole life, and I didn't even notice that cbomo's comments could have been taken as anything but sarcasm. From my personal experiences with people from other parts of the country, I really think that there's something about people from around here that makes us, well, more sarcastic than most.</p>

<p>Judging by megathunder's post, and assuming that Brown is representative of New England, it seemed like he would be happier at one of the UC campuses than Brown. There's absolutely no reason he should pay $20,000 a year extra (or whatever the difference is) and move across the country to go to a school where he isn't going to be happy.</p>

<p>When I first read some of the comments, I thought that yeah, some of it could definitely be interpreted in a more negative light, but I naturally assumed it was sarcasm and not meant to be taken seriously. And I don't live in New England either, so I doubt it's a "culture thing".. I think it's just varies from person to person. There are just as sensitive people in New England (I was born there, know lots of people there) as there are anywhere else.</p>

<p>And I agree, if race is a big deal for mega, then maybe a UC would be more to his liking. My friend goes to UCI.. it's like 50% asian or something like that.</p>

<p>"Saying, "You want more Indians, go to India" sounds too much like, "Go back to your country" to be taken as sarcasm. I get what you guys are saying, but you should be more sensitive to others' concerns."</p>

<p>Thankfully there are at least a few sane minded individuals who can see condescension where it is most blatant. I was beginning to think I was the only one here...If what cbomo said isn't the most obvious example of derision I don't know what is. Give me a break, purple. :|</p>

<p>I try to make a point of not attacking people, because I assume that you're all perfectly nice people unless you give me a really good reason to think otherwise. This includes you, megathunder. My first comment to you was completely nice. My second one wasn't because, when you call someone an "ignorant fool" based on one sentence, I could only conclude that you were kinda sensitive.</p>

<p>In retrospect, I can completely understand where you're coming from. You very well may have good reason to be so sensitive, and I apologize if it seemed like an attack on your character.</p>

<p>Aside from that, though, all I've done is given you advice, and I think all of it still stands. You're obviously predisposed to like the UCs better than Brown. That isn't a bad thing. I, and most of the people on this board, are predisposed to like Brown better. We may have been attracted to it by the open curriculum and the fact that it's a liberal arts university in a city, but beyond that I can't really describe what so attracted me there. I just had a really good feeling about it.</p>

<p>If you have a good feeling like that about UC, chances are, you'll be happier at UC, even if Brown would have been just as good a match for you. The best advice anyone can give is to go with your instinct, and if your instinct says that you'll be happier at UC, then you almost definitely will.</p>

<p>You're overreacting, dude. Chill out.</p>