<p>hey guys, i'm a rising senior
I'm doing my essays right now, and I was wondering if i even have a chance at UPENN.
Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Stats:
Unweighted GPA: 3.93
Rank: Top 5%
PSAT=208 (probably commended. i know its weak)
SAT I: Did not take.
SAT IIs: MATH 2 - 780
ACT: 33 (English - 31; Math - 36; Reading - 30; Science - 34); Essay - 9
APs: Biology - 5; Calculus AB - 4; Psychology - 5
Many honor classes in High School</p>
<p>Plans for Senior Year:
AP Calculus BC, AP Statistics, AP Physics C, AP ENGLISH, AP SPANISH
Tough Schedule with 4 AP Classes
Block Scheduling- 4 Classes a Day</p>
<p>What do you think? Seriously posting a chance thread and asking if you have a chance with stats like is pretty much the reason why most people get bored of chance threads. I mean lets be reasonable here, a 33 is in the middle 50% you have a good GPA. Why in the world would you think you don’t have a chance. I mean seriously. Work on your essay rather than wondering if you have a chance. Chance threads are useless and the only way you can know is apply!!!</p>
Chance threads are useless and the only way you can know is apply!!!
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<p>I disagree. People without most of their SATs in the mid 700s or some remarkable extracurriculars are unlikely to be admitted. </p>
<p>The OP’s score on the Dartmouth Academic Index is probably going to be around 6 (a 7 or above usually implies admission based on academics, 4-6 implies that the applicant will need some kind of non-academic bump in order to be accepted). </p>
<p>U Penn is less selective than Dartmouth, so the OP probably has a good chance of getting in just based on academics. The fact that he has nice ECs definitely pushes him into the admit pile.</p>
<p>If you read his title “do i even have a chance at UPENN”. Then you’ll understand my answer. He has a “chance” not a guaranteed. </p>
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Let’s be reasonable here. I can say that there are students with scores in the mid 600s that have stellar ECs that get accepted. There are even students with scores around 2000-2100 who have stellar ECs get accepted. Just because you have scores in the 600 doesn’t make it a no. So it is true that chance threads are useless because when people say that someone who has a SAT score of say 2010, and they say that person have little chance, he/she still can get in.</p>
<p>al6200, Penn doesn’t use a ten point scale to objectively select its admitted students.</p>
<p>SAT is NOT the most important factor; I had SATs of v690 and m720, which is good but not phenomenal. GPA is much more important than the SAT since it gives a taste of all four years of education as opposed to four hours of a test. </p>
<p>Let’s look at factors that affect admission:</p>
<p>GPA
SAT
Essay
ECs
Work experience
Interview(s)
Academic difficulty
SATIIs
Legacy/URM status</p>
<p>I’m sure I missed a bunch. The point is that there is no way that you’re going to look at someone, see “1600 SAT, 4.0GPA” and be able to honestly say “You’re getting in.” Penn accepts roughly 16%ish of applicants a year. They turn away dozens of Valedictorians and students who are #1 in their high schools. You need to be a complete candidate, meaning you need the grades, but you also need to have done non-academic things during high school. Not only that, you need to have done those things WELL.</p>
<p>As for the OP, you obviously have a chance, but you have very few non-academic extra curricular activities, which makes you pretty unlikely to get in, to be honest. The thing is, though, if you want to go to Penn, freakin’ apply to Penn. These chance threads are getting really stupid.</p>
<p>you should change the title of this thread. of course you have a chance. everyone knows that. just ask “what are my chances” or something like that.</p>
<p>Muertapuebla, Penn is not more selective than Dartmouth. They are pretty similar in terms of selectivity with different preferences. Also Dartmouth is a “hot” school while Penn is sort of flat in terms of app growth.</p>
<p>The first time I heard Dartmouth was an Ivy was on Wikipedia during my freshman year I think. The first time I heard UPenn was during 6-7th grade. Difference heck yeah. Like no average person really knows Dartmouth, they know UPenn though.</p>