<p>I’ve shortened this list significantly thanks to you guys’ opinions -
UMinnesota
McGill
Urbana Champaign
UConn
Penn State
Purdue
UMaryland</p>
<p>I had to give up my beloved UCs, but you guys are right, I really don’t have a chance there and the tuition is far too steep. I am really liking McGill though - how do my prospects look there?</p>
<p>@gloworm, that is a completely wrong statistic…UIUC OOS is like 13%</p>
<p>they want people who are in the hardest classes and still manage to get in the top 10%, grades need to improve, so do SAT scores, ACTs aight but still room for improvement.
Most of the ECs played into Berkeley, Ivys wont really care that you had all this stuff at berkeley, why dont you just go there? Im pretty sure with all this stuff that you already do at that school, you should be able to get in.
Plus Ivys are Ivys. Not everyone gets in, I probably wont get in… and there are tons of other schools that are probably more suited for you personally, all you have to do is look for them.</p>
<p>@aiminghigher, i realize that, hence why i took them off. i would love to go to berkeley, but i can’t realistically afford it. hence why now i’d like to know what everyone thinks of my shot at mcgill.</p>
<p>avenlea,</p>
<p>These are the full-time UG enrollment figures from UIUC’s own web site as of 9/6/09. My # may be a bit off, but not by much. You can do the math.</p>
<p>Total UG 31,196
Total IL 26,186
Total other US, includiing military 1,669
Total non-US (different acceptance pool) 2783
Total other (whatever that means) 558</p>
<p>So, what you are really looking at are 26,186 v 1,669 attending. Yes, more were accepted, but the cost is really high for OOS since little aid is given.</p>
<p>total UG - total IL (im assuming thats total students from illinois) = 5010, wouldn’t that be the total OOS?</p>
<p>look, i know everyone is saying you have no chance at an ivy league school but i beg to differ. I know a kid that got into harvard from my school with a 2180 on the sat, both subject scores in the high 600’s, and was un-hooked. if you can prove that you are an interesting person that will add something to the campus, the skys the limit. dont let others tell you what you cant and cannot do. will it be hard to get into an ivy league school? of course it will be. does that mean you shouldnt try? you should always try. having said that you shouldnt be applying to ivy schools simply because of their name brand</p>
<p>The 5010 is all who are not IS, but you as a student from the US really don’t compete against the intels (2783) or the unknowns (558), so for your purposes, it is better to only consider domestic students (IS v OOS). This is not uncommon, and certainly not unique to UIUC. They may be telling you 13% OOS, but that includes even those in a different applicant pool. Hope this helps. Been through the process there.</p>
<p>so I’m no expert so I can’t say if everyone whose being so cynical is right but I would encourage you to apply to your reach schools even if you don’t have much of a chance. A lot of them wave application fees if you apply online and even if they don’t you’re still only looking at $30-$50. Even if you only have a 1 in 20 chance it’s worth the gamble. However I wouldn’t focus on purely large universities they look at numbers and then if they’re interested they may look at the rest of your resume. I understand your reluctant to go liberal arts but see if you can’t find one that you really like because with your resume you have an excellent chance of getting in, even if your GPA is a little on the low side. They’ll see that it’s because you challenged yourself and your GPA might even be an asset - LACs love students who aren’t so concerned with numbers, but rather with learning</p>
<p>so I’m no expert so I can’t say if everyone whose being so cynical is right but I would encourage you to apply to your reach schools even if you don’t have much of a chance. A lot of them wave application fees if you apply online and even if they don’t you’re still only looking at $30-$50. Even if you only have a 1 in 20 chance it’s worth the gamble. However I wouldn’t focus on purely large universities they look at numbers and then if they’re interested they may look at the rest of your resume. I understand your reluctant to go liberal arts but see if you can’t find one that you really like because with your resume you have an excellent chance of getting in, even if your GPA is a little on the low side. They’ll see that it’s because you challenged yourself and your GPA might even be an asset - LACs love students who aren’t so concerned with numbers, but rather with learning</p>
<p>hi guys,</p>
<p>i guess i should clarify more: my parents and i sat down and talked, and basically we can’t afford to pay more than 35K a year, and even that is pushing it a bit. we are in the higher income bracket and therefore will get no financial aid, and the economy going down really hurt us, so it’s kind of a lose lose situation. i really am not in favor of paying 40K plus for LACs that my parents would probably not approve of in the first place; that leaves me w/ the big ten + mcgill.</p>
<p>mcgill, i love it. and again, if anyone knows my chances there, i’d really appreciate some input.</p>
<p>i really think that i don’t have a chance at an ivy league school and even if i did, i can’t afford it, so it’s kinda pointless…</p>
<p>*my parents and i sat down and talked, and basically we can’t afford to pay more than 35K a year, and even that is pushing it a bit…we are in the higher income bracket and therefore will get no financial aid, *</p>
<p>That will change things. </p>
<p>What schools are you applying to that will cost under $35k per year?</p>
<p>Is your weighted GPA on your transcript???</p>
<p>What is your major and career goal?</p>
<p>@mom2collegekids, as i posted earlier, my modified list is </p>
<p>UMinnesota
McGill
Urbana Champaign
UConn
Penn State
Purdue
UMaryland</p>
<p>w/ mcgill as my top choice. my weighted GPA is on my transcript, right next to my unweighted GPA. i want to major in cognitive science/neuroscience/pre-med concentration and hopefully go onto medical school. all of the schools above ^ are in a reasonable price range for my family.</p>
<p>I think you ought to look at Pitt, also. I’m not sure of the exact run of stats for money and the honors college, but it is possible that you could get some money from them. Pitt is a school that seems to get less publicity than it deserves. It is strong over all and has a good honors college. It is also one of the few places that is known to give money to OOS students. The University of Rochester is another place to consider, and they do have merit scholarships, although it is more selective than Pitt.</p>
<p>@Consolation, i actually looked at pitt, and it is in my price range, but i don’t like the lack of diversity - i took off wisconsin madison and a bunch of other schools for this exact reasons. i need diverse schools, thats a HUGE criteria for me. other criteria are research opportunities, prestige, proximity to a city, and size (although this isn’t a huge one…i just don’t want a school with like 1200 kids)</p>
<p>I’m wondering what your definition of diverse is.</p>
<p>@Consolation: well ************** tells me that upitt 80% white, which does not at all sit well with me. mcgill isn’t insanely asian, but there are people from all over - people have told me that upitt is mainly instaters.</p>
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<p>where did you read that? Even at the smaller Ivies (not Penn or Cornell), with around 1,500 - 2,000 admits, that would mean that about 750 are Athlete/URM/Legacy/Hardship case??? I know for athletes, only starters would be actually “hooked”, meaning the coach is using one of his/her hook quota on that applicant. Freshman starting athletes couldn’t comprise more than 100 each year. In the absence of a hook, all the other atheletes simply use their athletic prowess as a strong EC and not a hook.</p>
<p>*I’m wondering what your definition of diverse is. *</p>
<p>Usually when a person wants diversity, it means that they want a significant number of students from their own ethnic group. </p>
<p>If they’re Jewish, then they often want a good number of Jewish kids; if they’re Hispanic, they want a good number of Hispanics; if they’re Asian, then want a good number of Asian. </p>
<p>Rarely does someone care whether all ethnic groups are fairly represented according to the US population. Rarely will - say - an African American student decide against a school because they’re aren’t enough Asians and Hispanics or whatever on campus. Usually, students just want to make sure that their own ethnic group is represented. </p>
<p>81% of McGill students are Canadian. I’m curious…What % of the students at McGill are Asian?</p>
<p>Pitt undergraduate is 79% white by 2009 CDS numbers. The city of Pittsburgh, btw, has one of the larger Indian populations in the country if that matters to you. If so, you might be interested in this [url=<a href=“http://www.wqed.org/ondemand/onq.php?cat=19&id=480]video[/url”>http://www.wqed.org/ondemand/onq.php?cat=19&id=480]video[/url</a>]. Honestly, being from that area, I’d take PSU off your list if you are interested in diversity (BTW, it’s CDS numbers are 78% white for undergrad, but it feels less diverse as it is located in a very rural, homogenous part of the state). You should really visit places to get an actual feel for your comfort level.</p>