<p>I was wondering if any instate public SOMs do any kind of backroom dealing when it comes to acceptances so that they're not all accepting the same students which hurts their yield. I'm not saying that there won't be some overlap....</p>
<p>Our state has only 2 public SOMs....so I was wondering if maybe they might do some kind of....Ok....we'll accept students 1, 2, 3, and 4. You'll accept students 3, 4, 5, and 6. </p>
<p>Or maybe that's just illegal...lol.</p>
<p>Not a problem where I live…</p>
<p>WOWMom, when y’all become a state , some of these questions will apply to y’all, too. ;)</p>
<p>Never heard of it here, but we effectively only have 1 state school (the other fills nearly their entire class BS/MD in an accelerated program). The other schools in MO are private MD (2) or DO (2).</p>
<p>Doesn’t TX do something like that though? Maybe unofficially, with interview invites and regional preferences and “prematch offers” (whatever the heck that means…)?</p>
<p>@ Curm</p>
<p>Snort! I’ll have you know we celebrated our statehood centennial last year. Even have the USPS memorial stamp to prove it.</p>
<p>Mom2K, you are in the paranoid stage. Step back, he is going to get accepted somewhere with no hanky panky going on. Seriously, deep breath and a martini. You are WAY overthinking things that are not under your control.</p>
<p>I do not think so in regard to our state publics. We have 7 Med. Schools in our state, I believe, one is private, the rest are publics.<br>
On the other hand, some schools might be checking acceptances to certain other schools and invite to interview based on that. Again, it could be just a personal perception, and any way in my D’s experience it was between 2 privates in 2 different states, one of them invited her after she was accepted at another, these 2 schools kind of known of accepting the same students though, definitely no connection, more like competing for the same type of students. D. ended up being accepted at both and had very hard time deciding…and she also knew/met several applicatns who were in exactly the same situation. D. went to both Second Look events and flipped her decision after collecting more inforamtion at each.
I do not know if something like this going on between in-state publics…</p>
<p>Sort of. State schools, unlike the elite privates, only consider numbers. The best state school will pick off the crust of top MCATs in the state. Then down the line. So, yes, the back room dealing revolves around respective MCAT scores.</p>
<p>i’m pretty sure what OP is describing is illegal/against AAMC or LCME policy. I just don’t see how medical schools could knowingly be allowed to get away with such practices.</p>
<p>It may be against some organization’s policy, but it ain’t illegal unless funding/financial aid is involved.</p>
<p>OTOH, I would be surprised if med school adcoms have that kinda time on their hands.</p>
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<p>I’m curious why you think this is so. Is it because the OP specifically limited the question to “in state” schools(which may be beyond the of scope of the Sherman Act (but not state law)), or is it some other reason? Many AAMC policies seem to have the truncated rule of reason test in mind, which would imply that they believe they have limits.</p>
<p>*Mom2K, you are in the paranoid stage. Step back, he is going to get accepted somewhere with no hanky panky going on. Seriously, deep breath and a martini. You are WAY overthinking things that are not under your control.
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<p>LOL…no…not personally worried about this. I just used my state as an example. I was really thinking about Calif publics (didn’t apply to any of those). My brother and I were talking about this…he has a premed son in Calif.</p>
<p>don’t forget mom2, that 3 of the 5 California publics are nationally-ranked. Thus, they pick and choose to fit their mission (and that of the UC). Only two publics are for ‘average’ applicants, and if in state, average is higher than national average.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Which are the two that are for “average” applicants? UCI and Davis??</p>
<p>D ran into the a guy on the interview trail last cycle at 2 diff interviews that went to UCI for UG. He had a 37 and 3.9, and had worked at the UCI hospital for a year after graduating. He ended up getting into ONE school, UCDavis off the waitlist. I don’t know what the ding was on his app, and D said he was very personable. Go figure.</p>
<p>I had heard these schools know who applied where, but I doubt they would know if someone was accepted/rejected/WL.</p>
<p>lima, my D’s at my D’s first interview (of 13) she was asked where else was she interviewing at. She had probably 8 or so at that time, and the interviewer was holding a folder and looking down at it. Whether they knew or not, she felt she had to fess up. I assumed they were just watching their yield. Anyways, she told them where, and there were some very impressive places on the list. We assumed she would be denied or WL, but it ended up being her first acceptance.</p>
<p>D ran into the a guy on the interview trail last cycle at 2 diff interviews that went to UCI for UG. He had a 37 and 3.9, and had worked at the UCI hospital for a year after graduating. He ended up getting into ONE school, UCDavis off the waitlist. I don’t know what the ding was on his app, and D said he was very personable. Go figure.</p>
<p>He may not have had any dings…it’s just that Calif has a super-big-glut of med schools applicants with super stats. If this was an Asian male, then he would have been particulary in a bad position.</p>
<p>A young girl from my Calif high school had great stats, great ECs, very personable (really an angel!), went to UCLA and the only SOM she got into was Wisconsin Medical College (which is certainly great)…she’s Asian and thinks that was the issue for Calif SOMs.</p>
<p>I think when you apply, the list of schools you’re applying to is part of the file that’s sent to the schools.</p>
<p>I know there’s national database on applicants and acceptances. I don’t know if that database includes a list of applicants to each of the various schools.</p>
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<p>There are literally hundreds of instaters just like him. The big three draw primarily from their backyards: UCSF draws a third of its class from Cal & Stanford, UCLA Med takes a bunch from UCLA undergrad, and SD does the same. Factor in all UC special admits (non-trad, overcoming adversity), and there just ain’t many spots left for the ‘regular’ high stat guy/gal. (And don’t forget those instaters that attend private schools, like the Ancient Eight, Caltech, Pomona, USC, and who then apply to instate med.)</p>