<p>Some of you don't quite understand the point. Read these research articles from professor Aubrey de Grey, University of Cambridge.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sens.org/manu16.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.sens.org/manu16.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sens.org/AdGpubs.htm#intro%5B/url%5D">http://www.sens.org/AdGpubs.htm#intro</a></p>
<p>I would want to live until I run out of contributions to make to the world or the lives of other people.</p>
<p>i just saw this video and thought it was the most stupidest thing ever. "immortality!" is the same catch phrase they use here like they do in "$200 back! (after mail in rebate)" same for this: "immortality (in heaven!) lol</p>
<p>rule never dies: what goes up, must come down. when your heart goes up, it will come down.</p>
<p>On the other hand you might well agree with novelist Kingsley Amis: 'Almost nothing is worth giving up for the sake of a few more years in a nursing home in Bournemouth.</p>
<p>Anything > Nonexistence (death)</p>
<p>are you sure? There are things alot worse than death...</p>
<p>No there isn't.</p>
<p>Death = nonexistence = nothingness</p>
<p>Something > Nothing</p>
<p>Aw c'mon guys! No Queen references? I must be showing my age, but this is needed for ANY discussion on immortality:</p>
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Theres no time for us
Theres no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams yet slips away
From us</p>
<p>Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever....?</p>
<p>Theres no chance for us
Its all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us</p>
<p>Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?</p>
<p>Who dares to love forever?
When love must die</p>
<p>But touch my tears with your lips
Touch my world with your fingertips
And we can have forever
And we can love forever
Forever is our today
Who wants to live forever
Who wants to live forever?
Forever is our today</p>
<p>Who waits forever anyway?
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No there isn't.
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<p>Oh, yes there is. Alot of stuff is worse than death. Death can sometimes be an easy way out for people who live horrible lives...</p>
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Death = nonexistence = nothingness</p>
<p>Something > Nothing
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<p>Hmm...I dunno about that. What if your life is a negative sum, and death puts it back to zero?</p>
<p>that is exactly my point....a person may live like **** and death would be his/her only way out.</p>
<p>Death is the entry to presence with Meh' Lord! So don't fear death, for it is only the beginning of an eternity. You are just getting started in terms of living, as the latter world will be beyond comprehension. Just wait. :)</p>
<p>"that is exactly my point....a person may live like **** and death would be his/her only way out."</p>
<p>A ****ty life is better than being erased from existence.</p>
<p>unless you believe, as I, that the moment you die you are reborn.</p>
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A ****ty life is better than being erased from existence
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<p>I don't think that the person who is living the ****y existance would agree to that...</p>
<p>Drew, read Plato's Apology, especially since you're a would-be philosophy major. It's quite good.</p>
<p>But let's bear in mind that the following is also a strong reason to hope that death may be something good. Being dead is one of two things: either the dead are nothing, as it were, and have no awareness whatsoever of anything at all; or else, as we're told, it's some sort of change, a migration of the soul from here to another place. Now, if there's in fact no awareness, but it's like sleep-the kind in which the sleeper has no dream whatsoever-then death would be an amazing advantage. For I imagine that if someone had to pick a night in which he slept so soundly that he didn't even drean and had to compare all the other nights and days of his life with that one, and then, having considered the matter, had to say how many days or nights of his life he had spent better or more pleasantly than that night-I imagine that not just some private individual, but even the great king, would find them easy to count compared to the other days and nights. Well, if death is like that, I say it's an advantage since, in that case, the whole of time would seem no longer than a single night. </p>
<p>On the other hand, if death is a sort of journey from here to another place, and if what we're told is true, and all who have died are indeed there, what could be a greater good than that, gentlemen of the jury? If on arriving in Hades and leaving behind the people who claim to be jurors here, one's going to find those who are truly jurors or judges, the very ones who are said to sit in judgment there too-Minos, Rhadamanthys, Aeachus, Triptolemus, and all the other demigods who were just in their own lifetimes-would the journey be a wretched one?</p>
<p>Or again, what would any one of you not give to talk to Orpheus and Museus, Hesiod and Homer? I'd be willing to die many times over, if that were true. You see, for myself, at any rate, spending the time there would be amazing: when I met Palamedes or Ajax, the son of Telemon, or anyone else of old who died because of an unjust verdict, I could compare my own experience with theirs-as I suppose it wouldn't be unpleasing to do. And in particular, the most important thing: I could spend time examining and searching people there, just as I do here, to find out who among them is wise, and who thinks he is, but isn't. </p>
<p>What wouldn't one give, gentlemen of the jury, to be able to examine the leader of the great expedition against Troy, or Odysseus, or Sisyphus, or countless other men and women one could mention? To talk to them there, to associate with them and examine them, would that not be inconceivable happiness? In any case, the people there certainly don't kill one for doing it. For if what we're told is true, the people there are both happier in all other respects than the people here and also deathless for the remainder of time.</p>
<p>I'm not a would-be, I am a philosophy major. I'm a freshmen in college.</p>
<p>why is the text in post # 37 so small</p>
<p>Lets dance in style, lets dance for a while
Heaven can wait were only watching the skies
Hoping for the best but expecting the worst
Are you going to drop the bomb or not? </p>
<p>Let us die young or let us live forever
We dont have the power but we never say never
Sitting in a sandpit, life is a short trip
The musics for the sad men</p>
<p>Can you imagine when this race is won
Turn our golden faces into the sun
Praising our leaders were getting in tune
The musics played by the madmen</p>
<p>Forever young, I want to be forever young
Do you really want to live forever, forever and ever</p>
<p>Some are like water, some are like the heat
Some are a melody and some are the beat
Sooner or later they all will be gone
Why dont they stay young</p>
<p>Its so hard to get old without a cause
I dont want to perish like a fading horse
Youth is like diamonds in the sun
And dimonds are forever</p>
<p>So many adventures couldnt happen today
So many songs we forgot to play
So many dreams are swinging out of the blue
We let them come true</p>
<p>(the things my mind thinks of!)</p>