Do you want to live forever (or close to eternity)?

<p>I know this is a little off topic regarding to this website, but it could potential change how we as humans are going to be educated in the future. You have to see it for yourself to believe it. </p>

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<p>Has anyone heard of this before? This might shock you if your a very religous person, though I was surprised. If we were capable of pursuing this technology, it would have a tremendous impact on society, laws, business, science and even completly change how we view ourselves and the world.</p>

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<p>I think doctors, pharmacists, nurses, etc. (to a extent) would decline in demand, and eventually be eliminated because we will have this unimaginable control of our DNA and protein synthesis.</p>

<p>I'd decline--I'd hate to risk seeing people I love die off, and I'd become incredibly nostalgic.</p>

<p>No way. Too boring.</p>

<p>I agree with Murasaki. Even if I was able to live forever, I think I might end up resorting to suicide when I feel like I've experienced enough of the world.</p>

<p>I'd like to live forever. But the people I hate may also live forever, which I don't like. So I will accept a max limit of 100 years for everyone. Did you know that sometimes you can come back (reincarnation)? That is better, you get to live like someone else that is better.</p>

<p>Watch ZARDOZ sometime.</p>

<p>What amuses me is that scientists are trying to find a way to "stop aging" and all that crap. Why should we be dying to live when we should be living to die?</p>

<p>Let's say we were to discover a way to live forever, we will eventually die of something if not overpopulation. You just cannot cheat the reaper:).</p>

<p>" Let's say we were to discover a way to live forever, we will eventually die of something if not overpopulation. "</p>

<p>What about overpopulation?</p>

<p>Now that I have conviced you that aging is going to be dramatically slowed, and eventually stopped and reversed, you are probably wondering (as most people do), What about overpopulation? Well, let me put your mind at ease by saying this: Overpopulation is not a problem! I will try to give an overview of just a few reasons why this is the case (bear with me, I will try not to get too technical)</p>

<p>First off, if aging is not slowed down dramatically in the next few years, not only will overpopulation not be a problem, the reverse (shrinking population) will likely be true! World population growth rates have been steadily declining since the year 1960 (see this chart (<a href="http://www.maxlife.org/images/growthrates.jpg))%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.maxlife.org/images/growthrates.jpg))&lt;/a>, and are expected to stabalize (read: equal 0%) around the year 2050, and some estimates show it actually begin falling into the negatives at that point. Basically, throughout history the more technologically advanced a society has become, the lower their population growth. This is due to a wide variety of reasons (birth control, people deciding to wait later in life to have kids, more people deciding not to have kids, people having less kids when they do decide to have kids, etc.), but suffice it to say that population growth is declining (in fact, almost every developed country, including the United States, would right now have a declining population if it were not for immigration).</p>

<p>Secondly, technology will provide for supporting increasing levels of population. Simply put, as technology extends lives, it makes life more livable for larger populations of people. Since the Industrial Revolution, alarmists have screamed doom and gloom about overcrowding and limited resources (backed by misinterpreted "statistics"). However, the opposite has happened. The population increased by 750% since then, and standards of living soared (would you want to live hundreds of years ago before sanitation, modern conveniences, etc.?). It's not so much a question of resources as education, individual productivity and distribution - social engineering problems, not life extension problems. As long as people produce more than they consume, it's impossible to run out of resources. Even if we stayed where we are right now, with no technological improvements whatsoever, we could support at least 6 billion more people than are on the planet right now! Technology is increasing at a rate faster than population is increasing. It is estimated that we increase the amount of people that we can support at a rate of 20-40% faster than population actually increases.</p>

<p>Third, it is a question of morality. I do not think many people today would advocate mass genocide to reduce populations, do you? Then why do we support approximately 100,000 people dying of the disease of aging daily? Let me pose a hypothetical situation to you (credit to Aubrey de Grey, Ph.D. for coming up with this scenario): Put yourself in the position of someone powerful, for instance the prime minister of France, in, say, 1870 or so, when Pasteur was going around saying that hygiene could almost entirely prevent infant deaths from infections and death in childbirth. In your position, you have some influence over how quickly this knowledge gets out, and thus how quickly lives start being saved. But, you realise that the sooner people start adhering to these principles and washing their hands and so on, the sooner the population will start exploding on account of all those children not dying. What would you have done? 1) Got the information out as soon as possible, or 2) Held it back as best you could in order to delay the population crisis? I have yet to meet anyone who says they would have done the latter. With curing aging, there is no difference. None.</p>

<p>This explanation at this point has probably been long winded enough for a brief overview, but it is simply just scratching the surface. I hope you are conviced now, however, that overpopulation is not a problem. </p>

<p>Although you might not choose a option to live say 500 years, other people will, which is revolutionize and completely change the prospective of almost everything we affect.</p>

<p>I'd like to live forever just to see how cirrent events will influence the future. I'd hate to die and not know what happens. It's like watching a movie and just before the end where you find out who is behind everything...there's a huge black out and you never find out what happened. That's so annoying/</p>

<p>Sure, so i can see how things turn out. Hopefully i wouldn't LOOK 800 years old though. And as long as there was some way to off myself if it was necessary (like i wouldn't want to live through 500 years of nuclear winter, that would be pretty sucky)....</p>

<p>To quote Albus Dumbledore, "Death is but the next great adventure." (something like that) </p>

<p>Why would I want to live forever? I'm not trying to stuff my religion down your throats, but going to heaven will be much better than staying here. I learned to stop fearing death when I was 7 years old.</p>

<p>.-_-.</p>

<p>I would never want to live so long. Part of what makes life so precious is because we are mortal. I don't understand why people would want to extend life any longer. Death's not as bad as most people think it is.</p>

<p>Didn't you guys read "Tuck Everlasting" ? Kids here read it in 8th grade. It's an interesting treatment of the topic.</p>

<p>Tuck Everlasting is a pretty good book, but I'd suggest The</a> Merlin Effect, which brings up interesting questions about immortality vs. the renewal of life. Personally, I wouldn't mind living for a long time (500 years or so), but I wouldn't like to live forever.</p>

<p>I saw an interesting chart in a journal that compared mammal mass and size to longevity. Humans fit in quite nicely mass-wise, but our longevity was about twice as long as it should be (about 35 years). It puzzled scientists because, effective though it is, it's doubtful medicine has doubled our life span. Some scientists claim humans can theoretically live to be about 150, but the more conservative limit is ~120.</p>

<p>If we were going to live forever, we would have start forced abortions and population control immediately. We are already wasting the Earth's resources at a rapid rate and are arguably overpopulated already.</p>

<p>So in summary: To live forever, we would have to stop all new life. Eventually, we would all become equivalent of brains in jars(after 100+ years of life, your body isn't much better then a jar-imagine longer?)</p>

<p>Doesn't sound like a fun world to me.</p>

<p>I think we should focus on things like how to feed the starving children before we waste time/money trying to immortalize ourselves.</p>

<p>I don't think if you lived forever, it would be too boring because the world is changing constantly, like a blackboard that is written on over and over again. I also don't really believe in an afterlife, but I think after a couple thousand years, I would probably choose to expire if I had the choice</p>

<p>I'm agreeing with snoppyiscool, I'd rather prefer to live after death -- it should be much more fun on heaven :)
Beside, it's technically not possible to cease death of everyone; at least murder will prevail. But if we could live a lot (couple of billions of years) I would only be for this.</p>

<p>Part of me wants to say yes, the other part does not. </p>

<p>While I'd love to be in existence for virtually forever so I may see the "changes" in society, as well as the many new consumer products that released (I'm big on cars), at the same time, being old plainly sucks. Limited mobility and energy; if life expectancy was greatly extended, our health must follow the same trend.</p>

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Why would I want to live forever? I'm not trying to stuff my religion down your throats, but going to heaven will be much better than staying here. I learned to stop fearing death when I was 7 years old.

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<p>So, you're saying you want to live forever...but you want to do it in heaven? What's all this I hear from the Christians about everlasting life, anyway? Seems like everybody gets to sit around and fly frisbee golf for, you know, eternity? I don't think I'm a fan of unlimited lifespans in any plane of existence, things are cyclical and I wouldn't want to be a perpetual hanger on.</p>