<p>Yes It should be and yes I have that ability to make people lol. I think it’s why Berkeley accepted me you know. The grades that I earned and everything show for nothing in my capabilities because making people lol shows a lot more. Also I talked to the dean of UCSF med school WOW!!! I’m not even a student and he talked to me?! I bet him wanting to talk to me means he REALLY wants to recruit me and that I am so honored that he would talk to me…they must really want me.</p>
<p>they must want you badly because UCSF is a UC med school. you cant get any more prestigious than that.
wow congratulations calbear2012 you impress the sh1t out of me.</p>
<p>hmm through your animosity i must say i dig your sarcasm. i have a soft spot in my heart for as*holes</p>
<p>I know UCSF!..but than again I also talked to the admissions officer for Stanford and since he talked to me for a good 30 minutes I knew he totally wanted me in his program. It was pitiful really him just groveling with his words, but heck why would I go to Stanford when I got into UCSF psshh and also I knew this subpar kid that into Stanford Med so I was like “heck no”, but then I found out his contribution to the school was $$$$ so I guess it’s totally fair.</p>
<p>I’m glad I have a spot in somebodies heart since mine totally shrunk and rotted because of my nasty inferiority complex =)</p>
<p>the low blows have finally arrived…;)</p>
<p>After all the thinly veiled prejudice and sakky’s tired litany about “special privileges”, I didn’t think this thread could get any worse. But it has. I hope you guys have noticed the people from other schools and parents who briefly popped in to voice their disgust about the attitudes seen in this thread. I hope you’re proud of the way you have represented your school, because thousands of people are going to see this 19-page monument to prejudice, conceit, and pugnacious arrogance.</p>
<p>By the way jane, by “they must want you badly because UCSD is a UC med school. you cant get any more prestigious than that.” I hope you were not being sarcastic. UCSF is an excellent med-school, certainly top 5 in the nation.</p>
<p>Financial aid is given on a need basis, in fact it is more likely that Berkeley saw you as poorer than the other UC’s you applied to, they don’t give extra financial aid to students that they like more.</p>
<p>Cavilier you need to re-read Sakky’s posts, all he is saying is that Freshman should be given the same opportunities to avoid weeders that transfers have, what is wrong with that?</p>
<p>Well our school, according to jane, is already “subpar” so who cares how we are portrayed.</p>
<p>Wow… Glad I’ve decided NOT to go to Berkeley. You’re all an ignorant bunch of idiots and you do the alumni and the UC system a disservice by acting so bigoted towards a group of people that obviously have worked hard to get themselves into a respectable school. They’ve taken the road of opportunity and I’m sure a majority of them will make the most out of it, the way things work in America. So, stop being so insecure, and deal with it. And if you’re an international student saying these things, seriously, leave this country now and take your backwards third-world bigoted values with you. This is America and we don’t need you trying to change it into your homeland. Heck, if you were born in this country and you’re saying these things about how people are “supbar” and don’t belong there, maybe you should move to Iran or something. I’m sure they’d love you there.</p>
<p>“This is America and we don’t need you trying to change it into your homeland”
Now look who’s bigoted.</p>
<p>Again, the majority opinion is not that transfer students should not be accepted, or have not achieved anything, it is that they get an easier time since they skipped the weeder classes. The solution is not “no transfers”, it is make the transfers take the weeders, or let the freshman take CC classes to cover the weeders.</p>
<p>Bigoted? No. Trying to respect the values in which this country was based on? Yes. Not to say everywhere is bad, but I’ve heard enough complaints about our system from International Students that I’m using this as a venting point too.</p>
<p>IDK beret with a 3.15 at CC you shouldn’t be calling anyone an idiot…man admissions did a good one this year…</p>
<p>Calbear, how would you like it if I called Berkeley and gave them a printout of this thread? I’m sure that your staff and professors would love to see you “representing” by being such a ******bag.</p>
<p>@afc-A couple of things actually. First, Berkeley students should not shy from a class because they are worried about their precious, precious GPA (man, am I tired of the tyranny of GPA). Second, CC students must do well in their CC classes because those classes will determine where they transfer. Berkeley students do not have to do well in CC classes because CC classes are not counted toward GPA. It would be unfair.</p>
<p>@calbear-Being subpar or not is besides the point. You and some others are making Berkeley seem like a school of pretentious, chip-on-the-shoulder jackasses.</p>
<p>^^ I think that would look just as bad on you. Come on, printing out a 20 page thread from a forum with posts from people you don’t even know?</p>
<p>Beret, I understand your viewpoint and “respecting values”, and I understand that you are venting, but that is also what this thread is about. It is more or less venting that transfer students get to take easier classes for their first two years. I have not called anyone subpar, however, jane, a transfer, has called me subpar. I worked for my freshman admission, would you agree that she should go to “Iran or something”?</p>
<p>Cavilier, I am not saying I am shying from anything, but it is generally true that Freshman admits have to take harder classes their first two years than transfers. Possibly we could solve this problem by allowing Berkeley freshman to take weeders at a CC, but having it count towards their GPA? Unfortunately the tyranny of GPA will continue as long as Graduate and Professional schools put such an emphasis on it.</p>
<p>Printout? Really?..LOL yeah since my username contains my SSN and address to punish me. I’m just speaking my mind and sorry, but last time I checked this is a forum to discuss opinions and you like anybody reading this obviously know it’s the opinion of one person so stop getting so hot over what I say. Frankly if you think my opinion matters that much that it will defame UC Berkeley well than that’s just sad on your part.</p>
<p>wow! a 3.15 in management science…now that’s an accomplishment!</p>
<p>it’s sad that UCSD has a TAG program that **guarantees ** substandard students like this admission. At least Berkeley doesn’t have that bad of a double standard (in comparison)…</p>
<p>…with that GPA?</p>
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<p>Beret was accepted to UCSD without a TAG, in fact he was accepted to every UC he applied to, 2 of which with TAG agreements. </p>
<p>Don’t worry, I’m pretty much brain dead myself with my 3.19 UC GPA. My Physics professor worked in atomic research at Lawrence Livermore and had a similar GPA. Likewise, my Astronomy professor from long ago, took Algebra 1 3 times. He was such a failure at life he became an astrophysicist for NASA. </p>
<p>One of my best friends had a 2.7 and was rejected to every UC he applied to. He is now teaching summer camps at Stanford, something normally reserved for Stanford students, and doing very wheel for someone grossly subpar.</p>
<p>I knew Cal students were arrogant, but I didn’t know that they were this arrogant.</p>
<p>Yes, some community college classes are easy. So easy that you don’t have to study for them; but there were those I spent hours and hours studying for. If I may speculate, I believe that many Cal students are just sour over the fact that <em>CC students</em> (not all transfers because some come from other 4 year institutions) were more economically intelligent. CC students pay substantially less for taking the same classes. They may not be as academically rigorous, but in essence they are the same GE classes. Personally, aside from the “college experience”, I do not see why anyone would want to directly go from high school to a 4 year university. I think the CCs are for stupid people) idea (where even more of the bitterness has its roots) is ignorant and outdated.</p>
<p>Also if the chancellor and vice chancellors speeches given on Saturday are to be believed, transfer students offer more diversity and generally more life experience. Freshman students just come out of high school. I don’t care if you are the most intelligent high school student in the country. The fact is, you just came out of high school. I think freshman (especially freshman who get into top ranking schools) go in with a certain “I’m away from home/ I’m in college so I am mature now” attitude similar to the attitude a recently graduated middle school kid has when he enters high school. When the chancellor and vice chancellor said transfer students are the most exciting and interesting because they bring diversity I believe they truly meant it. The guy above who has a 3.1 GPA probably had something of more value to UCB than someone else with a 4.0 GPA. If everyone at UCB was an overachiever, then it would be a rather boring school dont you think? Not to mention, for those of you snobs, it would provide less competition, right? </p>
<p>I know most of what I wrote is just my unprofessional speculation, but I also believe there is some truth to it. Either way, you should not judge a population based on a few bad apples. After all, you are there to go to school and that is it. The people should not ruin your experience (even I need reminding of this every now and then).</p>