Does anyone know anything about UCSB Promise Scholarship?

I am very confused right now because I got a scholarship for a minimum of 120,000 over 4 years at UCSB. I am confused because I didn’t apply for it and because all my friends with similar financial situation and better stats did not get it. I am not exactly what it is for. It has definitely swayed my decision because I was 100% all in for UC Davis until I got the letter. Also, how do scholarships like these work? Do I get to spend the money I don’t use up because 30k+ a year is alot.

Part of the letter reads
Congratulations! In recognition of your outstanding achievements and potential for continued distinction in your academic pursuits, you have been selected as a Promise Scholar by the University of California, Santa Barbara. Promise Scholars are California’s highest achieving and most talented up-and-coming students. Should you accept this offer to become a UCSB Promise Scholar, you will join a select group of highly accomplished peers who share your truly exceptional promise to become tomorrow’s leaders.

As a member of this distinguished group, your admission would be highly valued at UCSB and we are pleased to offer you a minimum of $120,000 in grants and scholarships over your four years at UCSB. More details about the UCSB Promise Scholar program can be found here: www.finaid.ucsb.edu/promise-scholars-program.

On a side note, I got a $23,000 estimate in grants for UCDavis. Is it usually below the estimate?

Here’s the link to the program: [UCSB Promise Scholarship](http://www.finaid.ucsb.edu/promise-scholars-program).

First question - why you and not your friends? Because the Promise Scholarship is for first-generation college students only.

Second question - what’s the advantage of this over the UCD award?

(1) Well, it’s more money, meaning you probably won’t have to worry about getting a job while you’re in college - not during the school year or during the summers. At UCD, you’d probably be expected to work during the summer to contribute to the cost of your education, and you’d probably be expected to take on a work study job during the school year as well.

(2) It includes the cost of study abroad - even if that cost is more than the cost of going to UCSB. So, no worries about having to apply for additional scholarships to cover the cost of study abroad - it’s taken care of!

(3) The program includes special classes just for the UCSB Promise Scholars, research opportunities, personal mentoring from faculty and graduate students, and special academic help (including tutoring) if you need it. There’s more information about the program here: [Woods Scholars Program](http://academics.sa.ucsb.edu/woods-scholars/introduction).

One other notable thing about the Scholars program is that it doesn’t require you to maintain some crazy high GPA in order to keep the scholarship. You just have to keep a 2.75 average, which, if you’re a reasonably good student, is probably pretty manageable.

Third question - do you get to spend the money you don’t use? Yes, in the description of the scholarship, it says that any funds that aren’t used for tuition, fees, etc. for a particular quarter will be refunded back to you prior to the beginning of that quarter to help you pay for books and other personal expenses. Those expenses include things like cell phone. And if you live off campus, you’ll get enough to pay your living expenses.

Fourth question - is your UCD award estimate going to be above or below your actual award? Usually, the estimates are pretty accurate. I’d suggest posting the details of your UCD award, so we know exactly what you received.

Just so you know, you may still be expected to take out some loans at UCSB, the same as you’d be expected to do at USD, but it’s possible they’d be smaller, or maybe you’d find you could get by without any loans at all - I don’t know. In any event, if you borrow money, the program would cover any loan fees. (That’s a fee you pay at the beginning just to take out the loan.)

My advice? Unless you really have your heart set on UCD, I’d take the UCSB offer and not look back! The research and study abroad opportunities put you way ahead of what you’d be able to do at UCD, and the weekly classes and personal mentoring mean you’d have the kinds of close relationships with professors that could really help you later on if you decide to apply for graduate school. It’s an amazing opportunity - I’d encourage you to take advantage of it!

And I love Davis, but the weather is nicer in Santa Barbara. :wink:

@dodgersmom
Thank you so much for your input! Although I like how UCD is 30 mins from home, I would love to try something new and am leaning towards UCSB. Also, what does it mean by 120,000 minimum? What factors decide whether I get any more than that? Here is my UCD package:

Contributions
Student Self-Help $3,500.00
Expected Family Contribution (EFC) $929.00
Total Contributions $4,429.00
Financial Need $28,671.00
Estimated Financial Aid
Cal Grant A-confirming elig. $12,804.00
Fed Direct Subsidized Loan $3,000.00
Federal Pell Grant Program $4,825.00
Federal Perkins Loan $2,000.00
University Campus Fee Grant $540.00
University Grant $5,502.00
Total Estimated Financial Aid $28,671.00
Remaining Cost $0.00

The total costs of each of these colleges (tuition/fee, room/board, books, transportation, insurance, personal expenses) is about 35k per year. So at Davis you will need to come up with more money in the first place to cover your expenses. At either university, after they apply the grant or scholarship money to your fixed costs, they will give any excess back to you and you can use it during the year so you will get 7k more each year from SB. Plus they will give 1/3rd before each quarter so you can use it to buy books and not have to come up with the money first yourself.

Plus you are going to get all those extras at UCSB which will give you leadership opportunities as a Promise Scholar. It has benefits similar to an honors program. Congratulations that is a fantastic opportunity, take it!

I also want to add that college can be a big adjustment academically. It is in a way an easier schedule than HS as far as class time but you have to do a lot more on your own time. The program you were accepted to has resources for tutoring should you need it. And mentoring for decision making for your goals and career and grad school.

Okay, first, while you were replying, I was editing. I added a few things to my original post. :slight_smile:

Your Davis package only has $5k in loans, which is good. (It could have been as much as $7,500.) But it also has almost $4,500 in student/family contributions - which is money you and your family would have to come up with on your own. You could take out another small student loan to cover part of it, but not all of it. If you still couldn’t earn enough, your parents might also be able to take out a small loan. I’m surprised that your package doesn’t include any work study. If you decide to attend UCD, we can look at that later. I also don’t see a grant for USHIP (University Student Health Insurance Plan) - if your family doesn’t have health insurance for you, that should be included. Again, something to look at if you decide to attend UCD.

At UCSB, I don’t think you’d have to worry about any of that. Maybe a small student loan, but I doubt it would be much more than the $5k you’re expected to borrow at Davis. The Scholars Program is designed to help you succeed, and they know that burying you in debt is not the way to do that. And your health insurance is included!

The UCSB scholarships could go over $120k if you decide to participate in a more expensive study abroad program. The program description says they’ll pay the cost even if it’s more than you’d be paying to stay on campus. Don’t know if there are other possible increases, but I wouldn’t be surprised. You should ask.

And I was kind of joking about the weather, but if you live 30 minutes from Davis, then maybe you’d enjoy a break from the up to 100 degrees in the shade temps every summer!

If you have concerns, I’d strongly suggest calling and talking to someone. I’m sure the letter you received gave you a phone number. If not, I’ll try to find one for you. It’s really an amazing opportunity - if it had been offered to my kid, I’d have told him to take it in a heartbeat! From the sounds of it, it provides more personal attention than you’d get at most small colleges. Getting that at a UC is pretty special!

They may also be willing to pay for you to fly down and visit this week. If you can afford to take a day off from school, you should ask.

By the way, thank you for your post - it’s really wonderful and refreshing to hear from someone who got such great news!

Any decision yet?

Congrats to OP! That sounds like a wonderful, unexpected scholarship!

Congrats! That sounds like a wonderful opportunity at UCSB. UCD does not include work study in their financial aid package but they should have a certificate on their portal under financial aid which says they are eligible for work study. The medical insurance cost is added on later in the year as well as the corresponding scholarship funds to cover it.

@dodgersmom I’m probably going to submit my SIR to UCSB on the weekend. I am still trying to figure out how difficult it would be to switch majors from chemistry to biochemistry.

Can’t help you with that question - sorry! :slight_smile:

I don’t think it will be a problem changing the major. They are the same dept, the Dept of Chemistry and Biochemistry and they have the exact same lower division prerequisites except biochem needs one more. If you do have to formally change you only need department approval.
http://www.chem.ucsb.edu/undergrad/current/degree-requirements

hey, did you end up choosing ucsb? If so did you have to take out any loans because I got the same scholarship too

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