<p>I've been wondering this question for some time, since I am assuming that the Yale int'l pool is more competitive than for domestic applicants (yeah, I know that Yale claims to be context-blind, but I can't help noticing that internationals seem to have a harder time getting in, and no, not according to CC demographics)</p>
<p>PS: I've yet to take my first SAT this January</p>
<p>Helloooo. College admission is not just a number game as you often see SAT 2400 not get in. All int'ls prep SAT for years (? since kindergarten ?) I personally feel Yale is accepting more than its share of int'ls as now. Has Yale ever looked at the int'ls after they are accepted and see if they are who they claimed to be on their EC. I have heard stories of not-so-genuine EC being made up with their counselors' help. Hey Kowloon, for a junior you are spending too much time posting. Study for SAT !</p>
<p>How hyperbolic~
The vast majority of internationals probably prep for SATs 1-2 months before the actual test date. The various requirements for US uni admission such as SATs, intensive and extensive ECs and community involvement are hardly the core focii of many schools elsewhere, and a lot of internationals commit themselves to these activities on top of their very-heavy academic work loads.</p>
<p>C'mon, we're not born with a must..get..into..Ivy mantra ingrained in our minds.</p>
<p>I was actually convinced that being an international applicant would be an advantage. Isn't this the case?</p>
<p>Avrah, the impression I've been given is that Yale is actively trying to attract more internationals, but the applicant pool is more competitive (as is the case with almost all American colleges).</p>
<p>I'm a bit worried about this as well actually. I'm in my first year of sixth form and I've got no idea how to prepare for the SAT's. Surely american students would do better because their schools prepare them. Whereas we have to study for our A levels as well as the SAT's!</p>
<p>That's true, I didn't even know about the SATs before grade 11. American students know about them much earlier. Pleiad: At least your first language is English (I assume), so you shouldn't have a very big problem.</p>
<p>emmm... Americans normally do WAY more SAT prep than internationals. You have all these fancy SAT prep programs and I have heard that you do other kinds of standardized testing before the SAT (even beginning in elementary school). I had never taken a standardized test until 11th grade and I had to study by myself from a book just so I would know what the SAT WAS. The SAT II's are really hard for internationals because we don't usually take American History classes, my school's History class covers totally different material than the World History SAT II, our Biology covers different things than the Bio SAT II, etc....Basically we're left with languages, math, and literature. Woohooo.</p>
<p>Re. difficulty, I beg to differ. </p>
<p>SAT IIs are ridiculously easy for Singaporeans because our syllabi are so much further ahead. I'm an arts student, i.e. I didn't take any courses in science after our equivalent of 10th grade, but that knowledge-base would already have been enough to, with some revision, achieve a very competitive score... a lot of my classmates chose this route rather than pick SAT IIs in subjects more appropriate for our courseloads. </p>
<p>I took World History (and Math and Lit), and did well, but that was more out of personal interest in that subject than probability in excelling.</p>
<p>ok well I guess it depends on your school system but I really feel that the IB did not give me many subject test options.</p>
<p>Alright, so far, nobody has answered my question ;)</p>
<p>Anyways, I also started preparing for the SATs by my own from the beginning of my Junior year. I'm concerned because my scores are lower than the 25% of admitted students (plus, we have to remember all the legacies and athletes who get in with lower scores, so for the 'normal' people pool, the 25% is probably much higher). Moreover, crazy asians (btw, I'm an asian too... Korean, haha..) prep like mad, which doesn't really help other applicants :(</p>
<p>what are your scores, then? yes, in general, it is bad for any applicant to be below the 50% mark unless they have something crazy going for them, like an athletic hook. what is preventing you from scoring well? it's not the language barrier, because you speak english like a native-speaker.</p>
<p>what do you guys about CR 800 M 680 W780? I'm sooooo concerned about my math score, but it's too late to take them again (Taking math 2 in jan for wharton). is math going to cause big problems for admission to yale etc?</p>
<p>You're fine, annabell. Quit stressing out. :)</p>
<p>well, actually I'm probably exaggerating. My mock tests (timed under real conditions) are about 2000~2190. But still, I'm concerned, because my scores keep on fluctuating only between that range. I cant seem to break the 2200 barrier.. :(</p>
<p>for internationals, I want you guys to know that Yale evaluates you on the basis of your background. so being international does not necessary mean disadvantage or advantage. it is about how you could have done and how you acutally did it ;) hopes this helps.</p>