<p>I am a permanent resident and have been living in Michigan ever since I immigrated to the US. Still, UM classified me as a non-resident for not being a US citizen. This got me very worried because I've always thought and read here that being considered an out-stater hurts admission chances. Yet, Umich told me that it only affects financial aid and not admission. Is that true? I am utterly confused now. Are they saying that because I live and study in Michigan, the classification doesn't affect me? Or...? HELP!</p>
<p>Okay, couple of practical points for you.</p>
<p>First off, fight the residency classification immediately. IMHO, they just automatically do that to legal permanent Michigan residents who possess a green card. You will need to prove you do not have financial ties in other countries, etc. and that your intent for some time has been, you know, “permanent.” My son, by way of example, had lived and attended school in Michigan for seven years prior. I own a business in MI, pay Michigan taxes, own property, disposed of international property, and am married to an American…and yet they still classified us as International until I went to the lengths required to “prove” permanency. So, get going on the paperwork. It takes them a few months to get it sorted!</p>
<p>Secondly, are you in a position to afford OOS rates? Because same are super high. Think the COA calcs are in the neighborhood of about $53,000 a year now days. If you do not get successfully reclassified, it’s entirely possible that UMich would not be a financial fit for you.</p>
<p>Also, if you are not classified as In-State, your full need, if you have any (according to the U’s definition, not yours) will NOT necessarily be met.</p>
<p>Lastly, the proportion of students who matriculate to UMich each year is approximately 60 - 65% historically. 6% are International. Roughly 30 - 35 +% are out of state.</p>
<p>So whatever they SAY, it’s pretty clear that the ODDS are reduced for OOS and International applicants for all practical intents and purposes.</p>
<p>Do not delay one minute going through the hoops to prove the permanency of your residency in Michigan. I feel there is a good bit at stake for you on several fronts.</p>
<p>@lolifofo Please look through this link [Residency</a> - Office of the Registrar](<a href=“http://ro.umich.edu/resreg.php]Residency”>Residency | Office of the Registrar) </p>
<p>It will explain specifically what counts as residency, and how to petition if you believe you qualify.</p>
<p>LOlifoto I’m guessing you didn’t spend all 4 years in Michigan high schools…what you are experiencing is normal. Just follow the directions, fill out the paperwork and keep on top of it with University of Michigan. Because there are so many people that want to go to UofM and since UofM is a public university they are pretty careful about classification. </p>
<p>As far a preference it’s all relative…
For fall 2012, U-M admitted more than 15,500 students. Acceptance rates are generally higher among in-state students than their out-of-state counterparts.</p>
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<p>The freshman class is around 6,000 and this year around 43% were Out of state. Just eyeballing the total number of applications, percents accepted, yields…looks to me like there is a big numbers difference between the number of in-state offers of admissions and the yield of kids that attend and the numbers of out of state offers and then number who attend – if anything it looks (and I did not get the calculator out) like they may offer MORE spots to OSS to yield the 43% of the freshman class or a higher percentage of the offers. The opposite of what you are speculating. I’m sure some finance manger can run the numbers much faster and more accurately than I can eyeballing.</p>
<p>I applied early action, so whatever form I fill won’t be processed until after their decision is released. I am doomed, and it’s all their fault. Btw I attended a Michigan high school for all years…Ugh I can’t believe this is happening.</p>
<p>Not sure that’s entirely true…I think there is both the chance you’d be admitted on the strength of your application regardless, or the chance you’d be deferred and later admitted or not. The residency status won’t ultimately affect that, but getting the paperwork in will improve your chances.</p>
<p>The admission office claims the oos students are reviewed with the same criteria as in state students during an information session I attended in the end of September. I don’t buy it though. I think they are just trying to encourage more oos applicants. In reality, I’ve seen many in state students getting in with credentials far below the average for admission. Of course, that is based on the small sample size of observations I have.</p>
<p>There are more OOS and international students applying for less openings</p>
<p>There are less IS students applying for more openings…</p>
<p>They want to keep that 2:1 ratio, so this will remain the case. </p>
<p>If you consider the qualification of applicants to be distributed that same for IS and OOS students, and consider there are 3000 OOS applicants and 1,500 IS applicants. If you take twice as many IS as OOS students, you’ll be reaching deeper into the IS pool and just skimming the top of the OOS pool. So you’ll have tougher competition.</p>
<p>If Michigan does not meet demonstrated need for OOS students, then are they truly “need blind” for OOS students? All things being the same, between 2 OOS students, offering admission to the person who does not need and FA will potentially increase their yield.</p>
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<p>I do not believe UofM has EVER released the number of OSS applicants vs. IS applicants. If so, someone post a link because I’ve always wondered about that.</p>
<p>We do know they accept around 15,000 kids total and that 43% of them this year were OSS and we know from “Ted’s” comment I posted that over 60% of IS students accept and only roughly 22% of Out of state students accept and that total of IS and OSS is around 6,000.</p>
<p>There is no fixed ratio or quota for in state or oos students at umich.</p>
<p>Nope, there is no “quota”…the original question was whether being “out of state” “hurts” an application and the answer is not really because they accept a greater number of out of state applicants than in-state because of the lower yield rates.</p>
<p>NOW we don’t know what the percents are of the total 32,000+ applicants are IS to OSS, we only know the total amount admitted and the total yield and the percents to get to those yields and the percent of IS and percent of OSS from last year. In other words we don’t know how many of the 32,000+ applicants are in-state and how many of the 32,000 are out of state, but I don’t think it “hurts” to be an out of state applicant.</p>
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<p>Our DS sure hopes not. It’ll be his turn to try next year. I hope what the U is saying is true.</p>
<p>They classified my D as a non-resident when she applied EA in Fall of 2011 for Fall '12 admission. I called their office and they said it was because she had done a one week pre-college program at Barnard. They fixed it right away. The problem with her is, I waited until the financial aid package came, in March, to call. They had to reconfigure the FA package so we didn’t know until it was almost time to put a deposit down. </p>
<p>My S just got the same email from Michigan for his EA application this year. My son has not done any programs out of state, has lived in the same zip code since the day he was born (he was even born in this zip code!) and has no reason whatsoever to be questioned. I will call them again and get it straightened out, but I will do it right away this time.</p>
<p>It makes me think they send that letter to everybody in hopes that someone will forgot to take care of it and end up paying OOS tuition simply because they didn’t pay attention.</p>
<p>Actually, it does hurt being an OSS student. When you look at the numbers, in-state students have a much higher rate of acceptance. For the fall of 2012, 9,800 in-state students applied. 3,542 IS students enrolled. The in-state yield is about 66-67%. So in order for 3,542 students to enroll, around 5,300 IS students had to be accepted. 5,300/9,800, gives us an IS acceptance rate of 54%.
Around 32,740 students applied from OSS for fall 2012, and about 10,250 were admitted. Making the OSS acceptance rate about 31% for that year. </p>
<p>[Enrollment</a> trends: Out-of-state students form 42.6 percent of University of Michigan’s freshman class](<a href=“http://www.annarbor.com/news/university-of-michigan-sees-increase-in-out-of-state-students/]Enrollment”>Enrollment trends: Out-of-state students form 42.6 percent of University of Michigan's freshman class)</p>
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<p>^ Thanks for the info. I remember reading the acceptance rate for in state and oos to be around 50% and 30% respectively, but I could not find the source again.</p>
<p>Somewhere on UM’s website they offer roughly the following: 1) order of 46,000 applicants; 2) order of 10,000 in state and 36,000 out of state; 3) in-state yield of around 70% and out of state at around 40%; 4) ultimate ratio of in to out of state is now around 60%/40%…this is all from memory, but it i definitely published an on the UM gateway.</p>