Does everyone have their popcorn ready for Harry & Meghan?

Perhaps H and M realize they can’t make interest in them completely stop. But rather than passively sit and take the lies (as they see it), they will tear the facade down and spotlight the manipulation being perpetrated by the media. For them it’s especially difficult when 1. they were obvious participants in the facade and 2. family is involved.

Someone above mentioned regrets. I believe only time will tell. It could go in many directions for Harry and Meghan. All I know is that I bear them no ill will.

Lastly, I had some time so I watched a few videos after googling “Prince William Harry joint interviews”.

The first one I watched was from an official joint outing in Feb 2018 about the Royal Foundation charitable work. I found it interesting because you can see the passion from Meghan which in hindsight probably wasn’t ideal. Knowing Harry and Meghan left the foundation in June 2019, I was curious.

Then there’s a video from Heads Together and their support of seeking mental health (April 2017). I like Kate in this one.

And since sibling rivalry is a topic, there is video from the BBC (June 2009) that seems to indicate its existence.

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Today’s daily New Yorker cartoon:

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So true. I’ll have to keep repeating that to myself. My desire to counter the hate needs to take a break. Thanks! :smile:

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Yup. Its counterintuitive but good for making money and settle scores.

Yes. Like the Express and the Sun, all right wing.

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Does he pay extra for security for Andrew to live away from Windsor or the other estates that already have, and need, a lot of security? I’m seriously asking because I thought Andrew was basically a stay at home guy now, playing golf at Windsor, going to official events only when other royals would also be there, like the Queen’s funeral. Harry and Meghan got security paid for when they were doing things for the Queen’s funeral (the walk about, the standing guard at the coffin) but if they wanted to go somewhere else (a party, nightclub, theater - not that they were doing those things the funeral week) then I don’t think they got security. I think that same thing would happen if they go to the coronation. And to me that seems fair. They are invited to an event and need to be safe while they are at the event. If they want to go other places, they need to take care of their own security. If they lived in Windsor, they’d get security.

There are some people in the US government who get security all the time (president, VP, their families) and others who get it only when working (senate, congress). Nancy Pelosi had it all the time as Speaker, but that didn’t help her husband (really, I don’t understand why her house wasn’t more secure). There were still photos of her getting her hair done, sans mask, during covid so the security isn’t going to prevent the photos.

I would be happy if I never heard of Harry and Meghan again.

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Because Andrew is follow the Firm’s rules.

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And yet here you are.

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Prince Andrew does not have government provided security. King Charles pays for some security, but not as extensive as he once had as a working Royal.

Prince Andrew dealt ‘shattering blow’ as he seeks private security | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

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Claiming they need the money rings hollow for those inheriting $50 million. Even paying up to $5 million annually for security ( which is what Microsoft paid for the Gates family) is doable. All decisions have tradeoffs. He could have remained in the UK and not have to pay for his own security. He chose to leave and should have understood the consequences.
I suppose he could make additional money doing all sorts of things. Remember when Fergie was a saleslady for Weight Watchers?

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If you are privileged, you feel entitled to have your favorite cake and eat it too.

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Question for those who read the book.

Harry discusses being in the car with his Dad and William. His Dad says he can’t afford to pay for them. But the deal is their expenses are paid and they do Royal duties. (Harry was flabbergasted).

My question is, was Charles insinuating that he wouldn’t pay for Meghan to perform Royal Duties, or that they were going to have to make their own living like the York cousins?

I haven’t read the book, but this might partially answer your question:

“ He (Harry) writes that, when he tells his father that he’s thinking of proposing to Meghan, Charles cautions that “there’s not enough money to go around”—he’s already paying for William and Kate. This flummoxes Harry; as Prince of Wales, his father is entitled to the income of the Duchy of Cornwall, which last year was more than twenty million pounds. With Elizabeth’s death, William will get that cash every year, and his father will receive the Sovereign Grant, which for the current year was more than eighty-six million pounds, and is meant in part for the monarch to distribute to lesser family members to support their royal activities, among other things. (The private wealth of the family is another, murkier question.) “Pa wasn’t merely my father, he was my boss, my banker, my comptroller,” and Harry is left feeling that he has fired him “after a lifetime of rendering me otherwise unemployable.””

Source: The New Yorker

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I haven’t read the book.

But sometimes it feels like King Charles wants all of the money. It almost feels like tough luck all you people who weren’t the first born. Figure it out.

It just feels really cheap. I understand wanting the monarchy to shrink. But you have to have a plan, not cutting people off and letting them figure it out. And that’s what it feels like.

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Was he perhaps trying to get the family members to adopt a more modest lifestyle? They did have free lavish accomodations in palaces, security when on official duties, and much of the wardrobe is donated by designers eager to have such high profile models as the royals. Perhaps things like the private planes and expensive vacations needed to be cut back?

I thought I read somewhere that H&M had rented a private plane at over $160k for a flight back to London.

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I wonder how much security Andrew got when he was the Spare? He was in the military most of the adult time he was the Spare, and then he was married. Did Fergie and the girls have a lot of security every time they left their homes? Was Fergie paid a lot as a working royal when her kids were young?

Maybe Harry should have studied history a little better before determining he was being cheated or pushed out. I mean, how much does he think Anne makes for going to a supermarket opening or going to a funeral for Charles?

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I thought this was interesting. Notice the date, April 2012. Prince sets up trust funds for Camilla's son and daughter | London Evening Standard | Evening Standard

I also came across a very nice article about Harry. It counters the Harry is greedy and envious of William narrative.

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They didn’t face the type of death threats H&M were facing. I did link the article somewhere with MI5 discussion the threat levels.

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That sounds like a tabloid statement. $160 for a flight home.

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