<p>Does Harvard have any substance free or alcohol free dorms in Harvard campus for undergrads? Is there such thing or it just exist in imaginations. Since Harvard has very liberal policies, do they cater to the need of people who do not drink?</p>
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<p>that is the strangest question..................ever.</p>
<p>i concur....</p>
<p>Come-on you are talking about The Kremlin on The Charles “the most liberal college in the world.” Harvard does not have officially any alcohol or substance free dorm. </p>
<p>My kidr tells alcohol, and drugs on campus is prevalent. Campus police will not take any action. They only remove any alcohol only after all the kids are out of the room. Harvard tries to protect students from police. Probably Dunster is the closet to being in this category but it is also not alcohol free. My kid has trouble-finding students when kid was looking for potential roommates for sophomore year as a freshman. They are out there but you have to find them. This is the one of the biggest complain I find about Harvard that they do not have substance free dorms.</p>
<p>You will have hard time to find substance free dorm in any IVY leauge campus.</p>
<p>Because sex is such a bad thing.</p>
<p>Is substance free dorms such a bad thing?</p>
<p>A Harvard professor was one of the major advocates of using hallucinogens... What does that tell you about their substance policy?</p>
<p>I find it a little bit strange. Underage drinking is illegal anyways...Why do they have to assign "substance free dorms" when all dorms should be substance free by nature? Not that ANYONE abides by those rules...but there shouldn't really be a separation...that's all I'm sayin'.</p>
<p>Trixee15: Because universities (at least the Ivies and other more liberal/highly ranked universities) don't toe the law with respect to substance and alcohol use, they pursue a harm-reduction strategy that often includes guaranteed immunity if one brings a friend suffering alcohol poisoning to the health center, and other policies. Furthermore, while officially one would be prosecuted if caught drinking, at most Ivies they prefer a strategy of curbing only dangerous behaviors such as large-scale consumption, rather than attempting to entirely stamp out drinking (which often causes worse things to happen, like kids dying because they - or their friends - don't want to get in trouble for drinking).</p>
<p>Substance-free dorms allow kids who really truly don't want to use any alcohol or other substances the opportunity to live in an environment in which the population has self-selected to not do those things. It allows people who really don't like dealing with drunkards etc. the opportunity to do so, while getting rid of the bad side-effects of a blanket prohibitive policy. So while it seems a little odd to have an additional category of "substance-free" when legally all dorms should be that, it is in fact simply pragmatic.</p>
<p>stockmarket: It is incorrect that you will not find substance-free dorms on any Ivy campus. I can't speak for other Ivies, but I know Princeton has substance-free buildings, floors, or other divisions in every residential college. Not many take advantage of them, and those who do often still drink or use other substances outside of their rooms (the rule is no substances allowed in the room), but there are more than enough for those who want them.</p>
<p>Well now that you put it that way it makes sense. I was a little bit confused, but thanks 1of42 for replying. Some student's can get out of hand with the whole drinking thing (although I would hope that Ivy league students are mature enough to be responsible about it) and it makes sense that some people don't want to deal with it. The question just seemed so random to me in the beginning. I don't think Harvard has substance free Freshman or Upperclassmen dorms do they? I know Mass hall is considered pretty clean cut.</p>
<p>Harvard has no "themed" dorms of any kind. Everyone lives together. There's an alternative co-op that upperclassmen can choose, but it's small.</p>
<p>The Yard is officially dry. If others' alcohol or drug use is disturbing you, you will be able to go to the proctor or other adults to get the rules enforced.</p>
<p>Harvard alcohol policies have been tightening up lately - check out recent articles in The Crimson for more details.</p>
<p>lmaoo...***?! </p>
<p>"Harvard does not have officially any alcohol or substance free dorm. "
haha duh</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure they have substance free dorms at Penn.</p>
<p>The yard where all of the freshman live are strictly substance free - since they are definitely not old enough. The housing system/lottery is totally random - which means no houses are substance free. All of the students are homogenously mixed between the houses. Of course, there are still drinking age laws, but alcohol is allowed for all kids over 21. Harvard is indeed getting more strict with their efforts on enforcing this - requiring the presence of BAT (beverage authorization teams) at organization parties and no longer providing party grants for alcohol at parties. There is definitely a significant minority on campus that does not drink or do drugs, and they are not too hard to find.</p>
<p>Yale definitely does not have any substance-free dorms. I haven't found that "substances" have been a problem, though. If you don't drink, then if people in rooms around you are drinking, but quietly, they won't disturb you anyway unless you're some kind of crazy puritan. If they're partying loudly, they will be broken up by the police. </p>
<p>What I've seen is that alcohol laws are just not strictly enforced on most college campuses. If people aren't playing music at 100 decibels or hanging naked out of a window, they won't be charged or even caught. But nondrinkers here don't really have a problem...like I said, really disruptive parties are quickly broken up, and nothing else will bug you. Also remember that most dorms after freshman year include people from all of the upper classes. This means that at least half the people in non-freshman dorms will be 21. It's perfectly legal. If you're so sensitive that you can't stand any alcohol, I would suggest going to a university with a very strict dry campus policy.</p>