Does Sports help with getting in?

<p>My neise is VERY good at Track...
Looked at the roster for Girls track, she would be the fastest girl on the Yale team.
Grades;4.45 gpa, 13 out of 340 in her class
only a Junior so two more years to get faster, took ACT on Sat.</p>

<p>Unless your niece is a recruited athlete, no, athletics will not give her more of an advantage than other extracurricular activities. In fact, over the past 10 years or so, Yale has actually deemphasized sports in the admissions process. See:[Recruitment</a> caps come at a cost | Yale Daily News](<a href=“http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2012/mar/26/recruitment-caps-come-cost/]Recruitment”>http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2012/mar/26/recruitment-caps-come-cost/)</p>

<p>For more information on Yale Sports and the Ivy League recruitment process, see: <a href=“http://www.yalebulldogs.com/information/recruiting/index[/url]”>http://www.yalebulldogs.com/information/recruiting/index&lt;/a&gt; and [The</a> Ivy League](<a href=“http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/information/psa/index]The”>http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/information/psa/index)</p>

<p>Since you’ve compared your niece’s times to those of current Yale runners, I think it’d be very worthwhile to contact the coach at Yale – at least get on his/her radar. Now is not too early. Good luck.</p>

<p>thanks that’s what I will do I will contact the coach</p>

<p>Thats not good that they are down playing Sports… :frowning:
kind works against her…</p>

<p>how do i get her to become a recruited athlete?</p>

<ol>
<li><p>She starts by filling out the interest form: <a href=“https://secureq.scoutwareforms.net/q/yale_mwtcc/c24r1.html[/url]”>https://secureq.scoutwareforms.net/q/yale_mwtcc/c24r1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
<li><p>She emails Yale’s Field & Track coaches to express her interest. Their names and email addresses are listed at the bottom: [Yale</a> Athletics Staff Directory - Yale Bulldogs](<a href=“http://www.yalebulldogs.com/information/directory/index]Yale”>Yale University - Official Athletics Website)</p></li>
<li><p>If she has film, she sends a DVD, along with her best times to the coaches.</p></li>
<li><p>If she has won medals and awards, she sends a copy of her official times and certificates to the coaches. Ditto with press clippings and photos.</p></li>
<li><p>She places phone calls to the coaches to see if they have received her materials. </p></li>
<li><p>She gets her high school coach to push for her by having him/her phone the Yale coaches and talk her up.</p></li>
<li><p>She tries to get invited to campus where she will spend a training session with Yale’s team, so the coaches can observe her.</p></li>
<li><p>She attends “recruiting showcases” that the coaches will be attending.</p></li>
<li><p>She does the same thing at a small handful of colleges (3-8 of them).</p></li>
<li><p>She tries to interest a few colleges (Yale included) to commit to push for her in the admissions process. </p></li>
<li><p>She simultaneously registers with NCCAA Clearinghouse: [NCAA</a> Eligibility Center](<a href=“http://web1.ncaa.org/ECWR2/NCAA_EMS/NCAA.jsp]NCAA”>http://web1.ncaa.org/ECWR2/NCAA_EMS/NCAA.jsp)</p></li>
</ol>

<p>The process is like looking for a job and getting an employer to notice you. And, as in life, it’s always best to have multiple employers showing an interest. Your niece has to want it!</p>

<p>thank you …
you seem to know ALOT about this… </p>

<p>WOW we have some work to do…</p>

<p>recruiting showcases… Where do you find if one is near where you live? She live in North West Indiana about 30 miles from Chicago…</p>

<p>Should we wait until end of this season her times she be better then last years, because first impression are everything…</p>

<p>There are showcases all over the country. Yale’s Track Coaches can tell your niece which ones they are attending. Most college coaches spend the month of July traveling the country to various showcases. You can also find them by googling “field and track college recruting showcases.” Here are a few of the sites that came up.
<a href=“http://www.athleticscholarships.net/college-track-and-field-camps.htm[/url]”>http://www.athleticscholarships.net/college-track-and-field-camps.htm&lt;/a&gt;
[In</a> Their Own League: The Ivy League Recruiting Process](<a href=“http://www.berecruited.com/resources/recruiting-advice/the-ivy-league-recruiting-process]In”>http://www.berecruited.com/resources/recruiting-advice/the-ivy-league-recruiting-process)</p>

<p>Do not wait until the end of the season. Coaches understand that most high school athletes will improve their times from sophomore to senior year and it often takes months to get a coaches attention. BTW: If a college is really interested in your niece and it has the budget – and Yale may not, because sports are no longer a high priority – a college will fly, at the university’s expense, your niece out for a day to train with the team. There are several books you can buy on the college recruiting process that may be helpful. Among them are:
<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Athletic-Recruiting-Scholarship-Guide-Mazzoni/dp/0966355741[/url]”>http://www.amazon.com/Athletic-Recruiting-Scholarship-Guide-Mazzoni/dp/0966355741&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.collegesportsrecruitingbook.com/[/url]”>http://www.collegesportsrecruitingbook.com/&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.athleticscholarshipbook.com/[/url]”>http://www.athleticscholarshipbook.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>thank you again…</p>

<p>you are very helpful…</p>

<p>Good luck to your niece. My son played baseball in high school and had big dreams about playing D1. As a freshman, he watched many of his teammates go through the recruiting process. Although my son opted not to go the recruiting route, he now plays on Yale’s Club Baseball Team for fun.</p>

<p>what does she REALLY need on ACT score SAT… ect…</p>

<p>See Page 9 of 2011-2012 Common Data Set: [Common</a> Data Set (CDS) | Office of Institutional Research](<a href=“http://oir.yale.edu/common-data-set]Common”>Common Data Set | Office of Institutional Research)</p>

<p>Yale’s 25th percentile = 2110 SAT or 31 ACT, so she would need at least those scores or better.</p>

<p>Although some have speculated that recruited athletes scores at most colleges are below the 25th percentile, the several recruited athletes that I know at Yale are more in the 50th to 75th percentile.</p>

<p>Some of the comments above are kind of misleading so I’ll try to help clear it up-- if your niece is a recruited athlete and ends up being offered a spot by the coach, it WILL help in admissions. I believe that one poster above is saying that if she tries to get in without any recruitment from the coach and just hopes to get in and walk on the team, the sport will not help in admissions and she will be on an equal level with non-athletes. Also check to see if her times would be competitive at Ivy League championships, because the coaches ultimately want to score and win there. I’m going through recruiting for a different sport at Yale, and as far as I know they are fully funded (other than not having scholarships obviously) because they paid for my official visit completely.</p>

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Roughly speaking, a 2100 SAT or 32 ACT is a minimum threshold. Better yet, have her calculate her AI here
[Academic</a> Index3 - College Confidential](<a href=“http://www.collegeconfidential.com/academic_index3.htm]Academic”>http://www.collegeconfidential.com/academic_index3.htm)
You can use an ACT/SAT conversion table. I think a 220 or so will be sufficient if she can get the coach to support her application. As Gibby noted, of the Ivy League schools, Yale is the stingiest in the number of recruiting slots they give their coaches. If she’s open to Harvard or Princeton and her times are competitive there, she’d probably have an easier path. One other unfortunate thing. Anecdotally, word is that athletes at Yale are beginning to get a cold shoulder from the general student body, probably because of the diminishing institutional support for athletics at Yale.</p>

<p>Also, go to the athletic recruiting subforum [Athletic</a> Recruits - College Confidential](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/athletic-recruits/]Athletic”>Athletic Recruits - College Confidential Forums)
You’ll find lots of info and help there.</p>

<p>Good luck to your niece.</p>

<p>A word about the general “stinginess” of the student body towards athletes- my friends who are currently athletes there acknowledged the coldness, particularly from the president, toward the student athletes. However, this president recently left his position and Yale is currently searching for a new one. In my friends’ words, “anyone that they could possibly hire is more supportive than him.” It could be good timing for incoming athletes!</p>

<p>She would be competitive at Ivy League championships, I looked it up she would’ve placed 6th in the 100m and 10th in the 200m. and thank you for the info about scores needed…</p>

<p>she would’ve been very competitive at Ivy League championships, placing 6th in the 100m and 10th in the 200m.
So the president is gone?</p>

<p>President Levin is leaving office at the end of the year, I believe. The search process for his successor is in full swing now.</p>

<p>It’s true that Yale has taken some steps to reduce the emphasis on athletics the past few years, but that does not mean that it has abandoned competitive athletics by any means. </p>

<p>I am sure that a kid with appropriate grades and test scores, who would have been top-10 in two events at the Ivy Championships as a high school sophomore, and who looks like she is improving as expected during her junior year, would be a real candidate for recruitment by Yale or any other Ivy League team – at least so long as it didn’t have two or three sprinters better than she in its current freshman class. Regardless of who is president. However, she may decide that she likes one or another school better if there is more support for athletic teams there.</p>

<p>she would be one of the fastest on the team right now… looked at the roster…</p>

<p>This is a very good article about the academic index and Ivy admissions:</p>

<p><a href=“Before Athletic Recruiting in the Ivy League, Some Math - The New York Times”>Before Athletic Recruiting in the Ivy League, Some Math - The New York Times; </p>

<p>If she gets one of the track coach’s admission slots (and there aren’t many of those), she will have a much, much easier time getting admitted.</p>

<p>Bear in mind that all college coaches contact countless kids, court many, and actually offer few an admissions slot. They dump many, so she can’t think that she has one of the slots until she gets a likely letter.</p>

<p>Just for this reason, she should keep many schools in the game. If her times in high school are comparable to those at the Ivy championships, many, many schools will be interested in her.</p>

<p>By the way, I read somewhere (can’t find the source right now) that Princeton’s average academic index for athletes is 214, and the school’s average overall if 228. I would guess that Yale’s numbers are in the same range.</p>