<p>I was just informed that a 10th grader at my niece's school on LI received an oral commitment from yale! And here I was thinking yale was a center of higher academic learning not a sports academy.</p>
<p>What is the nature of this oral commitment? What sport is it? I’m only aware of Men’s lacrosse recruiting HS juniors</p>
<p>It’s not uncommon in women’s soccer.</p>
<p>But, don’t worry, they have to take the SAT early and score well, and they have to have good grades. It’s not just “Oh, you are playing on the women’s national team, come on in.”</p>
<p>Though, it’s common for the best soccer players to know where they are going by the end of sophomore year and start of junior year.</p>
<p>[Ryan</a> Hitchcock Heads to Yale in 2014](<a href=“http://www.antonnews.com/manhassetpress/sports/17898-ryan-hitchcock-heads-to-yale-in-2014.html]Ryan”>http://www.antonnews.com/manhassetpress/sports/17898-ryan-hitchcock-heads-to-yale-in-2014.html)</p>
<p>this is a sophomore.</p>
<p>OK Parentgrad…same thread in Harvard forum from you. Stop stirring the pot for fun…</p>
<p>I was just about to say the same thing, vlines, that this poster just started and identical thread but claimed there that the school in question was Harvard <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14056887-post1.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/14056887-post1.html</a> Really???</p>
<p>Parentgrad: OK we get it. You’re the guardian of Yale and Harvard’s academic purity.</p>
<p>So what? I’m sure these kids are talented and they obviously have something to contribute to the university. I’m also sure that the staff at Yale understands what’s good for their institution much better than we do, so who are we to complain about their admissions policies?</p>
<p>both harvard and yale have orally committed to 10th graders at my nieces school, really not looking for comments from you rather the college reps.</p>
<p>I don’t think the college reps usually respond to posts on here? At least, not that I’ve seen.</p>
<p>For some schools there are reps. I know TCNJ, UVA and Drexel had at least one regularly posting and answering questions. Doubt there are any for the Ivy leagues though…</p>
<p>The author of the article made a mistake. Ivy League Conference Rules stipulate that all schools – Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Columbia, Dartmouth, UPenn, and Cornell – cannot give an athlete MORE in financial aid than a non-athelete, so ALL financial aid is based upon need. See: [The</a> Ivy League](<a href=“http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/information/psa/index]The”>http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/information/psa/index)</p>
<p>The principles that govern admission of Ivy students who are athletes are the same as for all other Ivy applicants. Each Ivy institution:</p>
<ul>
<li><p>admits all candidates including athletes on the basis of their achievements and potential as students and on their other personal accomplishments;</p></li>
<li><p>provides financial aid to all students only on the basis of need, as determined by each institution; and,</p></li>
<li><p>provides that no student be required to engage in athletic competition as a condition of receiving financial aid.</p></li>
</ul>
<p>Admissions decisions will be communicated only by official written notification from Admissions Offices, by notification in Early Action, Early Decision or “regular” processes, or by “likely letters” after October 1, which are confirmed by one of those notifications. No other indication of a possible positive admissions result is or should be considered reliable.</p>
<p>The article is rubbish. Club coaches love to issue releases about their players getting recruited and being offered scholarships. Quotes from anyone representing Yale are conspicuous by their absence. That’s because Ivy coaches know that it doesn’t mean a thing until admissions give the green light, and that can’t happen unless test scores and GPA meet certain standards.</p>
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<p>Then you’re woefully misinformed, no Y adcoms here. Just us lowly common folk, but you’ll have to listen since YOU chose to post. And you joined solely for bringing up the ‘issue’ of the role of sports in college admissions. Must be a slow news day.</p>
<p>Also, FYI: <a href=“Before Athletic Recruiting in the Ivy League, Some Math - The New York Times”>Before Athletic Recruiting in the Ivy League, Some Math - The New York Times;
<p>But there is one thing the Ivy League does that truly sets it apart from its sporting brethren nationwide: it tracks and scrutinizes the finite, detailed academic credentials of every recruited athlete welcomed through the doors of the eight member institutions. </p>
<p>To accomplish this, the league came up with a measurement called the Academic Index, which gives all prospective high school recruits a number, roughly from 170 to 240, that summarizes their high school grade-point averages and scores on standardized tests like the SAT. The index number of every admitted recruit is shared among the member institutions to guarantee that no vastly underqualified recruit has been admitted at a rival institution and to allow member universities to compare classwide index averages for athletes against similar averages for the overall student body.</p>
<p>Perhaps the most talked about goal of the A.I. is the academic credential minimum it establishes, a number below which virtually no Ivy League recruit can be admitted. This summer, that floor was raised from an Academic Index of 171 to 176, which roughly translates to a B student (3.0 on a 4.0 scale) with a score of 1140 on the old two-part SAT.</p>
<p>@gibby:</p>
<p>Even with the raise, that’s a pretty low floor. I wonder how many B students with high-500 scores on the SAT are going to do well academically at HYP etc?</p>
<p>^^^ <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/1307106-really-harvard-really-2.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/1307106-really-harvard-really-2.html</a></p>
<p>A comment on the Harvard thread (of the same subject) by the same OP:
“. . .176 AI is the absolute floor to be considered. In reality, every Harvard team over the past 4 years has had a team AI average over 200. 700 per section on the SAT is the general guideline to be in the recruiting zone.”</p>
<p>I imagine Yale is the same!</p>
<p>To summarize:
The only financial aid that can be offered is need based and that will be decided in the student’s senior year. Athletes families submit financial aid docs the summer before the junior year for a financial aid pre-read. No extra $$$ for athletes beyond demonstrated need.</p>
<p>At the end of the junior year, the coaches will request SAT or ACT, SAT II and AP scores as well as a transcript. Admissions will review and come back with a proceed, proceed with caution or a negative response. After that time the coaches could say how it looks and after an official visit and if everything lines up, that after October 1 a likely letter will be be coming from admissions.</p>
<p>So, whenever you hear these stories or a doctors kid saying that he got a full ride to an Ivy, it just is not the truth.</p>
<p>My D knows an athlete who received a commitment from an Ivy as a junior–he’s now a senior, and it’s still not clear he will actually get to go because of his grades and scores. Those commitments are conditional.</p>
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<p>Yale is notorious for being anti-athlete. I mean, they really, really have the fewest spots of any school that has D1 sports. They are the least active recruiting college of any of them.</p>
<p>If they are committing to a student, I can promise the student is academically qualified.</p>
<p>No athletes think “Yale.” They just don’t. Student-athletes think Yale. </p>
<p>my daughter is a recruited athlete, and the idea that Yale would even consider her is laughable, which is not the case with Dartmouth, for example, or some other Ivies. FWIW</p>