Does the Ivy League offer Astrology?

<p>What school offers Astrology?</p>

<p>Both the Western and Chinese Astrology.
As well as Norse, Celtic etc.</p>

<p>I was wondering where [url=<a href="http://www.novareinna.com/%5DNovarienna%5B/url"&gt;http://www.novareinna.com/]Novarienna[/url&lt;/a&gt;] got her studies about astrology</p>

<p>Astrology is a pseudoscience. You might find it discussed in a history class, since it’s part of the history of western thought. But it’s very unlikely you will find it, or any other form of sooth-saying or fortune-telling, taught for its own sake or taken seriously at any respectable university.</p>

<p>“Pseudoscience”?</p>

<p>Well, that’s certainly no barrier to being taken seriously at Harvard. </p>

<p>After all, what’s the largest undergraduate concentration (to the uninitiated, “concentration” is Harvard-speak for major)?</p>

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<p>[The</a> Harvard Crimson :: Opinion :: Economic Surplus](<a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=523697]The”>http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=523697)</p>

<p>[Greg</a> Mankiw’s Blog: Is economics a science?](<a href=“http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2006/05/is-economics-science.html]Greg”>Greg Mankiw's Blog: Is economics a science?)</p>

<p>(Of course, Professor Mankiw’s not-entirely-unbiased answer to this question begins with a “y.” [As the old saying goes: Economists do a great job of predicting the past.])</p>

<p>Neither of those links supports your insinuation that economics is a pseudoscience.</p>

<p>Obviously, as Coureur points out, Astrology isn’t a discipline that would be offered at any university. But, the variants of belief in different cultures is something that might be a subject for research in a Folklore and Mythology class, and might be addressable as well in a Social Anthropology class.</p>

<p>Economics is far from a pseudoscience. It is a very logical framework built around why people make the decisions they do.</p>

<p>Economics is based on real concepts people actually have control over, like interest rates, lending, fiscal/monetary policies, banking etc… </p>

<p>Just because it doesn’t work out the way we always want it to doesn’t mean it’s a pseudoscience. </p>

<p>On the other hand, determining the individual fortunes of a species at the outer spiral of a mid sized galaxy based on the most vague patterns from a specific earth culture, in which the revolution of the planet around a central star determines “your sign” by examining photonic emissions from stars that take thousands of years to reach us is pure undisputable science.</p>

<p>Keenly, I sense some sarcasm.</p>

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<p>Not Astrology, that’s for sure.</p>

<p>I scrolled through the entire course offering in the Folklore and Mythology program at Harvard, and I couldn’t find any course that specifically mentioned Astrology in the title or brief course description. If they cover it at all it’s probably in this course:</p>

<p>[Folklore and Mythology 90f. The Moonbat Monologues: Tinfoil Hats, Conspiracies, and Popular Culture]
Catalog Number: 6106
Stephen A. Mitchell
Half course (fall term). Hours to be arranged.</p>

<p>Economics, whether or not you consider it pseudoscience, is in a different league from astrology. </p>

<p>Economics has at least some relationship to data, and data can shift people’s opinions about economic questions.<br>
Astrology does not even pretend to be about data, nor is there any clearcut opinion for data to try and shift.</p>

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<p>That sounds like a great course! :slight_smile: And while the subject matter is something of a hoot, the question of why human beings are suckers for that kind of thing is a pretty relevant and useful topic.</p>

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Yeah, but which one makes more accurate predictions?</p>

<p>Economics makes more accurate predictions.</p>

<p>Astrology is a pseudoscience as other posters indicated, </p>

<p>It is of interest as a topic in the history of ancient science and a topic in the sociology of science (e.g., why do people believe weird thing?).</p>

<p>These courses were found in the Egyptology Dept. at Brown, but these are serious scholarly studies, not the pseudoscience of contemporary astology.:</p>

<p>ASTRONOMY, DIVINATION AND POLITICS IN THE ANCIENT WORLD AWAS 1700
Instructor: John Steele
This course will explore the relationship between astronomy, divination and politics in the ancient world. The sky provided ancient cultures with many possibilities for observing occurrences that be interpreted as omens. In many cultures, celestrial omens were directed towards the king and his government. As a result, interpreting and controlling celestrial omens became an important political activity. In this course, we will explore how and why astronomical events were used politically in ancient Mesopotamia, the Greco-Roman world, and ancient and medieval China. No prior knowledge of astronomy is necessary for this course.
-No prerequisites.
-Not Offered 2009-2010.</p>

<p>DIVINATION IN ANCIENT MESOPOTAMIA AWAS 1750
Instructor: John Steele
The interpretation of natural events as portents of good or bad outcomes played and important role in religious, political, scholarly and everyday life in ancient Mesopotamia. In this course we will study Mesopotamian omen literature from textual, scientific, philosophical and cultural viewpoints in order to understand how divination operated and what it was used for.
-No prerequisites.
-Offered Semester II.</p>

<p>I believe I’ve seen other courses at other universities on similar topics. Try History of Science Depts. or Near Eastern Studies or South Asian Studies Depts.</p>

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Since you can find an economist to predict essentially all possible outcomes, I guess that’s true, in a sense.</p>

<p>Astrology is a pseudoscience because it does not adhere to the Scientific Method. Astrology would need to be observable, testable, repeatable, etc.</p>

<p>Economics, although fallable, does have competing theories that can be tested against each other to predict real world events. Then, the outcomes are used to refine the theories.</p>

<p>Can you say the same about Astrology?</p>

<p>Who is saying Astrology is a science? It could still exist under a similar label as Literature or History.</p>

<p>Colleges are made to impart knowledge to students and Astrology is still knowledge so I don’t see what’s wrong with it.</p>

<p>Though you could probably just get some books.</p>

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<p>That’s the theory, at least.</p>

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<p>Colleges are not made to impart false knowledge and nonsense. As I said in the post #2 it would be appropriate for a serious university to discuss astrology as a part of the development of Western thought, but to actually teach Astrology for its own sake as a legitimate academic discipline would be laughable.</p>

<p>Quite the enlightened one, eh? I think that colleges tend to teach classes that are supported by at least some evidence.</p>