<p>I heard Tulane will pay most of the expenses if your parents fall below a certain pay grade, is that true?</p>
<p>Dream on! Well, I’m sure there are some exceptions, but I know many locals who get nothing from Tulane whose parents make well under 70K. But that may be a local phenomenon.</p>
<p>Tulane doesn’t have the multi-billion $$ endowment that most of the Ivies have, so it is not practical for them to have the same programs as Harvard, Princeton, etc. Having said that, Tulane, like most schools, will offer need based aid for admitted students. Need based means more than income, although that is usually the biggest factor. Also unlike the Ivies, Tulane will take merit into account in determining how much of the need-based financial aid is a scholarship and how much is in loans.</p>
<p>I would point out that Tulane ranked #13 in the Princeton Review’s list of “students happy with financial aid”. Perhaps if the Tulane endowment gets into the $5B range (in today’s $ value), they will be able to offer an even more generous program.</p>
<p>see my response to your Colorado thread.</p>
<p>Here’s the information on the “no loan” tuition if your family makes under $75K [Tulane</a> Admission: Scholarships & Aid](<a href=“http://admission.tulane.edu/aid/index.php]Tulane”>http://admission.tulane.edu/aid/index.php)
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<p>thanks jym - I missed that section.</p>
<p>very good for this southern ivy…i know rice already did something like it…</p>
<p>cornell just started too!</p>
<p>Southern Ivy, LOL. You sound like fallen chemist.</p>
<p>southern ivy isnt my term…i found it on wikipedia…to describe southern top schools such as baylor, smu, rice and tulane…</p>
<p>Hi Harry!!!</p>
<p>Harry and I don’t agree on much. He is inflammatory, condescendingly disrespectful to other posters, and very negative on Tulane for reasons he has never explained. Not to mention factually inaccurate at times. Nonetheless, I also dislike the term “Southern Ivy”, although in the case of Tulane not for the reason Harry does. It is the same as schools calling themselves the “Harvard of the South/Midwest/name your region”. They simply are not, in ways that are both positive and negative, as those terms would be assessed by the majority of people. For example, Harvard has something like a 6% acceptance rate and an 80% yield. I didn’t look up the exact numbers, but in any case they are among the highest in the country. Most other Ivies are not very different than this. Tulane, Wash U, Duke, Vandy, you name it, they are not in this stratosphere. Also the average SAT scores, etc. of the Ivy students are considerably higher than these other schools that were named above by ResurgamBell. This is not being critical of ResurgamBell in the least, as I agree that the Tulane program is a very good thing to help lower income families. Also, they were simply quoting Wikipedia. So I want to be clear on that. I would also mention that schools like Michigan and UNC are called “Public Ivies”. Yeah, there is so much similarity between Michigan and its freshman class of 6,000 and Harvard at 1/3 that size, not to mention all the other differences.</p>
<p>On the other side of the comparison of Tulane, et. al. to an Ivy, it is also a very different experience. There is no question that at Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Penn and Columbia, the undergrads, especially freshmen and sophomores, often don’t see the big name profs that make these schools famous. Dartmouth and Brown are more undergraduate oriented, but also a lot of people will tell you Brown isn’t what it used to be either. You see that all the time on these posts, and living in Rhode Island I am pretty familiar with the situation there. It is still a very good school, but there are a number of non-Ivy schools I would say are academically superior. Anyway, I digress. The point is that I don’t think schools like Tulane and many of the others want to be like their Ivy League brethren in the sense of being so graduate program/Nobel Prize oriented. They are far more focused on the undergraduate student while maintaining very strong research programs. Research at the level of the Harvard/Princeton’s of the world? Generally no, although there are always individual exceptions. But that is what grad school is for, and these schools prepare a student for research at top places like Harvard, etc. very very well. IMHO, the Tulane/Vandy/Wash U type of schools represent an extremely attractive melding of the research university with the LAC type of undergraduate focus. The Ivies do not offer that experience. They have incredibly strong students and many other positives that are wonderful for the right kind of undergraduate. But I think calling them “Southern Ivies” is to imply qualities of all sorts that simply are not true for these schools. They are who they are, and I think that is plenty good enough. But we do love labels, don’t we.</p>
<p>If I could chime in here, having gone to UF undergraduate and to grad school at Harvard. First, fallenchemist is correct in that it is a stretch to compare the so-called public ivies, with their large freshmen/undergraduate classes, to the much smaller Ivy League schools. Second, regarding Tulanes focus on the undergraduate experience, this is a major plus. At alumni events and among Harvard detractors, I quite frequently hear the lament that Harvard doesnt care about its undergraduates; grad students come first. Having a graduate degree from there, I can say there is some merit to this observation.</p>
<p>Chemist, I knew you wanted me! </p>
<p>I have posted before that I believe there are as good or better colleges that don’t play their sports in the ivy league than some that do. Stanford, MIT, Duke, GEORGETOWN! for example, are just as good or better than lower-tier Ivies like Penn and Cornell. Not only that, a lot of people choose to go to non-ivies despite acceptance due to wanting a different college experience. Harvard may have an 80% yield but Penn and Cornell don’t. I think people make too much of the Ivy League. Refering to every good college as the “Ivy of the . . . (fill in the blank)” is giving too much credit to the colleges that compete in that particular sports league. Stanford is not an Ivy of the west, it is a great college on it’s own merit. </p>
<p>Chemist, Tulane is a good school. I don’t dislike the school. The reason I comment on it is because I think it’s grads try to make it more than it is. They think it has the cachet of Yale or Stanford. It’s one thing to choose a non-ivy over an Ivy - that takes some independent thought. What bothers me is the people who try to build up a non-ivy league school into one. It’s basically acknowledging that you want to have an Ivy degree but couldn’t measure up. Like all the Tufts grads going around with the smugness of a Harvard grad when everyone knows that tufts is for Ivy rejects. Tulane grads are similar but it is on an even lower prestige level. There is nothing wrong with attending a good to very good college but stop with the arrogance an pretensions. If you went to college for bragging rights, you shouldn’t have gone to Tulane.</p>
<p>Just to illustrate my point: University of Richmond is a very good school. It has similar acceptance statistics as Tulane and a comparable academic reputation. You don’t see people saying they went to richmond and looking to see awe in the eyes of the person hearing it. It is a school that is comfortable being what it is and not pretending to be the Ivy of the south. I respect that.</p>
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Wow, that certainly assumes facts not in evidence. I will ignore the ad hominem last statement, it is so childish. Tulane grads? All of them? Most of them? 23.75% of them? What a statement. I rarely see grads trying to make it “more than it is”. I am not even sure how you do that, but I have never heard a Tulane grad say “Oh, and it is just as good as Harvard”, whatever that would even mean. I don’t think very many Tulane grads are so “deluded” that they think it has the same reputation as Yale or Stanford. This is all just so much nonsense, you are making wild assumptions about what people think; either that or you are picking on a very small number of outliers rather than the vast majority. Of course many, and probably most Tulane grads are proud of their school and want to think the best of it. Not sure why that is a problem for you.</p>
<p>The real issue is the way you present your opinions and how unsupportable they are. Not only are you rude and condescending, but your statements rarely jive with reality. You infer meaning to people’s comments that there is no evidence for, such as the Wake Forest/Jewish question. That was completely out there, you just put words in their mouth, so to speak. And the way you presented your comments about Tulane certainly did made it seem like you had nothing but hatred for the school. Your comment, taking out all the bile, was that Tulane was “overrated”. Overrated by who? Based on what? Eh, I am done with you, since you lie, contradict yourself, and do not know how to talk to people in a civilized manner.</p>
<p>I am not the one who called it a southern Ivy or said that the SAT scores were the same as USC. Not wild assumptions, I read those here. I also know a few grads. </p>
<p>Overrated by whom? The Tulane grads!</p>
<p>Did you send a pic?</p>
<p>Sorry, I can’t resist. USC? I said they were the same for all but math, and the person involved in that thread was pursuing a non-math oriented degree. That is a true statement. So once agian you are a liar. A few grads? Thanks for proving my point. And southern ivy was a Wiki quote, as was also clearly stated. I will gladly let my posts stand against yours. More than a few people have pointed out what a flamer you are.</p>
<p>I’m going to chime in here, despite my hesitation. Right after Hurricane Katrina I was speaking with a relative of mine who was in his mid to late 80’s at the time. He lived several states away from Louisiana and I had evacuated to his house from my house in uptown New Orleans. I was expressing my concern for Tulane and New Orleans’ future after half of Tulane’s campus was under water and with all the mess going on in the city. The first words out of his mouth were about the history of the school and the city. That history, he said, would see both through that mess just fine. </p>
<p>Back when wealthy Southern WASPs refused to send their sons up North for an education, they would send their sons to Tulane.<br>
Why Tulane? </p>
<p>Tulane’s History:</p>
<p>Tulane University is older than Rice, Emory, Vanderbilt, Duke, the US Naval Academy, Cornell, Stanford, Wash U, Northwestern, U Chicago, UC Berkley, USC, Notre Dame, Villanova, Ga Tech, and is only 15 years younger than UVA.</p>
<p>Individual Disciplines:</p>
<p>2nd Oldest Business School in the South (older than UVA’s Darden and all others but younger than UGA’s Terry by 2 years), 1st School of Public Health in the United States, 12th oldest Law School in the US, 12th oldest degree granting school in Architecture, and 15th oldest Medical School in the United States. </p>
<p>Interestingly, what was the only school up North they might send their kids to? Princeton. The Princeton men taught the southerners how to play football, which is why there are so many schools in the south with the “Tigers” as their mascot. It’s homage to the Princeton Tigers. </p>
<p>If Tulane is ever referred to as “Harvard of the South” it is probably due to its history in this country. As a Tulane Alumnus from the South, my Alma Mater may be overrated by some, but we just call it school spirit.</p>
<p>I can respect that benetode. Actually Rutgers is one of the oldest colleges in america (a little known fact it seems). But the overzealous posters like chemist make you guys easy to dislike. </p>
<p>I understand that some women pursue men by testing them. I don’t blame chemist for her facination with me but I know that women who fall in love fast are also usually fickle. Once she sends the pic I’ll decide whether to take my chances.</p>
<p>Completely childish.</p>
<p>I have 3 siblings who wen’t to Tulane and two of them regarded the B school as being a joke. My sister who took a lot of science classes said the business students were, simply put, not bright. Why am I saying this? I’m not sure, but I think you guys are making more of this matter than you should be. After all, Tulane is just a southern school for Jewish kids from the northeast, and everyone knows that. And college life sucks there: crap football team, huge drinking and drug scene, and lack of diversity. I’m also disappointed that Tulane didn’t give me any money after all of my siblings attended, and my brother is now attending med school there. Yeah, I wasn’t as qualified as the other kids in my family but still… They could have given me some sort of scholarship money.</p>