Does UCSD and UCSB still use a point system for admissions

<p>In the past we have had a few discussions about the point system in the UC system. Was this system used for the 2006-2007 season. </p>

<p>Here was one version:</p>

<p>GPA x 1000
(New SAT + SATII + SATII) x 0.8
33-39 A-G courses is worth 250pts
40 A-G courses is worth 500pts
ELC worth 300pts
Educational Environment worth 300pts
Parental Income < $60k worth 150pts
under federal TRIO low-income cutoff worth 300pts
Parents: Some college = 150 HS or less = 300
Leadership: 150pts for 2 minor roles, 300pts for a major role (President or VP of class, editor-in-chief, eagle scout, girl scout gold award)
Special talents, achievements, awards : 150 single, 300 multiple
Comm. Server <200 is 150pts, >200 is 300
AVID, EAOP given some points
Single Parent household = 250pts
working 20hrs+ week = 250pts
Life altering event = 500pts
Less severe event = 250pts</p>

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<p>Wow, I've not followed these threads in the past. There doesn't seem to be that much room for traditional grades and academic excellence to show through. Seems like the emphasis is more on social engineering...or does it all work out in the end when one does the actual math?</p>

<p>I know UCSD uses a point system similar to the one you posted, but I haven't heard of Santa Barbara using such a system. But they may.</p>

<p>I believe it does work in the end, reasonabledad. My son and all of his friends, most of whom have received NO points for any of the "social engineering" catagories, have been accepted, many with honors, at one or both campuses. The points awarded for grades and scores alone are enough to admit large numbers of students - probably the majority, although I don't have those stats. I do know that both our public and private high schools in our upper income neighborhood send large numbers of students to the UCs.</p>

<p>The UCSD Comprehensive Review Admission Process
Freshman Selection - Fall 2006</p>

<p>Evaluation</p>

<p>UCSD’s goal in the admission evaluation process is to identify and admit students who are fully prepared to excel in the University’s challenging academic environment. UCSD seeks to admit and enroll a student body that demonstrates strong academic achievement and exceptional personal talent – students who represent the broad diversity of talents, abilities, personal experience and backgrounds characteristic of the State of California.</p>

<p>The Admissions Application, including the Personal Statement, is fully reviewed by at least two individual readers. Consideration will be given for the specific factors, both academic and personal, used in the UCSD Comprehensive Review process. Admission is offered to applicants on the basis of their total Comprehensive Review score.</p>

<p>Academic achievement constitutes approximately 75% of the overall comprehensive review score. The review also recognizes talent and creativity that may not be measured by academic achievement, but which demonstrate a student’s ability to excel at UCSD and to contribute significantly to society following graduation. However, applicants with exceptional personal achievements and/or life challenges, but who do not demonstrate strong academic accomplishments, may not meet UCSD’s selection criteria.</p>

<p>Each of the following factors listed below will be given careful attention and awarded a numerical score:</p>

<p>Uncapped Grade Point Average (GPA)
The most important criterion considered is the uncapped GPA, including a maximum of eight (8) UC-approved Honors, Advanced Placement (AP), International Baccalaureate (IB), or UC transferable college courses based upon the applicant’s self-reported academic history.</p>

<p>Scores of All Required Exams
For freshmen applying for fall 2006 and beyond: Scores from the new version of the SAT Reasoning Test with critical reading, mathematics and writing scores from the same sitting. Students must take the new SAT; the former two-part test (with verbal and mathematics scores only) will not be accepted.</p>

<p>-or-</p>

<p>The ACT Assessment plus the new ACT Writing Test. All scores must be from the same sitting. </p>

<p>Two SAT Subject Tests in two different subject areas*</p>

<pre><code>* History/Social Science
* Literature
* Mathematics (Level 2 only)
* Science
* Language other than English.
</code></pre>

<p>*May not be Writing or Math 1C</p>

<p>All tests must be taken by December of the senior year. </p>

<p>Number of "A-G" Courses Beyond the Minimum
Applicants who have self-reported completion and/or enrollment in “A-G” courses beyond the minimum required for University of California eligibility.</p>

<p>Eligibility in the Local Context (ELC)
Applicants whose transcripts are reviewed by the UC Office of the President and who have been designated eligible through the ELC program. These applicants are in the top 4% of their respective high school graduating class.</p>

<p>Educational Environment
A disadvantaged educational/school environment indicates that the applicant attends a California high school that is among the 4th or 5th quintile of all California public high schools using the following academic indicators: high school completion rate, percentage of students enrolled in college preparation classes, percentage of students enrolled in Advanced Placement/Honors courses, percentage of students admitted to the UC/CSU, and the percentage of students taking the Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) or the American College Test (ACT).</p>

<p>Low Family Income
Consideration will be given for applicants based upon family size and low income.</p>

<p>First-Generation College Attendance
Applicants for whom neither parent is a college graduate (2 year or 4 year).</p>

<p>Demonstrated Leadership
Extensive or recognized leadership roles in school and/or community organizations/activities.</p>

<p>Special Talents/Achievements/Awards
Noteworthy accomplishments in a public venue in visual and performing arts, communications, athletic endeavors, as well as demonstrated written or oral proficiency in a language other than the student’s native language.</p>

<p>Community and Volunteer Service
Demonstrated and substantial involvement in charitable work or community service.</p>

<p>Sustained Participation in Academic Development Preparation Programs
Consideration will be given for active and sustained participation in programs designed to improve academic achievement and access to educational opportunities. The criterion will be measured by time and depth of participation, and by the academic merit of the program. Such programs include EAOP, MESA, Puente, Upward Bound, AVID, and many more.</p>

<p>Special Circumstances/Personal Challenges
Circumstances which may be a positive or negative force in an applicant’s life, and the applicant’s response to unusual challenges, will be considered. These circumstances may include, but are not limited to, personal or family situation, the student’s need to work full-time, disability (physical or learning), veteran status, single parent household, personal growth, or life-altering event(s).</p>

<p>Selection</p>

<p>UCSD is a very selective campus, with a growing national reputation for excellence. The campus continues to receive far more applications from eligible students than it can accommodate. Thus, applicants must exceed the minimum UC eligibility criteria. UCSD received approximately 40,000 freshman applications for Fall 2005. Approximately 40% of these applicants were offered admission. Enrollment goals are established annually. The campus does not select students on the basis of academic major or choice of UCSD undergraduate college.</p>

<p>While a combination of factors is considered in the Comprehensive Review of freshman applicants, academic achievement factors constitute approximately 75% of the Comprehensive Review score. Applicants with the strongest combination of academic, personal characteristics and achievement factors will be admitted in sufficient numbers to meet the campus enrollment goals. UCSD assigns a numeric weight to each of its factors. Thus, students with high test scores, high Grade Point Averages, and strong personal achievement factors are more likely to gain admission. Those with strong test scores and lower GPAs may not meet the quantitative admission ranking in any given year. Similarly, those with high GPAs and lower test scores may also fall below the range of those admitted, even with strong personal achievement factors.</p>

<p>Selection Process</p>

<p>Drawing upon the broad guidelines set forth by the Board of Admissions & Relations with Schools (BOARS), the UCSD Faculty Committee on Undergraduate Admissions has approved the following procedures for freshman selection which are implemented by the Office of Admissions and Relations with Schools.
Step I - Academic Review Maximum Consideration
Uncapped Grade Point Average (GPA) 4,500
Scores of All Required Exams 3,200
Number of "A-G" Courses Beyond the Minimum 500</p>

<p>Step II - Additional Academic Factors<br>
Eligibility in the Local Context (ELC) 300
Educational Environment 300</p>

<p>Step III - Socioeconomic Factors<br>
Low Family Income 300
First Generation College Attendance 300</p>

<p>Step IV – Personal Characteristics and Achievement Factors<br>
Demonstrated Leadership 300
Special Talents/Achievements/Awards 300
Community and Volunteer Service 300
Participation in Academic Development Preparation Programs 300
Special Circumstances/Personal Challenges 500</p>

<p>Step V – Computing a Comprehensive Review Score
Eligible applicants will be assigned a comprehensive review score by totaling the scores from each category listed in steps 1 through 4. Eligible applicants are then ranked based upon that assigned score. Applicants with the strongest combination of academic, personal characteristics and achievement factors will be admitted in sufficient numbers to meet campus enrollment goals.</p>

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Can I Appeal?
Can I appeal my rejection from UCSD?
3.4 uw gpa / 3.6 uc gpa
SAT I: Verbal 770 Math 700 Writing 670
SAT IIs: U.S. History 800 Molecular Biology 720
Above Average ECs
Essays: Hell if I know</p>

<p>Feed me back!

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So I called up the admissions office and they said that I had 7,242 points out of a required 7,421. Thats 179 points short.

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<p>It's not perfect, and no doubt many good students don't get into their first choice of campuses. They will get into one of them, however, if they have the grades/test scores.</p>

<p>179 points short.... the line has to be drawn somewhere. It may seem artificial, but all admissions are somewhat arbitrary any way you slice it.
3.6 uc gpa is below their average for admitted students, I believe.</p>

<p>Oops, I forgot to thank Carolyn for providing the links to the most recent information on this issue. </p>

<p>ASAP, I am also trying to ascertain the correct context of the story discussed in this thread: </p>

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<p>Xiggi ~ I understand there is a rebuttal argument from the original author on NRO.</p>

<p>xiggi:</p>

<p>As recently as two years ago, Santa Barbara ranked applicants by HS, and the applicants were compared against their peers. But, I do not know if their version of comp review still includes that first cut.</p>