<p>Is it just me, or has anyone else heard that a lot of colleges aren't going to be considering the writing portion of the new SAT? I have heard rumors of that, and i just wondering if anyone else had heard anything</p>
<p>I've heard the same thing from GC's, college consulers, and admissions people at colleges. They said it just goes into their computer till they can figure out what it means.</p>
<p>So, will this affect admissions to Ivy's? Or will the Ivy's decide to overlook the scores for this portion? And for how long?</p>
<p>you better believe the UC's will, since they pushed for the change. Others may, particularly if they previously required SATII Writing.</p>
<p>If you're not sure I'd say ask the person doing the info session if you visit/contact them somehow and ask how they're going to be handling it. For example I know that Lehigh and Lafayette (I know not Ivy's) aren't going to consider the writing section as part of the SAT or as the equivilant of the SATII writing.</p>
<p>Not that I do not believe you stretch, but why wouldn't the writing be considered the equivalent of the Writing SAT II?</p>
<p>I assume that colleges will gave it the same amount of importance as they did before the new SAT, and possibly with those who formerly did not require it will now take it into account.</p>
<p>I sure hope they do, because I got a 790 on it.</p>
<p>I would be crushed. Me (supposed to be a math person according to almost all my friends) got writing as my highest score every single time I've taken the SAT (1) and PSAT (2).</p>
<p>yeah, if the school used to demand an SATII writing, it can probly go without saying that they will look at all of the new SAT. And possibly vice versa.</p>
<p>Same here zoogies. Well with SATII writing and old SAT</p>
<p>I 'm on the opposite end. I did well on reading and math, but writing was by far my lowest. So, I was pretty excited to hear this.</p>
<p>why not contact ivy by phone and ask for their desicion on this matter. this will help u a lot.</p>
<p>Typop's advice is probably best...call the school's you're interested in and ask them.</p>
<p>Most of the college reps I've spoken to, and most of the high school college counselors I've talked to, say that schools will NOT be considering the Writing section for at least a year or two. BUT this will definitely vary from school to school.</p>
<p>Even though you and I know that the new SAT Writing section is virtually identical to the old SAT II Writing test, schools are wary of the change. There are no identical tests to compare. Even the College Board says that you can't relate SAT II Writing and SAT I Writing scores.</p>
<p>Here's what the CB's website says on the question in a FAQ:
Will colleges see my essay? How will they use the new writing score?
A college will be able to view and print a copy of your essay only if you send that college your test scores.
Different colleges will use your writing score in different ways. Writing scores may be used for admissions decisions and possibly for placement in English Composition or related courses. However, for the first few years, some schools may choose to use writing scores for research purposes only, and not for decisions about admissions or placement.</p>
<p>OK, now that I've said all that, I'll also add this...a good writing score can only help you. Just from a psychological perspective, if admissions staffs see a high score, it will register with them. For most schools, a great Writing score probably won't do as much as it will three years from now, but it can't hurt. But, the Math and CR scores will be your bread and butter scores.</p>
<p>Pete:</p>
<p>I concur....outside of the UC's, many colleges will look at the score and say 'huh?' But, that being said, a 750 will look great, no matte what they think.</p>
<p>so..will they be looking at our new sat's with verbal and math only like they did before? Because my math and verbal are okay whereas my writing sucks so if you look at it all together...my score is really not all that impressive. But out of a 1600 system, it's pretty good</p>
<p>munkeegirl, I'd say you're probably in good shape with high CR and Math. If there's ever a time that low Writing scores aren't that important, it's now...</p>
<p>But definitely check with the schools you're applying to before you decide to sit on a low Writing score.</p>
<p>Can you please post proof of this? I really do not believe you.</p>
<p>This really depends on the college. Say for University of Michigan, you are probably right PeteSAT, because they did not previously require the writing SAT II, so the admissions counselors will not be so used to seeing them, although they probably have seen them before, from students who voluntarily submitted them.</p>
<p>On the other hand, a school that previously required the writing exam would hardly stop looking at the score. The school obviously believed that the exam tested a certain ability key to success in college. Therefore, whatever minute changes in the exam would be greatly overshadowed by the need to gauge the students' writing ability.</p>
<p>Schools may have given more weight previously to the math and verbal portions of the test, but they still required the exam, and took it into consideration.
Please post proof, because I find your claim ludicrous (for the colleges that previously required the exam).</p>
<p>I don't have any hardcore written proof. If I had proof, I would have mentioned it. I have, however, talked to some college admissions staff, several high school counselors (who deal directly with lots of college admissions staff) and lots of parents who have spoken in depth with lot of college admission staff...and the tune is almost always the same...most schools are going to wait a year or two before considering the Writing section...</p>
<p>But OF COURSE it depends on the school. That's why I always suggest that everyone checks with the schools they're applying to...</p>
<p>The UC system, for example, will almost assuredly use the Writing scores...but even they haven't completely decided how (For instance, they will use the Writing score as one measure in gauging proficiency in writing to meet admissions requirements, but they won't post the required score until early 2006...you can meet the requirement in other ways, too, such as scoring a 3 or higher on the English AP.)</p>
<p>I think the point is that the Writing section IS different from the old SAT II Writing (though not by much) and schools won't know exactly how to interpret scores. Colleges and Universities are cautious...even if they think that the Writing scores are a good measure of college success, they may want a year or two of comparisons before they start weighing the scores as highly as they eventually will.</p>
<p>And ashermn, you don't have to believe me. Its a relatively free country :) If you find out anything different, I would love to know, as would everyone here. I'm only basing this on the information I have...</p>
<p>one thing I haven't figured out yet. Do we still have to do the writing test in SAT2?</p>
<p>No, there is no longer an SAT II Writing test...</p>
<p>Then if I take Maths and Physics in the SAT2, what should I take as the 3rd paper? Isn't it compulsory to do an English paper?</p>
<p>jehangircama, that really depends on the school. Remember, some schools don't require any SAT IIs, some require 2, a few require 3. The tests each school requires are different, but usually they just want you to take a variety. I've seen no schools that <em>require</em> the only English based SAT II, the Literature test.</p>
<p>For a third test, I'd recommend something other than math and science, just to show variety: Literature or History (Us or World) or a language.</p>
<p>Check with the schools you're thinking of applying to...they all post requirements on their websites, or would be happy to tell you requirements on the phone.</p>