Does Yale hate former applicants?

Transfer Students
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<p>Damn, reading this was discouraging. Has anyone else read/heard anything to confirm or undermine this?</p>

<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/18839?badlink=1%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/18839?badlink=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>"Eli transfer students questioned whether the trend applies to Yale, where administrators try to avoid accepting transfers who were previously rejected."</p>

<p>"Yale College Dean of Admissions Jeffrey Brenzel said Yale’s policy does not encourage students who were previously rejected to reapply for admission. He said limited housing availability in the residential colleges is one of the main reasons why Yale’s acceptance rate for transfer students is one of the lowest in the Ivy League."</p>

<p>"Alexandra Charrow ’07, who transferred to Yale from the University of Maryland after her freshman year, said it is rare for Yale to accept transfer applicants who have already applied. She said Yale’s transfer students largely come from other Ivy League universities, community colleges, and Deep Springs, a selective two-year college."</p>

<p>On the bright side, this might make me pessimistic so that I don't (a.) become too upset when the thin envelope arrives (b.) fritter away too much of my time daydreaming.</p>

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<p>Wow, I'm not applying to Yale, but I think that is really unfair. They need to judge each person by their current achievements, and future potential, not judge them by their past.</p>

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<p>I think thats totally fair. If they dont like you the first time, what makes you think they will like you again? LOL. First impressions are everything.</p>

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<p>Ah, ok so I see improvement is not considered at all by either you or Yale?</p>

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<p>Determinate Law: but you do have former rejected applicants who were accepted as transfer students. Don't worry :)</p>

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<p>PierreMarie, good to know. However, it's obviously a matter of degree. The YDN article acknowledges that some applicants get in, it is nonetheless discouraging that they say it's rare.</p>

<p>My only hope is that the slant of the article is skewed. I know reporters sometimes approach their writing with an angle that doesn't necessarily pan out, and it looks like Chow couldn't really back up her points with any explicit quotes.</p>

<p>For example:</p>

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<li>"Eli transfer students questioned whether the trend applies to Yale, where administrators try to avoid accepting transfers who were previously rejected."</li>
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<p>Which administrators? She doesn't really quote any.</p>

<ol>
<li>"Yale College Dean of Admissions Jeffrey Brenzel said Yale’s policy does not encourage students who were previously rejected to reapply for admission. He said limited housing availability in the residential colleges is one of the main reasons why Yale’s acceptance rate for transfer students is one of the lowest in the Ivy League."</li>
</ol>

<p>Again, no direct quote. Limited housing availability makes transferring hard for EVERYONE, not just those who were previously rejected, so I'm left in the dark about what he really said or what his arguments really were.</p>

<p>So this is the one that worries me:
3. "Alexandra Charrow ’07, who transferred to Yale from the University of Maryland after her freshman year, said it is rare for Yale to accept transfer applicants who have already applied. She said Yale’s transfer students largely come from other Ivy League universities, community colleges, and Deep Springs, a selective two-year college."</p>

<p>If she is talking about the transfer class and saying that a tiny proportion of that class is comprised of previously rejected applicants, then I'm unambiguously screwed. If she is saying that most people who were previously rejected get rejected again, then that isn't newsworthy or insightful. The most reasonable interpretation seems to be the former, unfortunately.</p>

<p>donjuan78, no, I don't think it's at all fair for Yale to approach your application with an antecedent bias just because you couldn't make the cut in your senior year. This is presumably the case for most transfer applicants. And if Yale is more reluctant to admit previously rejected students, they should have advertised that fact on their website.</p>

<p>What disturbed me about the article was the paternalistic notion that, by accepting discontented transfers, good colleges are encouraging students not to stay rooted or invested in their current schools (in all fairness the article took this suggestion from someone unaffiliated with Yale). Undergraduates aren't the property or domain of the first school they attend. So I think Yale should admit the most qualified candidates with something to contribute to the life of their institution. I have a hard time believing that previously rejected applicants automatically fall outside of that category in almost every instance.</p>

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<p>.. but i have always been under the impression that yale prides itself on giving a chance to transfers who previously would not have even been able to apply to yale, like cc students etc.</p>

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<p>I bet thats because Yale only wants the smartest people in the world to go to their school. And GENERALLY, someone who didnt get in out of highschool and than did AMAZING in college wasnt working to their full potential in highschool. Yale assumes that the smartest people in the world have been working to their potential for their entire lives, not just when it counts.</p>

<p>I have no affliations with Yale, I've never even been there its just my opinion. Take it with a grain of salt.</p>

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<p>I agree with you, Defrasne. That's been my impression of the Yale transfer admissions process.</p>

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<p>I always heard that Yale likes those who would never have had a chance in HS. You know the whole "come into your own during college" thing. I think thats great actually, as it gives people who say went to awful public schools a shot etc. It's good they give people a second chance. Look up the CC user frrip who transferred into Yale as an international HS dropout.</p>

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<p>I always though Yale was impossible for most transfers since of the astronomical costs and the minute number of full rides. On the bright side, it's an possibility for graduate school.</p>

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<p>Surely you jest?</p>