don't kill me--chances?

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Notre Dame
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<p>hi everyone...just wondering what you think my chances are RD. i can't wait any longer haha. any comments welcome :-)</p>

<p>SAT: 2190
690 CR 720 M 780 W
but i don't think ND looks at writing
SAT II: USH 730 Math1 700 Bio 640</p>

<p>taken 10 AP's by the end of sr year
so far, 2 4's and 2 5's on exams</p>

<p>Class rank: 13/247 (top 5%)
GPA: 4.0 UW</p>

<p>extracurrics (i think very strong):
Student council vice president
Intern for Congressman
president of numerous volunteer service clubs in school
editor of school newspaper
founded town youth council
town community service program, volunteer of the year and advisory board member for four years
other town youth consortiums/councils
PTSA student rep
tons of volunteering awards</p>

<p>letters of rec should be AWESOME</p>

<p>No legacy. White female from NY.
What's the verdict?</p>

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<p>Why would we kill you?</p>

<p>Sats
- you are correct when you state that Nd doesnt look at writing ( that must be depressing in your situation)
- ummm your 1410 is the exact score that my nd guy said was the average (there has been discression on this board on what the avg really is)
-so overall you are good there</p>

<p>GPA
- wow.. impressive</p>

<p>E.C.'s
- lots of leadership = baller</p>

<p>you look like a solid candidate....... essay is important</p>

<p>good luck</p>

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<p>thanks chillin!
yeah i know my 1410 is average, which is why i decided to take it again in january, which ND will accept! i'm so excited i feel like i have a second chance...say a little prayer :)</p>

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<p>Looks good to me my daughter got in EA with a 1460</p>

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<p>haha page..... Don't look down upon your 1410 thats an amazing score....... but yes unfortunatly it is avg for ND....</p>

<p>Im taking it in Jan too!
o well... we shall converse after...</p>

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<p>dudes and gals why are u insisting that 1410 is an average sat, to me it pretty decent. I no many EA admittants score in the mid 1300s and got accepted. ND looks for more than sat scores, i would say essay is more important. Otherwise i wouldnt have make it EA, my sat score was probably the lowest in the EA accepted pool. lol</p>

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<p>haha well even though i do value my 1410, i feel like even if my SAT score only goes up a bit maybe it will be worth it? lately i just realize i want to go to ND more than anything, so at least i feel like i'm doing something you know? and studying takes my mind off thinking about how far away april is lol</p>

<p>chillin-good luck!! hopefully we will blow them away...</p>

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<p>ohhh bqew......</p>

<p>I am no where near a 1410... it is way way way way above average for my standards... but unfortunatly it is avg for ND</p>

<p>Page.... I just noticed that we only have like 3 weeks till the test</p>

<p>im freshing up on the vocab and the geometry a bit... u?</p>

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<p>Notre Dame doesn't require the writing portion of the SAT to be taken, but if you send it to them, they'll certainly see it. I bet it helps...</p>

<p>Chillin, my friend, you are nowhere near a 1410, but you are in January of your JUNIOR year! You have oodles and oodles of time to get yourself in the thinking caps of the SAT-writing sadists and master their strange sense of logic... DON'T WORRY!!!!!</p>

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<p>I know DD.. I know</p>

<p>But I dont want to look back in 12 months and scold myself for the work that I should have done</p>

<p>If that small notice in the mail arrives... I want to tell myself that I did everything EVERYTHING in my power to succeed, but fell a little short</p>

<p>But I'll fight till that day... whether that be long nights of studying or hours of practice on the baseball field.......I'll do everything in my power</p>

<p>but I do have time.... which is good...lol</p>

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<p>that is exactly why i am retaking the SAT, chillin, because i want to feel like i have done everything in my power. and besides, I heard that while the average SAT is a 1410, it is actually much higher than that if you take out recruited athletes/some legacies. what do you guys think about that?</p>

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<p>oh ya... irish said that if upi take out the special cases (athletes, legacy, minority) its like 15 hundo and some change</p>

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<p>then i guess my 1380 isnt going to cut it :(</p>

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<p>I agree that you should maximize what you can as far as scores go...within limits. If you spend so much time trying to accumulate a resume that you don't have time to enjoy your high school life, you will have cheated yourself out of part of your life. My daughter's score was within the mid-50% range. I imagine she could have really borne down and studied and pushed it to the upper part of the range, but to do so would have really added stress to a life already busy with college level courses, varsity athletics, school leadership offices and...yes, indeed, a social life and a strong network of friendships, as well as some time spent reading fluff magazines and watching chick flicks. To her credit, her attitude was that if she were in range, if the university wasn't willing to look at the entirety of the person she is, it was their problem. Quite frankly, I think it was that kind of attitude that helped her get accepted early action.</p>

<p>My own opinion, page, based on my observations as an alumna with a son in his second year at ND and a daughter who will enroll there in the fall, is that ND pays a lot more attention to the whole person, the character that tests and GPA's cannot quantify, than a lot of people on this board seem to believe. I've seen it on these boards, I've seen it in the kind of people they accept. </p>

<p>Some highly competitive universities are known for trying to create mini-societies, handpicked by demographics of income, race, geography and special interest. Notre Dame really focuses on the person inside, beyond the statistics. In either case, statistics get way too much weight from folks on the board than they really warrant. Statistics answer the question--can they handle the workload and be successful here? Once that is established, the decision is made on the basis of far more than that... I believe that is the case at any highly competitive university. </p>

<p>Just remember, if all you do is put your nose to the grindstone in order to reach the next milestone--be it admission to a university, a graduate program, a career track--just when exactly does that moment come when the benefits accrue? And can it possibly make up for the amount of time and life lost obsessing on getting there? </p>

<p>It's one thing to be driven by goals. It is another thing completely to be enslaved by them. </p>

<p>I'm not saying that any of you are, just that you need to take a step back and make sure that you aren't...</p>

<p>Enjoy your youth--it passes quickly! You'll have plenty of time to fret and worry when you have three kids, a mortgage and a dog...</p>

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<p>Pyar, don't let these boards make you paranoid! If you were to ask a person from admissions about your chances with that score, they would not rule you out. The people posting on these boards are well-intentioned fellow high school students, current ND students, and parents...they aren't admissions people. </p>

<p>No matter how much you handicap your chances based on what you read on these boards, the decision is going to be made by an admissions committee--none of whom are posting here. Any one who sends in an app, regardless of the excellence of its contents, takes a chance that he or she will be rejected. You all know that. Your apps are in, the deed is done, the decision will be made. No amount of guessing your Vegas odds of admissions is going to "brace" you for the disappointment if you don't get in. </p>

<p>Thing is, though, I guarantee that not only will you survive whatever the outcome might be; it will, in the long run, turn out to be what is best for the course of your life. Being a control freak, my favorite part of the Serenity Prayer is the part that asks God to "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change." God always does...</p>

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<p>I second DDJones.</p>

<p>We all need to remember sometimes to just step back and have faith that God will send us in the direction that will benefit not only us, but those around us.</p>

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<p>I second DDJones.</p>

<p>We all need to remember sometimes to just step back and have faith that God will send us in the direction that will benefit not only us, but those around us.</p>

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<p>as much as i hate to admit it, i think you are all pretty darn correct. it's funny because i used to agree, and i think i just forgot about my previous philosophy that "everything happens for a reason." if anything, this is the time to relax a bit because all there really is is waiting. thanks for the advice; it has been taken to heart.</p>

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<p>p.s. it's scary how dead-on you guys are. i was rereading your posts, and i really am going to try to calm it down a little. i want to enjoy my senior year and remember more than the stressful nights spent doing extra credit homework. thanks again everyone.</p>

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<p>hahah... I hear ya DD I hear ya.....</p>

<p>I agree with all of your statements instead of this one:
"as well as some time spent reading fluff magazines and watching chick flicks"</p>

<p>No thanks dd... I'll pass.... haha</p>

<p>I think you know that I have a life outside of school and sats and such, but after reading my post it does seam a bit odd</p>

<p>I guess the one thing in life that im scarred of/ afraid of is rejection....</p>

<p>I hate to admit it but, so far in my life I really havent been rejected....</p>

<p>In little league I always made the all star team... in pop warner I was the MVP</p>

<p>At school i was the president......</p>

<p>I always made the baseball team/the football team/ NHS.....</p>

<p>Ive already had a taste of school admissions when I applied to my current highschools which is getting more selective and more selective....</p>

<p>I guess rejection scares me, so to avoid that I dont want to look back and say " What if I did this... or what if I did that "
- And i know that rejection is a part of life..... but still "no" is hard for me to take</p>

<p>Stuff like that doesnt fly with me.....</p>

<p>When I put my mind to something... I accomplish it</p>

<p>And sunshadow I totally agree with you on the relegious aspect of it</p>

<p>God has a plan for me way beyond my comprehension
- Lets just hope that ND is part of that plan</p>