<p>I’m sure it’s been said, but I have a hunch that a lot of Ivy admits would have the tact not to wear their new school stuff around their high school. Except Penn: let the Penn State confusion cut our way for once. Heh. In any case, the students who tactlessly broadcast their acceptances are usually the ones you’d want to avoid anyway.</p>
<p>wayward_trojan–why should they? Why shouldn’t they be able to celebrate their success just like everyone else–which is the whole point of this thread?</p>
<p>I would say that those that are having issues with someone getting into an Ivy because they didn’t needs to grow up.</p>
<p>Wearing your Ivy shirt is fine - flaunting your Ivy acceptance is not. One of my daughter’s classmates this year got into Yale early but still applied to all the other Ivies regular (despite his telling people he would only choose Harvard over Yale and that he would not attend any of the others he had applied to). Spent all winter in his Yale t-shirt talking about things like his UPenn SAT scores not getting there in time and his Columbia interview, etc. Then on Ivy acceptance day he dressed head to toe in Yale clothes - knowing full well that others were anxious about getting their acceptances later that day. This is the type of behavior I wish could be prevented.</p>
<p>The thread wasn’t about prohibiting only Ivy /elite sweatshirts. It was about prohibiting all of them for a limited time until the dust settled.</p>
<p>Sorry pizza - guess I was just venting. My daughter’s HS has several spirit days all year - things like blackout day where all the kids wear black. The final one is usually College Day where all the kids where college shirts and the seniors wear shirts for the schools they will be attending. They also decorate their graduation caps with the logos of the college they will be attending.</p>
<p>kiddie–that is not a school issue, that is a kid issue and honestly, your DD will be dealing with people like that for the rest of her life. I am sure every kid in that school is rolling their eyes at that kid. Even so, if he got into Yale, he should be able to wear his sweatshirt just like the kid that got into “directional state U”.</p>
<p>Pizza–the title of the thread is "Don’t make the less fortunate feel bad with your Ivy sweatshirt! How is it not about letting Ivy kids wear their sweatshirts when other’s can?</p>
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<p>At the time, I really feared for her…not because his career goals were statistically unlikely to pan out, but because I thought he would break her heart permanently. It did indeed work out in the end. I read one of his album cover dedications and it was written to her and was an absolutely beautiful tribute. Also, I recognized that some of their song lyrics were written about her.</p>
<p>The policies being discussed were about prohibiting all college sweatshirts til after a certain point. The title of the thread was misleading, as it implied that the Harvard and Yale kids couldn’t wear their shirts but the Ohio State kid could. Go read the beginning of the thread. Posts 1 and 2 spell it out.</p>
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<p>The thread title is not misleading. While the policy does not target only elite school apparel, the stated intent is to protect students who were rejected from elite schools from feeling bad upon seeing their more fortunate classmates sporting clothing from those elite schools. No one seems concerned about SUNY Plattsburgh t-shirts making people upset.</p>
<p>Also, a previous poster informed us that at some NY high schools seniors may be gone after May 1. If so, then this deadline prevents seniors from ever wearing their Ivy et al. shirts to school. In our district, seniors go out and do volunteer work and internships the last few weeks of school and are not in the building, though not until the end of May.</p>
<p>My principal concern with the t-shirt policies is that the policies were put in place to address what I have to believe is the aberrant behavior of a handful of people. </p>
<p>The typical kid accepted into Columbia is not going to go around saying, “In YOUR FACE, Stony Brook!” And the number of kids whose dismay at not getting into their top school rises to a level where one needs to be concerned about their mental health also has to be pretty small. In both those cases, we are talking about the character and mental stability of individuals. Pull those kids out and reprimand or counsel them as need be. </p>
<p>If large numbers of the school population go insane at decision time, as cobrat would have us believe was the case at his school, that’s another story. Maybe then you consider some kind of intervention or long-term campaign to make the culture of the school less toxic. That’s if you care. If administrators at schools where this is a real problem just want to put a bandaid on things, by all means, they should restrict the display of college-related gear.</p>
<p>Wow imagine being a kid at a school who is smart, worked hard but due to financial problems at home, a sick relative, bad parental crest, etc who has to go to a cc for a year or take a gap year, and walking into a sea of college get up, decorate their grad outfits Ith more college bling</p>
<p>No one here has touched on teen suicide. This is a time of year where it bumps up. Kids feel embarrased, that they disappointed people, they are tired of answering questions about college. </p>
<p>If you have to parade around in college bling to show how awesome and proud you are in front of people who may not be so lucky but are no less worthy, the you need to look at the purpose of showing off, which is what it is.</p>
<p>Yu are no less accomplished in your acceptances if you can hold off wearing your college tshirt. It’s sad people are so self involved they don’t see others feel like crap. If a school needs to step in to ease the tension, that’s great.</p>
<p>And ice to all the ivy talk. And ice to oh can’t tell you I went to harvard cause it sound snooty. It is snooty. Suck it up</p>
<p>In our high schools, kids wear their sweat shirts, tee shirts with abandon. No one seems to have any issues with it. In fact, my son collected a shirt from each college he visited and then swapped off shirts with others when he picked his school and picked up a slew of freebies and cheapies from his school of choice. So he is wearing ivy league shirts that he got from classmates accepted to such schools. I don’t see the big deal and neither does he, nor his friends. They’d think this thread is absolutely nuts, as I do.</p>
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<p>Intervention? Not likely when I was there considering most of the parents and many of the teachers/admins supported that hothouse sink or swim environment. </p>
<p>The prevailing notion was that it was one of the few public high schools which didn’t teach to the LCD, encourage an atmosphere of mediocrity, and “discourage high achievement” which existed in many mainstream public and from what I’ve heard/observed in several college classmates and heard from cousins in certain regions of the country…even many private schools. </p>
<p>Then again, my HS’ atmosphere was well-known to those familiar with high schools like the one I attended. Parents who knew and didn’t care for it tended to send their kids to their zoned high schools or more nurturing private prep/boarding/Montessori-type schools. </p>
<p>An uncle whose D was considering my high school made that very decision in light of my experiences with its competitive sink-or-swim culture, her having gone to nurturing Montessori-type schools all her life, and her strong interest in the arts. In short, my high school would have been a horrible fit for her academic interests and personality.</p>
<p>Okay, fine, cobrat. So your high school likes the way things work there. Great. if that’s the case, then it’s all the more reason to cite their hypocrisy for being among the group of schools coming up with lame ways to try to control the way kids announce their decisions.</p>
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<p>Not according to cobrat’s experience - his world is just chock full of people who on an everyday basis “taunt” and “harass” other people. His schoolmates … his untold number of aunts /uncles / cousins … The poor guy can’t get any peace!</p>
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<p>Considering some of those admins I mentioned above are still in the current senior administration…I’m thinking the policies were the product of Bloomberg’s educrats…pressure and/or policy. </p>
<p>Especially considering their Board of Ed predecessors and other politicians have had a long history of pulling similar stunts in the past.</p>
<p>I don’t know what high school Cobrat is referring to. I live within minutes of one of the most competitive public high schools in the country where many kids get into highly selective schools, and there is too much emphasis on "name"schools, but come summer, kids wear their tee shirts, and others’ with abandon. None of my kids, who to socialize and mingle and work with a lot of these kids seem even one tiny bit bothered about this. And my kids do have their issues and complaints. This just isn’t one of them. Many of us, myself included, have run into these creatures who are over obsessed over name recognition and bragging, and yes, it is annoying but it’s not that big of a deal to me in the whole picture.</p>
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<p>That’s true…but a large part of that was because Columbia wasn’t nearly as well-regarded as it is nowadays. The jerky contingent within the top 25%…especially those in the top 10% would have made just as much fun of the Columbia kids as the Stonybrook kids. </p>
<p>They were so ridiculous my group went out of our way to push their buttons at every available opportunity…such as telling them of becoming California Beach Bums when asked about our college plans. </p>
<p>Some of them had much fun with the few jerks who ended up at Harvard while working together with them at a paid summer internship when the Unabomber story broke. On the other hand…we made it a point to be tactful about it with the Harvard admitees who were nice to us.</p>
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Take a moment to consider how your group’s antics might have been viewed by an impartial observer, cobrat. Sounds rather immature and jerky to me. Just sayin’.</p>